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2009-11-20 2:24 PM |
Pro 4578 Vancouver, BC | Subject: Canadian Health Care Hopefully that subject line got your attention. So I'm curious for the Canadians out there, are you happy with our healthcare system or not? For myself, I am. I've actually never known anyone that hasn't been, but I don't know many people who've had surgeries, so I'm not familiar with the waiting thing if it is in fact a problem. I've had one surgery, elective dental surgery and it happened when it was scheduled, but I guess that it a different case, as I knew during the time when I had braces that it had to happen during a certain time in the 3 years that I wore braces, so it got scheduled really far in advance. We've had a thread on this before, and I think that all the Canadians who posted were happy with our healthcare system, but that thread got pulled I think, so I can't find it and reread it any longer. There's some new people posting now, so I'm wondering what you all think. Edited by jeng 2009-11-20 2:25 PM |
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2009-11-20 2:28 PM in reply to: #2524143 |
Pro 4578 Vancouver, BC | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care Okay, I'm curious too. How much do you pay/month for healthcare? I'm sure I can find the MSP premiums for each province online, but do you pay anything for Extended care? I pay $0/month for a family. My MSP costs are $96 for a couple, but my employer pays though, and my employer covers all my extended healthcare, 100%. Prescription drugs, specialists appointments, massage therapy, physio therapy, as well as a certain amount on eye glasses, eye exams etc. My partner's employer (my partner is co-owner of the business) offers the same deal, but he didn't enroll in his because he's covered by mine. Edited by jeng 2009-11-20 2:29 PM |
2009-11-20 2:34 PM in reply to: #2524143 |
Veteran 667 | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care And here my Canadian friends kept telling me that Canadian Health Care meant free waffles with delicious syrup . I hate being disillusioned. Mmmm, buttery, syrupy waffles. I should eat something. I wish I lived in Canada. Well, except for when it snows. I don't think I'd like the snow (if it in fact actually exists - which I suspect it does not). Sorry, I didn't exactly add to your discussion. |
2009-11-20 2:36 PM in reply to: #2524143 |
Master 2287 Calgary, Alberta | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care Knock on wood - I, and my wife and kids have been healthy so haven't really had to test the health care system. The only time my kids were in the hospital for an extended stay was when they were born (my wife and I are opposite blood types and both kids needed full blood transfusions soon after being born). Nothing but praise for the neonatal ICU. |
2009-11-20 2:38 PM in reply to: #2524143 |
Pro 4578 Vancouver, BC | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care You definitely did. Maybe this belongs in the confessions thread, but: My good friend works at a waffle factory. They make all the name brand waffles except Eggo. I've been on a tour of the factory, and it was really exciting. They have waffles in syrup in all of their refrigerators. Anyway, anytime she gives me a crate (yes a crate) I eat at least 4 waffles a day. |
2009-11-20 2:39 PM in reply to: #2524143 |
Supersonicus Idioticus 2439 Thunder Bay, ON | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care It's the reason why I will not take a job in the US. The wait times aren't bad, if you are smart about it. I remember my health care plan providing a "wait times" survey. Suppose you needed a spinal MRI... it would list the wait times at each hospital for all the cities within say 200km from you. If you didn't mind driving an hour, you could get the MRI two weeks earlier. I'm sure there are other ways to improve your personal health care experience, but I'm pretty young. |
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2009-11-20 2:40 PM in reply to: #2524143 |
Master 2287 Calgary, Alberta | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care Company used to pay the provincial health care premium but last year Alberta dropped the health care premium. All Alberta citizens get "free" health care. I say "free" as obviously we must pay somehow through income taxes or other taxes. My work plan (for dental, eyecare, prescriptions) is not as good as yours. |
2009-11-20 2:44 PM in reply to: #2524143 |
Pro 4578 Vancouver, BC | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care Yeah, my extended health plan provided by my employers is very good. I work in IT though and there is a lot of competition for employees, so benefits in my industry are usually pretty good. A lot of companies offer memberships to health clubs as a benefit. |
2009-11-20 2:48 PM in reply to: #2524143 |
Elite 3290 Oliver, BC, "Wine Capital of Canada" | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care Not much help here. Haven't used the health care system in over 10 years. Don't even know for sure how much we pay, but I think it's around $50/mo ea. |
2009-11-20 2:53 PM in reply to: #2524143 |
Extreme Veteran 1996 Halifax, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care As I must mention on here every day (I must seem consumed by it) I have a pretty serious heart issue that requires meds, bi-monthly GP visits and blood work, and semi-annual echocardiagrams and cardologist visits, the odd wall motion study, etc., etc. Since my heart issue is supposed to be progressive (I'm stable at the moment) it theoretically (hope springs eternal) will get worse. I did not have a health plan when I found about this thing as I had just left one of the big banks where I had always been covered, and stupidly didn't run out and buy one right away. I thought since money would be tight as I was starting a new business and I was a healthy 40 year old triathlete that it wasn't a big deal. Whoops. If I lived in the US I would probably be insolvent. As it was, I only paid for my scripts- about $1200 a year. In the US that alone would be 5 figures. I think my cardiologist is great, as is my PCP who I have a great relationship with. When I have needed to be hurried to the front of the line I was, and when I waited in line, it was never too long. I'm very happy with our health care system. In fact, I'm pretty proud of our country. Edited by blairrob 2009-11-20 2:58 PM |
2009-11-20 3:00 PM in reply to: #2524143 |
Pro 4578 Vancouver, BC | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care Yeah, I don't use the system much either. Annual checkup at my family doctor's office, annual flu shot usually given my a health care practitioner that comes to my office, the pharmacy for prescriptions (usually only 1 that I get a Rx written for a year) and the occassional visit to a walk-in-clinic to renew a prescription that runs out early before I make it back to the doctor's office annually. Oh and the regular visit for massages. But that's not a covered expense by basic medical, so there's no waits there. My partner has a disease related to arthritis, since I can't spell it, I'll call it AS, so he makes more doctor's visits than me, but most of those are to a rhuematologist. He schedules the appointment in advance, and I don't think that doctor is very busy, so he doesn't wait at all. If athletes are generally healthier, than definitely this board (and my friends) are not a good segment of the population to survey, so I have to take anything I learn in this thread with a grain of salt I guess. My family members haven't really had or used the healthcare system that much either, but I'm sure that people here must have family and friends who have so I'm curious to read your opinions. |
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2009-11-20 3:03 PM in reply to: #2524208 |
Pro 4578 Vancouver, BC | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care blairrob - 2009-11-20 12:53 PM As I must mention on here every day (I must seem consumed by it) I have a pretty serious heart issue that requires meds, bi-monthly GP visits and blood work, and semi-annual echocardiagrams and cardologist visits, the odd wall motion study, etc., etc. I've read a lot of your posts blairrob, and I don't remember you mentioning that, so you definitely don't seemed consumed by it. Sorry to hear that though. I'm pretty proud to be a Canadian too. |
2009-11-20 3:17 PM in reply to: #2524143 |
Champion 4902 Ottawa, Ontario | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care I pay 14.71CND (13.74AMD) per month for health care. I keep hearing about what terrible shape our health care system is in but have yet to see it. I'm 59 and have never had to pay a cent for hospitalization or medical treatment! For the price I pay per month, it's a pretty good deal. Edited by Machiavelo 2009-11-20 3:21 PM |
2009-11-20 3:59 PM in reply to: #2524237 |
Extreme Veteran 1996 Halifax, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care jeng - 2009-11-20 5:03 PM blairrob - 2009-11-20 12:53 PM As I must mention on here every day (I must seem consumed by it) I have a pretty serious heart issue that requires meds, bi-monthly GP visits and blood work, and semi-annual echocardiagrams and cardologist visits, the odd wall motion study, etc., etc. I've read a lot of your posts blairrob, and I don't remember you mentioning that, so you definitely don't seemed consumed by it. Sorry to hear that though. I'm pretty proud to be a Canadian too. Thanks, and I'm not surprised. From your posts you seem to display the best traits of a Canadian, like a lot of Vancouverites. My bro is also a happy Vancity rez. |
2009-11-20 6:45 PM in reply to: #2524143 |
Champion 9407 Montague Gold Mines, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care I'm very happy with our health care even though I rarely make use of it (one dental surgery and besides that, the occasional physical is all I use it for). However, I know many people who have had serious medical concerns and all where happy with their experience. My EC medical is completely covered by my employer (family) as is my dental and I pay $15 biweekly for the family dental part of the plan. My coverage includes 80% dental, 80% optical, $5 copay on prescriptions, semi private room, 80% massage (up to 20 a year) to name a few. Shane |
2009-11-20 7:15 PM in reply to: #2524143 |
Member 57 Buena Vista, CO | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care interesting thread... I'll admit that I'm not as informed about the issue as I should be but it always get's me worked up when I see faux news and the like talking about how horrible it is in Canada. I dated a Canadian woman for about 3 years and she used to make fun of our system here in the states. She definitely wouldn't have traded places with me for anything. Same goes for a lot of friends I have in those damn socialist countries in Europe. I don't know where some of the talking heads here are getting there info but it definitely doesn't mesh with anything I've ever heard from actual residents. btw, my health insurance currently costs me zero dollars a month. (until I crash my bike that is) I'm one of those borderline people with solid but low paying jobs. (I work on the ambulance) I could probably tighten my budget enough to fit in insurance, and I know I should, but the current system just irks me so much that I won't do it. Insurance companies are making a killing down here, and paying 100's of thousands of dollars to polititians to keep us scared of you 'socialists' On top of that they are still turning down procedures left and right that they deem 'unneccesary' and turning away people with pre existing conditions. So anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing what more people say about this. And if anyone up north there want's a mail order husband let me know |
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2009-11-20 7:29 PM in reply to: #2524551 |
Master 1327 Ann Arbor, Michigan | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care The OP asked for Canadians' experiences with health care and already we've had commentary about other folks or those who don't use the system. Edited by travljini 2009-11-20 7:31 PM |
2009-11-20 7:46 PM in reply to: #2524143 |
Extreme Veteran 521 Coldstream ,BC | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care In Alberta, as it sits right now we pay nothing for health care. Up until this year year we paid $44/month per adult. They stopped Alberta Health Care payments at the beginning of the year (supposedly to help with the burdan of the recession), but now we are suffering a multimillion dollar deficit and the gov't is making HUGE cutbacks. |
2009-11-20 8:44 PM in reply to: #2524558 |
Pro 4828 The Land of Ice and Snow | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care travljini - 2009-11-20 8:29 PM The OP asked for Canadians' experiences with health care and already we've had commentary about other folks or those who don't use the system. Yep. Injured my knee at the beginning of September. Will be VERY lucky if it gets scoped by February........ For elective procedures our system is not great. The only reason I got my MRI so swiftly is that I work in the hospital and they took pity on me and squeezed me in. When my best friend hurt her knee she waited 13 months for an MRI. Another friend of mine had his MRI back in September........and now has to wait until February to discuss the results with a surgeon. Then who knows how long he will have to wait for his surgery.......... Now having said this, when my mother had breast cancer 6 years ago she received fairly swift treatment. She had surgery, chemo and radiation......all covered by our provincial healthcare plan. I am happy to say that she is doing fine now. Its not perfect. But its all I've ever known. I grew up with this system, and have seen it deteriorate over the years......both as a potential patient and as a healthcare professional. I have no answers...... |
2009-11-20 9:02 PM in reply to: #2524143 |
New user 420 Charlotte, NC USA | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care I'm curious, what are the tax rates in Canada? What are folks paying in income, sales, property, etc. taxes? |
2009-11-20 9:24 PM in reply to: #2524641 |
Extreme Veteran 1996 Halifax, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care ScoopJackson - 2009-11-20 11:02 PM I'm curious, what are the tax rates in Canada? What are folks paying in income, sales, property, etc. taxes?
sales tax- Federal 5%, provincial tack on up to 7%. Groceries, some essential items are untaxed. Property taxes vary a lot- $2k to 5k for a $300m property in the burbs of smaller cities. Vancouver, TO, Calgary are a different story. (My Prop taxes #'s are a bit of a guess) |
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2009-11-21 9:34 AM in reply to: #2524143 |
New user 420 Charlotte, NC USA | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care Thanks for the information. That all seems reasonable to me considering the low rates you pay for healthcare. Perhaps the stories you hear on the news occasionally about Canadians having to wait for months at a time for medical procedures are exaggerated? |
2009-11-21 10:36 AM in reply to: #2524143 |
Extreme Veteran 909 Westchester, NY | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care As an Ex-Pat Canuck all i can say thank gawd I got out when I did.. the taxes were killing me.. as an earner in the top over $250K. I was amazed how much in taxes i was getting taken away .. plus that good ol' GST on top of everything else.. ugh.. using the system ? being from Toronto, the "lines" were long and the wait time for a MRI was months.. i paid $200 to get it done in Buffalo the next day. I much prefer having more control in the type of care I get, and i'm willing to pay for it - through insurance and out of pocket for podiatrists and massages.. so what can i say ? does the single payer system work ? for some it does, and some it doesnt .. but then again, i paid for a lot and gotr very little out of it.. |
2009-11-21 11:07 AM in reply to: #2524895 |
Master 2287 Calgary, Alberta | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care ScoopJackson - 2009-11-21 8:34 AM Thanks for the information. That all seems reasonable to me considering the low rates you pay for healthcare. Perhaps the stories you hear on the news occasionally about Canadians having to wait for months at a time for medical procedures are exaggerated? I think it depends on what the medical procedure is. As you've read here - some folks have to wait an unreasonable amount of time for MRI's and orthopedic surgery. My dad did not have to wait an unreasonable amount of time for his heart surgery. So why is it you folks don't have to wait as long in the States as we do? Do you have more doctors and hospitals on a per capita basis that we do? If so then why is it we don't have as many? Are your doctors being paid more than ours? |
2009-11-21 1:08 PM in reply to: #2524895 |
Pro 4828 The Land of Ice and Snow | Subject: RE: Canadian Health Care ScoopJackson - 2009-11-21 10:34 AM Thanks for the information. That all seems reasonable to me considering the low rates you pay for healthcare. Perhaps the stories you hear on the news occasionally about Canadians having to wait for months at a time for medical procedures are exaggerated? No........its not an exaggeration at all............ |
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