Headphones, Running and the Government (Page 2)
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2011-01-25 7:11 AM in reply to: #3319196 |
Champion 8936 | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government I just hope they ban daydreaming and thinking intently while walking too. |
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2011-01-25 7:12 AM in reply to: #3319824 |
Veteran 297 Lomma | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government mr2tony - 2011-01-25 2:04 PM You can get hurt falling in your tub. Thank god I don't bathe. I once got stuck in a bathtub in Australia. |
2011-01-25 7:13 AM in reply to: #3319838 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government DerekL - 2011-01-25 7:11 AM I just hope they ban daydreaming and thinking intently while walking too. What would I do with half my time, then? |
2011-01-25 7:24 AM in reply to: #3319196 |
Master 2946 Centennial, CO | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government How about we ban cigarettes, alcohol, etc. first. Maybe ban things that cause significant deaths each year. (not that a few dumba$$es with headphones dieing isn't bad). |
2011-01-25 7:25 AM in reply to: #3319230 |
Master 2946 Centennial, CO | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government ChrisM - 2011-01-24 5:52 PM It's a great thing if you like being told what to do. It's a good thing if you want a bigger government. It's a good thing if you think we need more laws, and hire more folks to enforce them. It's a good thing if you think people are idiots. It's a good thing if you believe that people should not be permitted to make their own choices Otherwise. No And how about we raise taxes to pay for it all. |
2011-01-25 7:27 AM in reply to: #3319196 |
Champion 6962 Atlanta, Ga | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government Just like others have said, this is the dumbest thing ever. But like always, they use the "but it will save people" crap to justify it. I say if you are distracted and you get injured or injure someone, then you get to pay for it (literally and figuratively). People that say it will never fly, I thought the same thing about all the texting and phone while driving crap legislation that managed to pass in many states. |
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2011-01-25 8:33 AM in reply to: #3319196 |
Master 2946 Centennial, CO | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government Ya know I saw a movie once about a small town where they banned music and dancing. Maybe we could do that. Don't worry by the end they overcame the law and had fun at senior prom anyway. |
2011-01-25 8:41 AM in reply to: #3319196 |
Extreme Veteran 799 | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government Why not save the money they are wasting talking about this, and show everyone the dead bodies of the people who walked into traffic while not thinking? You can go to kinko's and spend less than $100 and deliver one to each house. Some people are just idiots, and they will kill themselves one way or another. Other people are idiots but can be taught. Teach people that choices have consequences and the world will be a better place. |
2011-01-25 9:18 AM in reply to: #3319196 |
Master 4101 Denver | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government I happen to think it's a dumb idea that won't work but if that's what the people of those places want to do I'm not going to claim I know what is best for them or that they can't give it a try and see how it goes. And the beautiful thing about our system is that if the people in those places don't like it they can vote in people who don't favor those laws or they can move to someplace else. |
2011-01-25 9:26 AM in reply to: #3319196 |
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2011-01-25 9:45 AM in reply to: #3320155 |
Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government AcesFull - 2011-01-25 9:26 AM One reason I sometimes support "nanny state" laws is that I pay taxes and want to pay less taxes. Disability costs money and injuries cost money. Helmet laws, for example, reduce head injuries, which reduces costs for the population to bear, whether it be through health insurance or government disability benefits, both of which come out of my pocket. I don't give a whit whether or not someone is too stupid to wear a seatbelt and gets their foolish azz killed, but I don't want to pay for that person's SSDI for the rest of their life because they didn't wear a seatbelt and are now brain-injured and wheelchair-bound. As to iPods and running, I'd want to know if there is any actual research to support significantly improved safety with the ban. Sounds more like an argument against society having to pay SSDI for individuals who make poor decisions. Isn't that what health insurance is supposed to be for? |
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2011-01-25 9:49 AM in reply to: #3319196 |
Pro 5761 Bartlett, TN | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government This all stems from that YouTube video of that woman texting at the mall and falling into that water fountain and now she is suing right? Whether it passes or not, I seriously doubt it will be enforced. TN has a no texting while driving law, but Memphis came out and said that it will not be enforced, because of the time it takes. I seriously doubt any Memphis cop is going to pull me over and write me a ticket for running with my iPod. |
2011-01-25 10:05 AM in reply to: #3319196 |
Regular 525 | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government I have several problems with these types of laws. The first is that there are already several laws in place to prevent the issues that headphones in the ears are supposedly causing. Just enforce the laws we already have in place. It is illegal to jaywalk, cross the street against a red light, step out into moving traffic. Why make it more illegal to do any of these things with headphones in? I just don't get it. Same goes with the texting and driving, but that's a whole different topic all together. The Arkansas guy just want the law on the books, he says he wants no enforcement of it. Why is he wasting our time? |
2011-01-25 10:14 AM in reply to: #3320264 |
Master 2538 Albuquerque | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government Its Only Money - 2011-01-25 9:05 AM I have several problems with these types of laws. The first is that there are already several laws in place to prevent the issues that headphones in the ears are supposedly causing. Just enforce the laws we already have in place. It is illegal to jaywalk, cross the street against a red light, step out into moving traffic. Why make it more illegal to do any of these things with headphones in? I just don't get it. Same goes with the texting and driving, but that's a whole different topic all together. The Arkansas guy just want the law on the books, he says he wants no enforcement of it. Why is he wasting our time? Exactly! Just like the cell phone bans while driving, those laws are already in place, just not enforced. They just want some time in the spotlight to make themselves look good to their constituents. |
2011-01-25 11:49 AM in reply to: #3319196 |
Extreme Veteran 3177 | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government That is right on with the comment about the current laws not being enforced (though I have to say in Seattle I DO see cops hand out tickets for J-walking in downtown area and for crossing against a red. We still see stupid people doing stupid things. If someone wants to take their life into their own hands and step into moving traffic because they were to busy listening to their I-pod that is not for me to nay say them. If they get injured or die I have seen cases where the driver was found not guilty of any crime because the pedestrian was in the wrong. Vulnerable users (such as pedestrians and cyclists) have to take some responsability for their own actions. |
2011-01-25 11:57 AM in reply to: #3320264 |
Champion 10018 , Minnesota | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government I was going to say something else (in defense of the law, just for fun), but this is actually right on. Good point! Its Only Money - 2011-01-25 10:05 AM I have several problems with these types of laws. The first is that there are already several laws in place to prevent the issues that headphones in the ears are supposedly causing. Just enforce the laws we already have in place. It is illegal to jaywalk, cross the street against a red light, step out into moving traffic. Why make it more illegal to do any of these things with headphones in? I just don't get it. Same goes with the texting and driving, but that's a whole different topic all together. The Arkansas guy just want the law on the books, he says he wants no enforcement of it. Why is he wasting our time? |
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2011-01-25 12:13 PM in reply to: #3320212 |
Expert 3126 Boise, ID | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government
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2011-01-25 1:04 PM in reply to: #3320205 |
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2011-01-25 1:09 PM in reply to: #3320802 |
Expert 3126 Boise, ID | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government AcesFull - 2011-01-25 12:04 PM scoobysdad - 2011-01-25 9:45 AM AcesFull - 2011-01-25 9:26 AM Sounds more like an argument against society having to pay SSDI for individuals who make poor decisions. Isn't that what health insurance is supposed to be for? One reason I sometimes support "nanny state" laws is that I pay taxes and want to pay less taxes. Disability costs money and injuries cost money. Helmet laws, for example, reduce head injuries, which reduces costs for the population to bear, whether it be through health insurance or government disability benefits, both of which come out of my pocket. I don't give a whit whether or not someone is too stupid to wear a seatbelt and gets their foolish azz killed, but I don't want to pay for that person's SSDI for the rest of their life because they didn't wear a seatbelt and are now brain-injured and wheelchair-bound. As to iPods and running, I'd want to know if there is any actual research to support significantly improved safety with the ban. Health insurance is yet another way that expenses are spread from the unhelmeted to me. I'd rather just make the SOB wear a helmet, and avoid having to cover his injuries OR his disability. And that is exactly what is terrifying about government mandated health care. As soon as they can make it law that you have to have health insurance they can financially compel you to do almost anything. Your state doesn't have a helmet law? Well you have to have insurance, if you wear a helmet your premium will be $500 a month, if you don't wear a helmet your premium will be $5,000 a month. Guess you better wear a helmet. Oh you like to run with your iPod. Well feel free to do so, but if you do beware that it will raise your government mandated health insurance premiums by $500 a month. Guess you better ditch the iPod eh? etc. etc. |
2011-01-25 1:19 PM in reply to: #3320802 |
Member 5452 NC | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government AcesFull - 2011-01-25 2:04 PM Health insurance is yet another way that expenses are spread from the unhelmeted to me. I'd rather just make the SOB wear a helmet, and avoid having to cover his injuries OR his disability. How about making failure to wear a helmet an exclusion/exemption (can't reminder which) from coverage? |
2011-01-25 1:23 PM in reply to: #3320828 |
Expert 3126 Boise, ID | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government Goosedog - 2011-01-25 12:19 PM AcesFull - 2011-01-25 2:04 PM Health insurance is yet another way that expenses are spread from the unhelmeted to me. I'd rather just make the SOB wear a helmet, and avoid having to cover his injuries OR his disability. How about making failure to wear a helmet an exclusion/exemption (can't reminder which) from coverage? Can't do that cause even if the injured rider doesn't have coverage the hospital isn't going to be able to turn them away. Bring on the death panels I guess. |
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2011-01-25 1:42 PM in reply to: #3320843 |
Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government Aarondb4 - 2011-01-25 1:23 PM Goosedog - 2011-01-25 12:19 PM AcesFull - 2011-01-25 2:04 PM Health insurance is yet another way that expenses are spread from the unhelmeted to me. I'd rather just make the SOB wear a helmet, and avoid having to cover his injuries OR his disability. How about making failure to wear a helmet an exclusion/exemption (can't reminder which) from coverage? Can't do that cause even if the injured rider doesn't have coverage the hospital isn't going to be able to turn them away. Bring on the death panels I guess. One way or another, those of us who play by the rules, pay taxes and pay health insurance premiums pay for those who don't. The problem is-- and it's political kryptonite to even discuss it-- if we really want to lower healthcare and insurance costs, there needs to be more in the way of negative consequences for those who do not or choose not to participate in the system. It's certainly not the only thing that needs to be done to address costs, but it's a big thing. |
2011-01-25 1:42 PM in reply to: #3319219 |
Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government ChineseDemocracy - 2011-01-24 4:46 PM I for one think it's a great idea. Is it government overstepping its' bounds? Not if we voted the folks in who support measures like this. To me, it's common sense. That said, not a lot of folks out there have common sense, hence, a law is sometimes required. Do you think that these types of laws has any relationship on the general publics lack of common sense? |
2011-01-25 2:03 PM in reply to: #3320893 |
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2011-01-25 2:06 PM in reply to: #3319196 |
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