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 2011-01-24 6:36 PM |
Champion  6056    Menomonee Falls, WI |  Subject: Headphones, Running and the Governmenthttp://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-01-24-pedestrians-ipod_N.h... I know we've had discussions about this issue in the past, and people have strong beliefs on both sides. But until now, it's been a personal choice whether to wear headphones while running or not (except in races, of course.) This is a game-changer. Does the government have a place in banning headphones for pedestrians or is this a case of the "Nanny State" exceeding its legitimate boundaries? |
| 2011-01-24 6:43 PM in reply to: #3319196 |
Champion 4942   Richmond, VA | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government as long as I can still have my headphones while riding my bike... |
| 2011-01-24 6:46 PM in reply to: #3319196 |
Elite 4547 | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government I for one think it's a great idea. Is it government overstepping its' bounds? Not if we voted the folks in who support measures like this. To me, it's common sense. That said, not a lot of folks out there have common sense, hence, a law is sometimes required. |
| 2011-01-24 6:51 PM in reply to: #3319196 |
Expert 1690 | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government I will wear them anyway but i know its dangerous that i do so. Some things need to be mandated even if the government is overstepping, and i dont see this as a bad one. |
| 2011-01-24 6:52 PM in reply to: #3319196 |
| Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government It's a great thing if you like being told what to do. It's a good thing if you want a bigger government. It's a good thing if you think we need more laws, and hire more folks to enforce them. It's a good thing if you think people are idiots. It's a good thing if you believe that people should not be permitted to make their own choices Otherwise. No |
| 2011-01-24 7:09 PM in reply to: #3319196 |
Elite 4148 Utah | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government next up... You must have one window down while listening to the radio in your car. Really? What's the difference??? |
| 2011-01-24 7:11 PM in reply to: #3319196 |
Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government I'm a Libertarian. The last thing we need is more laws to protect us from ourselves. |
| 2011-01-24 7:43 PM in reply to: #3319219 |
Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government ChineseDemocracy - 2011-01-24 6:46 PM I for one think it's a great idea. Is it government overstepping its' bounds? Not if we voted the folks in who support measures like this. I'm guessing not many voters are aware of their candidates' stances on iPod running prior to Election Day. I'm not sure they should have to be, either. |
| 2011-01-24 8:46 PM in reply to: #3319196 |
Master 2538 Albuquerque | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government are they going to ticket deaf people every day of their lives for walking around without being able to hear others? |
| 2011-01-24 9:09 PM in reply to: #3319196 |
| Payson, AZ | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government But it is the state government coming up with the rule, not the federal government right? Everyone keeps telling me if you don't like your state government and the things they do just move. problem solved. |
| 2011-01-24 9:44 PM in reply to: #3319230 |
Champion 10668 Tacoma, Washington | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government ChrisM - 2011-01-24 4:52 PM It's a great thing if you like being told what to do. It's a good thing if you want a bigger government. It's a good thing if you think we need more laws, and hire more folks to enforce them. It's a good thing if you think people are idiots. It's a good thing if you believe that people should not be permitted to make their own choices Otherwise. No I, for one, DO think that people are idiots. And a$$-holes, but that's a different discussion. Also, I do NOT think this is a good idea. Geez, let natural selection take its course. |
| 2011-01-24 10:02 PM in reply to: #3319513 |
| Master 1895 | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government briderdt - 2011-01-24 10:44 PM ChrisM - 2011-01-24 4:52 PM It's a great thing if you like being told what to do. It's a good thing if you want a bigger government. It's a good thing if you think we need more laws, and hire more folks to enforce them. It's a good thing if you think people are idiots. It's a good thing if you believe that people should not be permitted to make their own choices Otherwise. No I, for one, DO think that people are idiots. And a$$-holes, but that's a different discussion. Also, I do NOT think this is a good idea. Geez, let natural selection take its course. x2 |
| 2011-01-24 10:34 PM in reply to: #3319196 |
Champion 6285 Beautiful Sonoma County | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government It'll never pass. It's just another of those for-show bills that come up. Although it would be nice if they enforced standing jaywalking laws. |
| 2011-01-24 10:45 PM in reply to: #3319534 |
| Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government hamiltks10 - 2011-01-24 8:02 PM briderdt - 2011-01-24 10:44 PM ChrisM - 2011-01-24 4:52 PM It's a great thing if you like being told what to do. It's a good thing if you want a bigger government. It's a good thing if you think we need more laws, and hire more folks to enforce them. It's a good thing if you think people are idiots. It's a good thing if you believe that people should not be permitted to make their own choices Otherwise. No I, for one, DO think that people are idiots. And a$$-holes, but that's a different discussion. Also, I do NOT think this is a good idea. Geez, let natural selection take its course. x2 LOL, I was going to add, if you don't like Darwin |
| 2011-01-24 11:21 PM in reply to: #3319196 |
Master 3127 Sunny Southern Cal | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government You know, if you just add earphones to that iGun of yours, you'll have the NRA and the Tea Party on your side, right there with your iHolster. |
| 2011-01-25 3:02 AM in reply to: #3319595 |
Veteran 698 | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government Next they can target those people who walk around, distracted by what they are thinking about, who don't notice what's happening around them. In other words, this is an idiotic idea. |
| 2011-01-25 3:41 AM in reply to: #3319595 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government SevenZulu - 2011-01-24 11:21 PM You know, if you just add earphones to that iGun of yours, you'll have the NRA and the Tea Party on your side, right there with your iHolster. I was about to say ... I can kill people with my legal weapon and still have people say it was my right to have that gun, yet I can't wear my headphones while jogging? Something is seriously not right here. |
| 2011-01-25 5:22 AM in reply to: #3319675 |
| Member 99 South Riding, VA | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government mr2tony - 2011-01-25 4:41 AM SevenZulu - 2011-01-24 11:21 PM I was about to say ... I can kill people with my legal weapon and still have people say it was my right to have that gun, yet I can't wear my headphones while jogging? Something is seriously not right here. You know, if you just add earphones to that iGun of yours, you'll have the NRA and the Tea Party on your side, right there with your iHolster. Which constitutional amendment protects your right to listen to your iPod while jogging? |
| 2011-01-25 5:34 AM in reply to: #3319196 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back Gold member | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government They can have my headphones when they pry them from my cold dead fingers! |
| 2011-01-25 6:05 AM in reply to: #3319727 |
Pro 6767 the Alabama part of Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government the bear - 2011-01-25 6:34 AM They can have my headphones when they pry them from my cold dead fingers ears I think this is what you meant to say. |
| 2011-01-25 6:44 AM in reply to: #3319196 |
Arch-Bishop of BT 10278 Pittsburgh | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government Look, I think it is a stupid idea... and an unenforcable law to boot so why bother... however...
I wonder if the civil authority might not have a compelling interest here... I live in a town with a university of 30k students, many of whom have earbuds crammed in and the volume jacked up (oh, and a few of our 30k residents do that too)... So on the rail trail, there are accidents. Crossing the street there are accidents. The argument has been made that we should let Darwin take over. However, in the meantime, vital community resources are being diverted to deal with these accidents and injuries. It is not just a matter of individual doing something and getting hurt, but sooner or later it affects everyone. If a state could ban headphones because they saw that they could save money and resources, might they not have a compelling interest in doing so? Just a thought... |
| 2011-01-25 6:56 AM in reply to: #3319796 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back Gold member | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government akustix - 2011-01-25 6:44 AM Look, I think it is a stupid idea... and an unenforcable law to boot so why bother... however...
I wonder if the civil authority might not have a compelling interest here... I live in a town with a university of 30k students, many of whom have earbuds crammed in and the volume jacked up (oh, and a few of our 30k residents do that too)... So on the rail trail, there are accidents. Crossing the street there are accidents. The argument has been made that we should let Darwin take over. However, in the meantime, vital community resources are being diverted to deal with these accidents and injuries. It is not just a matter of individual doing something and getting hurt, but sooner or later it affects everyone. If a state could ban headphones because they saw that they could save money and resources, might they not have a compelling interest in doing so? Just a thought... Can you say "slippery slope"? Suppose the powers that be decide that it's not headphones that cause the accidents, but cycling, or running, or just general use of the trails. Would you be OK if "they could save money and resources" by banning those activities? |
| 2011-01-25 6:58 AM in reply to: #3319513 |
Veteran 297 Lomma | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government briderdt - 2011-01-25 4:44 AM ChrisM - 2011-01-24 4:52 PM It's a great thing if you like being told what to do. It's a good thing if you want a bigger government. It's a good thing if you think we need more laws, and hire more folks to enforce them. It's a good thing if you think people are idiots. It's a good thing if you believe that people should not be permitted to make their own choices Otherwise. No I, for one, DO think that people are idiots. And a$$-holes, but that's a different discussion. Also, I do NOT think this is a good idea. Geez, let natural selection take its course. What he said! Stupidest thing i ever heard. |
| 2011-01-25 7:04 AM in reply to: #3319196 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government You can get hurt falling in your tub. Thank god I don't bathe. |
| 2011-01-25 7:11 AM in reply to: #3319808 |
Arch-Bishop of BT 10278 Pittsburgh | Subject: RE: Headphones, Running and the Government the bear - 2011-01-25 7:56 AM akustix - 2011-01-25 6:44 AM Look, I think it is a stupid idea... and an unenforcable law to boot so why bother... however...
I wonder if the civil authority might not have a compelling interest here... I live in a town with a university of 30k students, many of whom have earbuds crammed in and the volume jacked up (oh, and a few of our 30k residents do that too)... So on the rail trail, there are accidents. Crossing the street there are accidents. The argument has been made that we should let Darwin take over. However, in the meantime, vital community resources are being diverted to deal with these accidents and injuries. It is not just a matter of individual doing something and getting hurt, but sooner or later it affects everyone. If a state could ban headphones because they saw that they could save money and resources, might they not have a compelling interest in doing so? Just a thought... Can you say "slippery slope"? Suppose the powers that be decide that it's not headphones that cause the accidents, but cycling, or running, or just general use of the trails. Would you be OK if "they could save money and resources" by banning those activities? No of course not... I'm not good with it at all... I was simply raising a possible justification that they might be using. As long as fundamental rights are not being curtailed the bans could hold up. I might argue that banning activity on the rail trail curtails the right of free assembly... although banning certain activities would not...
Just playing devil's advocate here. |
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