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2009-06-24 10:39 AM

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Subject: Which is the best way to get better/faster on the run?

So I realized after doing my first tri last weekend that the area which needs the most improvement is my run.  Now please realize that I've really only been running for the last couple of months and it is only the last month or so that I've been doing my runs without having to take walking breaks during them.  I'm only doing try-a-tris this years and the runs for the ones that I am doing are 2.5K.  For my training I do between 4-5K and I run the entire time but at a slow pace.  My coach mentioned to me last night that I'm not pushing myself hard enough and that I should do more shorter 2-3K runs at a quick pace to get faster.  So should I be working on getting faster by doing the longer distances and working up slowly over time or run faster for shorter distances now?



2009-06-24 10:41 AM
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Congrats on your success so far!  The best thing for you, right now, is to keep on running.  In addition to the tris, running local 5ks and 10ks are good to keep involved.  Also, do a lot more running over the off season.  You'll see a lot of improvement with consistency.  Good luck!

2009-06-24 10:45 AM
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Subject: RE: Which is the best way to get better/faster on the run?
you need to 1) do as much load as your body can handle (IOW don't do too much too soon), some times easy, sometimes short, sometimes long, sometimes hard 2) be consistent and 3) be patient.

And if you have a coach, why don't you just follow his/her advice? I am assuming he/she knows you as an athlete and the best what ways to help you achieve that goal...
2009-06-24 10:46 AM
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Subject: RE: Which is the best way to get better/faster on the run?
Since you have a coach then honestly, it is best to listen to your coach's advice and not confuse yourself with additional "advice" from others...even other coaches.


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2009-06-24 10:51 AM
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Subject: RE: Which is the best way to get better/faster on the run?
nerak11 - 2009-06-24 12:39 PM

So I realized after doing my first tri last weekend that the area which needs the most improvement is my run.  Now please realize that I've really only been running for the last couple of months and it is only the last month or so that I've been doing my runs without having to take walking breaks during them.  I'm only doing try-a-tris this years and the runs for the ones that I am doing are 2.5K.  For my training I do between 4-5K and I run the entire time but at a slow pace.  My coach mentioned to me last night that I'm not pushing myself hard enough and that I should do more shorter 2-3K runs at a quick pace to get faster.  So should I be working on getting faster by doing the longer distances and working up slowly over time or run faster for shorter distances now?



If you've only been running for a couple of months you need consistency not shorter faster runs.  In general, what I would lookat doing is building up frequency and duration over the next while until you are consistently running 4-5+x/week for 25+km a week.  After about three months I would hold steady at that level for a while and then maybe look to add a tempo run to the mix.

I would approach this something like this (assuming you are running 3x/week currently)

Month 1 - 4, 4, 5 building to 5, 5, 6
Month 2 - 3, 4, 4, 5 building to 4, 5, 5, 7
Month 3 - 3, 4, 4, 5, 6 building to 4, 4, 5, 5, 8

Within your runs you can include some strides which are pickups to about 3-5k race pace (if you aren't sure, you are running fairly fast but controlled) for 30 seconds with a 2 minute recovery between.  These will not be overly stressful but will help you learn to run faster.

Shane

2009-06-24 11:13 AM
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to quote someone.

run lots (or just keep running)  mostly slower/easy  sometimes faster


2009-06-24 11:29 AM
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I don't have one-on-one coaching - I'm in a group of 20 women that hired a coach to train with us once a week so I really don't feel like she knows what is going on with me as an individual.  She watched me run last night and said while I had good form I didn't look like I was pushing myself (I felt like I was!)  I've been working on mostly getting into a good rhythm and keeping my breathing under control so I don't resort to dropping down to a walk.  In addition to just doing more I guess I'll try and start to mix it up with some shorter runs at a faster pace.  Thanks!

2009-06-24 12:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Which is the best way to get better/faster on the run?
nerak11 - 2009-06-24 1:29 PM

I don't have one-on-one coaching - I'm in a group of 20 women that hired a coach to train with us once a week so I really don't feel like she knows what is going on with me as an individual.  She watched me run last night and said while I had good form I didn't look like I was pushing myself (I felt like I was!)  I've been working on mostly getting into a good rhythm and keeping my breathing under control so I don't resort to dropping down to a walk.  In addition to just doing more I guess I'll try and start to mix it up with some shorter runs at a faster pace.  Thanks!



As you are a new runner, for now I would just focus on the more part of the equation.  The faster will come as you put in consistent training.  Getting faster at running is a long term goal and success begins with being able to run regularly.

Shane



Edited by gsmacleod 2009-06-24 12:02 PM
2009-06-24 1:42 PM
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Subject: RE: Which is the best way to get better/faster on the run?
I'm no expert but here's what worked for me starting from off the couch:
i ran 5k about 2x a week for 2 months.  (ok more like a very slow jog )
Starting pace was about 40 minutes for 5k.
When I got to 5k in under 35 min I started to work on being faster.
Sprint a block, jog a block. walking if I needed. (still seemed to take about 35min)
I would pick objects out and be like "I'm going to run hard from that lamppost to the next street".  No real rhyme or reason, but i hate running and this helped me "push" myself.


I posted 5k in 29 min last sunday at my tri
yay.

(here's my secret race-day tip: when anyone passed me (which was frequently) I tried to keep up with them for a little bit to egg myself on.)
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