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2008-10-02 12:38 PM

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This morning I volunteered at my kids school to take health screenings of height/weight and vision.  I have to say I am shocked by how morbidly obese some of these kids are.  I'm a foot+ taller and 30+ years older then they are and they weight more them me and are only 8 years old.  They are overweight by more then 100lbs at age 8 - what is to come for these children?  where are the parents?  I know 1 child's parents and the father is just as obese as the kid is....  It is so very sad!

One little girl said to me as she saw her wieght "I'm fat"!  I tried to encourage her with an activity each day - run at recess, play outisde after school - move something... but in my 2 minutes with her I probably did nothing more then upset her for the day by her seeing how heavy she was. 

We have a new PE teacher this year - maybe he can help inspire some kids to move more.  But it again comes down to parental responsibility for getting these kids to eat healthy and move more!

 



2008-10-02 12:50 PM
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at least your school has PE.  my cousin just graduated this past may and during her last semester of student teaching she worked with (i think) 4th graders that their school had no gym, no PE, and once a month they bussed the kids to the high school for PE.  it made me so sad to hear that!!

 

but i am shocked to hear that so many kids are THAT much overweight.  it's crazy!

2008-10-02 12:56 PM
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houston-tri-mama - 2008-10-02 1:38 PM

 They are overweight by more then 100lbs at age 8

Wow. Normal weight for an 8-yo would be 50-60 pounds. So these kids would be 150+ at age 8?

I don't think I've ever seen an 8-yo that big in my 5 years as an elementary school parent. That's mind-boggling.

 

2008-10-02 1:00 PM
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I had maybe 40 of the 120+ 3rd graders and of the 40 atleast 6 weighed more then 100 and 2 weighed more then 150 and 1 almost 180lbs.... 

Of the 35 4th graders I had (out of 120+) - I had 2 weighing more then 120 and 1 almost 200lbs...

these are 8 and 9 year olds! 

I'm shocked and dumbfounded about this.

 



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houston-tri-mama - 2008-10-02 2:00 PM

I had maybe 40 of the 120+ 3rd graders and of the 40 atleast 6 weighed more then 100 and 2 weighed more then 150 and 1 almost 180lbs.... 

Of the 35 4th graders I had (out of 120+) - I had 2 weighing more then 120 and 1 almost 200lbs...

these are 8 and 9 year olds! 

I'm shocked and dumbfounded about this.

 

I think most people are. Yet no one seems to be able to agree on what to do about it. At least in the schools, it's about money. Schools don't want to spend the money. Providing healthy food costs money. PE classes "take away" from class time, and good academic performance earns schools money. Effin' ridiculous.

2008-10-02 1:14 PM
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Going to PE for 1/2 an hour every day, or every other day, is not going solve this problem.  This problem starts and ends at home.  This is not to say that I think PE is a bad thing, or that it is a good thing that schools are taking it away, but if one thinks PE will mitigate this problem, they are in fantasyland.


2008-10-02 1:16 PM
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newleaf - 2008-10-02 2:14 PM Going to PE for 1/2 an hour every day, or every other day, is not going solve this problem.  This problem starts and ends at home.  This is not to say that I think PE is a bad thing, or that it is a good thing that schools are taking it away, but if one thinks PE will mitigate this problem, they are in fantasyland.

Not what I said. But the point has been made every time this topic comes up on BT, that in some cases, PE and school lunch is the ONLY exercise and healthy food that some students will get. But I also know that not everyone agrees that the school should be "involved" in such a manner - though I would argue that exercise and good food choices are things that are to be taught and part of a school's job is to teach kids to be healthy intellectually, as well as emotionally and physically. All those things are intertwined.

But what do I know I don't have kids, so I couldn't possibly understand 



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newleaf - 2008-10-02 1:14 PM

Going to PE for 1/2 an hour every day, or every other day, is not going solve this problem.  This problem starts and ends at home.  This is not to say that I think PE is a bad thing, or that it is a good thing that schools are taking it away, but if one thinks PE will mitigate this problem, they are in fantasyland.


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2008-10-02 1:19 PM
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meherczeg - 2008-10-02 10:50 AM

at least your school has PE.  my cousin just graduated this past may and during her last semester of student teaching she worked with (i think) 4th graders that their school had no gym, no PE, and once a month they bussed the kids to the high school for PE.  it made me so sad to hear that!!

 

but i am shocked to hear that so many kids are THAT much overweight.  it's crazy!



It's hard to believe that there are schools with no PE program, actually it is disgracefull.

My son is a freshman at high school and they have PE every day! I am so glad that he gets to do this, although he is active anyway and weighs only 90lbs. My daughter is in 6th grade and she does PE three times a week (swim team practice 5 nights a week).
2008-10-02 1:20 PM
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Parents will blame schools, fast food, video games for their kid being over weight.  But it's the parents responsiblity to see that the kids eat healthy and exercise.  I have son and daughter in elementary school and I am happy to say they do not have a weight problem.  We provide healthy meals at home, make sure they get outside and play (this means we have to take time to walk or bike with them to the park), and we make their lunches for school.  Kids will eat nothing but fast food in front of the TV if the parents let them.  It's our responsibility to be sure they have healthy and active lives.

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lisac957 - 2008-10-02 2:17 PM
newleaf - 2008-10-02 1:14 PM Going to PE for 1/2 an hour every day, or every other day, is not going solve this problem. This problem starts and ends at home. This is not to say that I think PE is a bad thing, or that it is a good thing that schools are taking it away, but if one thinks PE will mitigate this problem, they are in fantasyland.
Something is better than nothing, no?

Of course. But that's the only panacea that has been raised in this thread. And the lack of PE is a very small part of the problem.  The parenting and the lifestyle that the children live, is the root of the problem.



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rayd - 2008-10-02 2:20 PM Parents will blame schools, fast food, video games for their kid being over weight.  But it's the parents responsiblity to see that the kids eat healthy and exercise.  I have son and daughter in elementary school and I am happy to say they do not have a weight problem.  We provide healthy meals at home, make sure they get outside and play (this means we have to take time to walk or bike with them to the park), and we make their lunches for school.  Kids will eat nothing but fast food in front of the TV if the parents let them.  It's our responsibility to be sure they have healthy and active lives.

 

that is awesome!

 

nl - i never assumed PE was a solution to a problem, i was just commenting on it being part of the problem.  if i never learned soccer in gym class, i would have never come home and asked my mom to put me on the soccer team.

2008-10-02 1:38 PM
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newleaf - 2008-10-02 2:14 PM Going to PE for 1/2 an hour every day, or every other day, is not going solve this problem.  This problem starts and ends at home.  This is not to say that I think PE is a bad thing, or that it is a good thing that schools are taking it away, but if one thinks PE will mitigate this problem, they are in fantasyland.

Agreed.  PE is good, but it's not like I had it everyday even when I was little.

I think it's more about what families are eating and what the kids are doing when they are at home.

Also, the idea of these height/weight screenings at elementary schools kinda bother me.  Lots of kids get really upset about them.  And most of them aren't really in a position to do anything about it.  It just makes them feel bad.

2008-10-02 1:52 PM
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This reminds me of a woman I work with. She is raising her grandson and was commenting that he doesn't like to do anything except play video games. She said he doesn't like to ride a bike, or do any sports, or really do ANYTHING. When we asked what he does when she takes the games away, she said she'd never tried taking them away because it wouldn't be fair since it's the only thing he likes. WTF?!? Of course he doesn't "like" anything if he's never had to learn how to entertain himself without the games.
2008-10-02 2:03 PM
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This is a hard one for a parent.  The child(ren) are the parent's responsibility.  But we as parents cannot in this day and age (due to safety reasons) push our kids out the door and say "go play". 

My wife and I were discussing this the other day.  When we were kids, the majority of our time was spent outside with little to no parental supervision.  

Now we seemingly have pedophiles or kidnappers on every street corner.  My kids can go into our back yard or our front yard by themselves.  If they go anywhere else, myself or my wife are right there.  Correction, they do go into my neighbor's house and play with their kids.

I just deleted the other three paragraphs since I started rambling.  It boils down to:

It is the parent's responsibility.  Children need physical activity everyday.  Turn off the TV/computer and go play outside with your children.

2008-10-02 2:04 PM
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It's not just the non-activity of these kids, but the diet they are fed at home.  Even with no activity, if they were eating healthy, they would not have this "big" of a problem. 

Just cause there is no PE at school, these kids could be running around outside when they get home.  We did not go home and watch TV or play video games all afternoon.  And Wii fit is not the answer.  It's just another video game.



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Unfortunately, unhealthy food tends to be less expensive than healthy food, and obesity tends to be a greater problem in lower-income areas. And, yes, blame the parents (it is, mostly, their fault), but don't let kids suffer because their parents don't care, don't have the resources, or don't have the know how. Healthy lunches and PE are very important in schools, IMO. A total solution? No. A start for some/many children? Yes.
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LaurenSU02 - 2008-10-02 3:04 PM Unfortunately, unhealthy food tends to be less expensive than healthy food 

I hear this all the time and I've been thinking about it.  I'm not convinced that it's true.  If you buy a bag of beans and rice, you can make a lot of pretty healthy meals for not a lot of money.  But that requires actually cooking.  If you want the convenience of not cooking, yes, it is usually cheaper to have unhealthy food.

2008-10-02 2:11 PM
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KenD - 2008-10-02 3:03 PM

Now we seemingly have pedophiles or kidnappers on every street corner.  My kids can go into our back yard or our front yard by themselves.  If they go anywhere else, myself or my wife are right there.  Correction, they do go into my neighbor's house and play with their kids.

I'm only 27. I didn't grow up in the inner city, but I also didn't grow up in a super-small town. I wouldn't say that my parents were bad parents and they were very protective of us. That being said, we used the spend the entire summer running around the development (a large one with many wooded sections) with the other neighborhood kids. We just had to tell our parents where we were going, and they told us when we needed to be back, and we'd usually go to some kid's house for lunch or whatever. What really changed? Were there less pedophiles in 1989? It wasn't THAT long ago. It's easy enough to go to a neighborhood where kids are playing - you don't need the internet to do that. If anything kids are MORE vulnerable to predators online than they are just running around outside.

2008-10-02 2:15 PM
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Now we seemingly have pedophiles or kidnappers on every street corner.  My kids can go into our back yard or our front yard by themselves.  If they go anywhere else, myself or my wife are right there.  Correction, they do go into my neighbor's house and play with their kids.

I'm only 27. I didn't grow up in the inner city, but I also didn't grow up in a super-small town. I wouldn't say that my parents were bad parents and they were very protective of us. That being said, we used the spend the entire summer running around the development (a large one with many wooded sections) with the other neighborhood kids. We just had to tell our parents where we were going, and they told us when we needed to be back, and we'd usually go to some kid's house for lunch or whatever. What really changed? Were there less pedophiles in 1989? It wasn't THAT long ago. It's easy enough to go to a neighborhood where kids are playing - you don't need the internet to do that. If anything kids are MORE vulnerable to predators online than they are just running around outside.

My children are 6, 7, & 8 yrs old.  We live in a family friendly neighborhood three houses down from the community park.  There have been no reported cases of pedophiles or kidnappers in our area. 

I do not allow them to go to the park by themselves.  Am I over-protective?  Maybe.  But that's the way it is in my house.

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Now we seemingly have pedophiles or kidnappers on every street corner.  My kids can go into our back yard or our front yard by themselves.  If they go anywhere else, myself or my wife are right there.  Correction, they do go into my neighbor's house and play with their kids.

I'm only 27. I didn't grow up in the inner city, but I also didn't grow up in a super-small town. I wouldn't say that my parents were bad parents and they were very protective of us. That being said, we used the spend the entire summer running around the development (a large one with many wooded sections) with the other neighborhood kids. We just had to tell our parents where we were going, and they told us when we needed to be back, and we'd usually go to some kid's house for lunch or whatever. What really changed? Were there less pedophiles in 1989? It wasn't THAT long ago. It's easy enough to go to a neighborhood where kids are playing - you don't need the internet to do that. If anything kids are MORE vulnerable to predators online than they are just running around outside.

My children are 6, 7, & 8 yrs old.  We live in a family friendly neighborhood three houses down from the community park.  There have been no reported cases of pedophiles or kidnappers in our area. 

I do not allow them to go to the park by themselves.  Am I over-protective?  Maybe.  But that's the way it is in my house.

A lot of that has to do with mean-world syndrome projected by the media. There really aren't more attacks...we just become much more aware of them - and much more quickly  - now than previously. Also, in the past, a lot of times kids were considered to be runaways so the possibility of kidnapping was looked into less frequently by authorities. At least that's how understand it. I could be wrong.



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LaurenSU02 - 2008-10-02 3:23 PM
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Now we seemingly have pedophiles or kidnappers on every street corner. My kids can go into our back yard or our front yard by themselves. If they go anywhere else, myself or my wife are right there. Correction, they do go into my neighbor's house and play with their kids.

I'm only 27. I didn't grow up in the inner city, but I also didn't grow up in a super-small town. I wouldn't say that my parents were bad parents and they were very protective of us. That being said, we used the spend the entire summer running around the development (a large one with many wooded sections) with the other neighborhood kids. We just had to tell our parents where we were going, and they told us when we needed to be back, and we'd usually go to some kid's house for lunch or whatever. What really changed? Were there less pedophiles in 1989? It wasn't THAT long ago. It's easy enough to go to a neighborhood where kids are playing - you don't need the internet to do that. If anything kids are MORE vulnerable to predators online than they are just running around outside.

My children are 6, 7, & 8 yrs old. We live in a family friendly neighborhood three houses down from the community park. There have been no reported cases of pedophiles or kidnappers in our area.

I do not allow them to go to the park by themselves. Am I over-protective? Maybe. But that's the way it is in my house.

A lot of that has to do with mean-world syndrome projected by the media. There really aren't more attacks...we just become much more aware of them - and much more quickly - now than previously. Also, in the past, a lot of times kids were considered to be runaways so the possibility of kidnapping was looked into less frequently by authorities. At least that's how understand it. I could be wrong.

It does... I believe that.  Yet, even though I realize that the chances aren't as large as they might be made out to be, I still don't know that I'd let them go off like that.

I have a few years before they are to that age, of course, the perception will probably be even worse then. 

2008-10-02 2:28 PM
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newleaf - 2008-10-02 1:14 PM Going to PE for 1/2 an hour every day, or every other day, is not going solve this problem.  This problem starts and ends at home.  This is not to say that I think PE is a bad thing, or that it is a good thing that schools are taking it away, but if one thinks PE will mitigate this problem, they are in fantasyland.

This kind of misses the point.  Its not about forcing the kid to move for 30 minutes.  In that case, you're right; it won't mitigate the problem.  However, physical education is about teaching the kid about a healthy lifestyle and how to maintain it.  They should be learning the importance of health diet and exercise.

2008-10-02 2:31 PM
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KenD - 2008-10-02 3:15 PM

My children are 6, 7, & 8 yrs old.  We live in a family friendly neighborhood three houses down from the community park.  There have been no reported cases of pedophiles or kidnappers in our area. 

I do not allow them to go to the park by themselves.  Am I over-protective?  Maybe.  But that's the way it is in my house.

So my parents were lousy parents?

As were all the parents back even when my parents were kids who let their kids run around town by themselves? So they were all lousy parents?



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LaurenSU02 - 2008-10-02 2:23 PM

A lot of that has to do with mean-world syndrome projected by the media. There really aren't more attacks...we just become much more aware of them - and much more quickly  - now than previously. Also, in the past, a lot of times kids were considered to be runaways so the possibility of kidnapping was looked into less frequently by authorities. At least that's how understand it. I could be wrong.

I'm pretty sure this (mean-world syndrome) has a lot to do with it. 

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