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2011-06-05 3:31 AM

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So what gems have you learned and tri sins committed (training or race)? Lay it on us. Underwear under bike shorts? Underwear over bike shorts? Helmet backwards? Vaseline'd up a perfectly good wetsuit? Couldn't resist a day-before outing?

Here are some of mine.

- If you have technicolor gunk coming out of any natural or synthetic orifices, DO NOT RACE.

- If you have technicolor gunk emitting forcefully from orifices, do not eat a boatload of Mexican food, pizza, ice cream, and soda the night before a half-marathon in the rain ... even if it is your birthday.

- It does not matter how hot the piglet you meet the night before your first marathon is (especially if you've only ever done two 5Ks before ... long before). You are there to do the RACE.

- NOTHING NEW ON RACE DAY. (^^^ like that) But it's the exact same make, model and size ... doesn't matter. (You'll forget to cut the tags out).

- There's a reason that 70.3 and Ironman races don't allow any kind of bike except road or tri, in road or tri setups. Even if they don't enforce it, there's a RULE and a REASON behind it!

- The likelihood of stuff bouncing out of a non-zip Bento-type box during a race or isolated ride is in direct proportion to how much you need it.

- If the diehard surf piglets are onshore, not in the water, and taking bets on how long you last ... this is not your day to do an OWS.



2011-06-05 6:14 AM
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From my paltry year of tri experience (I could write books about running....)

*On the swim, if no one is anywhere close, you'd better make really sure you're not going the wrong way.

*Whatever can fall off, will. Bike components, food, water, toenails......

*If you're a mechanical idiot, have a mechanic check anything you've assembled before you ride it.

*Always park your bike where you can find it. If you have any tendency toward dyslexia, put it straight ahead out of the swim, not to one side. (Left? Right? Huh?)

*No matter how much marathon experience/arrogance you might have, a tri run is always at best tough, at worst excruciating. But everyone else feels like s.... too.

*Check out where the finish line is ahead of time. Don't assume everyone ahead of you is headed that way, no matter how good-looking they may be.

 

 



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Blue tinted goggles make orange swim buoys an invisible shade of grey.
2011-06-05 7:13 AM
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Oh yeah, forgot one (but maybe I'm the only one dumb/luckless enough to need this advice):

Figure out the gearing on your new road bike BEFORE a hilly race, not during the race itself.

2011-06-05 7:41 AM
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Hot Runner - 2011-06-05 8:14 PM

*Check out where the finish line is ahead of time. Don't assume everyone ahead of you is headed that way, no matter how good-looking they may be.

bwaah ha ha SNORT

Not that I can relate, or anything.

Another pearl of wisdom you can find in any race rules:

KNOW THY COURSE.

2011-06-05 8:03 AM
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After a training ride, take the few seconds to put your bike in the bike rack before getting in your car. Don't sit in the AC first and drink some recovery drink first.

It's much harder to back over your bike this way...



Also, if you have a roof rack...make sure you take your bike off BEFORE entering the garage.



2011-06-05 8:30 AM
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and oh yes, ride the new bike at least once before a race!!!  been there, done that!!

 

2011-06-05 8:40 AM
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copious amounts of Chinese food is not an appropriate pre race dinner for a first ever half marathon
2011-06-05 10:35 AM
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If you must go mountain biking in the week before your race, don't try new big obstacles.

If you must try new obstacles, make sure you have bar end plugs.

 

If you fail to heed the above advice, be sure to wear a waterproof bandage over your resulting injury during the OWS.

2011-06-05 10:38 AM
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2 hours is not enough time between eating Huevos Rancheros (eggs, beans, salsa) and going on a long run.
2011-06-05 10:48 AM
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TriAya - 2011-06-05 3:31 AM

 

- There's a reason that 70.3 and Ironman races don't allow any kind of bike except road or tri, in road or tri setups. Even if they don't enforce it, there's a RULE and a REASON behind it!

 

Never seen this rule, and I have seen the occasional MTBs at the 70.3s I've officiated. Please show me where you find this.



2011-06-05 11:29 AM
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Don't attend your fathers wedding the night before your first half ironman.  4 hours sleep is NOT enough for this length of event.
2011-06-05 11:37 AM
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Hot Runner - 2011-06-05 5:14 AM

*No matter how much marathon experience/arrogance you might have, a tri run is always at best tough, at worst excruciating. But everyone else feels like s.... too.

 

I learned this one first hand yesterday, the first mile of running had to be the funniest thing I ever seen.

* When the race director say's the water is a balmy 51 degree's expect to not feel any part of your body after the swim.

2011-06-05 11:59 AM
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the bear - 2011-06-06 12:48 AM
TriAya - 2011-06-05 3:31 AM

 

- There's a reason that 70.3 and Ironman races don't allow any kind of bike except road or tri, in road or tri setups. Even if they don't enforce it, there's a RULE and a REASON behind it!

Never seen this rule, and I have seen the occasional MTBs at the 70.3s I've officiated. Please show me where you find this.

I stand corrected (actually, I'm lying down). Several 70.3s and IM races, and apparently it can vary from year, prohibit nearly any kind of bike except road or tri in road/tri setups. The highlighted portion below (I personally guarantee it though can't find an Internet reference) appeared in the Oceanside 70.3 2008 race manual, but does not (as far as I can see) in the 2012 version.

Oooh--first example from our own BT.

Does the Ironman 70.3 allow mountain bikes??

20 posts - 19 authors - Last post: 11 Jul 2009
Below is from the Hawaii 70.3 Athletes Guide: "All athletes are required to ride road/triathlon bikes. Mountain bikes, beach cruisers and ...
wwww.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/.../thread-view.asp?tid...1 - Cached

 

Bike Rules - Ironman UK

Mountain bikes, beach cruisers and bikes with coaster-type brakes are prohibited. ... Each athlete must wear the IRONMAN 70.3 UK issued race number at all ...
www.ironmanuk.com/2011/uk-ironman-703/race.../rules/bike-rules - Cached

FAQ - Ironman UK

Competitors will not be allowed to use mountain bikes in this race. ...
www.ironmanuk.com/2011/uk-ironman-703/faq - Cached

 

ETA: The linkie is to NA Sports's own (purportedly current) Race Rules, where the highlighted portion appears on the first page as a USAT 2006 amendment ... does that mean FOR 2006 or SINCE 2006? I don't know.

http://www.nasports.com/RaceRules.pdf



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TriAya - 2011-06-05 11:59 AM
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TriAya - 2011-06-05 3:31 AM

 

- There's a reason that 70.3 and Ironman races don't allow any kind of bike except road or tri, in road or tri setups. Even if they don't enforce it, there's a RULE and a REASON behind it!

Never seen this rule, and I have seen the occasional MTBs at the 70.3s I've officiated. Please show me where you find this.

I stand corrected (actually, I'm lying down). Several 70.3s and IM races, and apparently it can vary from year, prohibit nearly any kind of bike except road or tri in road/tri setups. The highlighted portion below (I personally guarantee it though can't find an Internet reference) appeared in the Oceanside 70.3 2008 race manual, but does not (as far as I can see) in the 2012 version.

Oooh--first example from our own BT.

 

So race specific at best.

Bt forums aren't the best reference n the world. I could show you a ton of fallacious crap posted here through the years. Some have even posted that Pop Tarts are good-tasting food.



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the bear - 2011-06-06 2:04 AM
TriAya - 2011-06-05 11:59 AM
the bear - 2011-06-06 12:48 AM
TriAya - 2011-06-05 3:31 AM

 

- There's a reason that 70.3 and Ironman races don't allow any kind of bike except road or tri, in road or tri setups. Even if they don't enforce it, there's a RULE and a REASON behind it!

Never seen this rule, and I have seen the occasional MTBs at the 70.3s I've officiated. Please show me where you find this.

I stand corrected (actually, I'm lying down). Several 70.3s and IM races, and apparently it can vary from year, prohibit nearly any kind of bike except road or tri in road/tri setups. The highlighted portion below (I personally guarantee it though can't find an Internet reference) appeared in the Oceanside 70.3 2008 race manual, but does not (as far as I can see) in the 2012 version.

Oooh--first example from our own BT.

 

So race specific at best. Really don't see the REASON behind it either. Someone wants to train and race on a MTB, and can do it within the time limits, why should there be a rule?

Bt forums aren't the best reference n the world. I could show you a ton of fallacious crap posted here through the years.

Indeed, and a good bit from me. What, nearly 30K quality posts? PFFFFFFT

However, that quote was taken from the Hawaii 70.3 race guide, not a BTer.

Maybe race-specific at best, but at least in 2006, not supposed to be so for all NA Sports IM-branded events?

Now I'm interested, and digging around to see if this verbiage appears anywhere for 2011/2012, and if so, how extensively through 70.3/Ironman races.

 

ETA: one very good reason for no mt/cruiser bikes is that (at least for cruisers, and some mtb's look like it) they take up way more of their fair/allotted share of transition space.

 



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the bear - 2011-06-06 2:04 AM

Bt forums aren't the best reference n the world. I could show you a ton of fallacious crap posted here through the years. Some have even posted that Pop Tarts are good-tasting food.

OMG now dem's fightin' words right thar, bear!!!

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Really don't see the REASON behind it either. Someone wants to train and race on a MTB, and can do it within the time limits, why should there be a rule? We are schooled to believe that rules are there to promote safety and fairness, can't see where either is compromised by use of a MTB.

 



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the bear - 2011-06-06 2:15 AM Really don't see the REASON behind it either. Someone wants to train and race on a MTB, and can do it within the time limits, why should there be a rule? We are schooled to believe that rules are there to promote safety and fairness, can't see where either is compromised by use of a MTB.

You keep interrupting me before I can change my mind and finish my edits, you mr. bear pop-tart hater!

as above ... ETA: one very good reason for no mt/cruiser bikes is that (at least for cruisers, and some mtb's look like it) they take up way more of their fair/allotted share of transition space.

I think no coaster-brakes or fixie-type bikes is self-explanatory? no?

I'm busy shooting off my mouth before I can finish my research. Excuse me ... must go play on the Internet more ...

Wait, I SWEAR "that guy" at IMKY -- yeah, the one with facial hair who did the bike and the run in cutoff jeans and a wifebeater -- was riding a Huffy bike, or somesuch.
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TriAya - 2011-06-05 12:12 PM

ETA: one very good reason for no mt/cruiser bikes is that (at least for cruisers, and some mtb's look like it) they take up way more of their fair/allotted share of transition space.

 

Way more? How so? Don't have a cruiser but my MTB is two inches longer and no wider than my road or my tri bike.

Coaster brakes and fixies are banned by the USAT rules that say one must have a brake on each wheel, although either would be allowed if the two-brake requirement was met.



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When you decide to go big time and dump water on your head at an aid station, be sure it is water and not sports drink.


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the bear - 2011-06-06 2:26 AM

TriAya - 2011-06-05 12:12 PM

ETA: one very good reason for no mt/cruiser bikes is that (at least for cruisers, and some mtb's look like it) they take up way more of their fair/allotted share of transition space.

 

Way more? How so? Don't have a cruiser but my MTB is two inches longer and no wider than my road or my tri bike.

Coaster brakes and fixies are banned by the USAT rules that say one must have a brake on each wheel, although either would be allowed if the two-brake requirement was met.

I confess I have no idea what WTC/NAS events (and the more I look, the more there are that have the exact "only road or triathlon style bikes" wording) had in mind when they adopted that rule (likely from USAT, it seems?). I ASSUMED it was primarily because of space and then service/pickup issues.

Would cruiser bars (sorry, I just can't imagine them NOT being wider, and the bikes longer), mountain bike bars, and hybrid bars on average be wider than road/tri bars?

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TriAya - 2011-06-05 7:41 AM
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*Check out where the finish line is ahead of time. Don't assume everyone ahead of you is headed that way, no matter how good-looking they may be.

bwaah ha ha SNORT

Not that I can relate, or anything.

Another pearl of wisdom you can find in any race rules:

KNOW THY COURSE.

Ya, cause those three guys in front of you don't know where they're going.

Actually, this morning I was running a short brick on the lakefront and got tangled up in the Lincoln Park Zoo 5/10K.  As I got myself disentangled, I had to send one poor dude back to the race as he decided to follow me off course.  

If I hadn't been the perpetrator of a similar race crime, I would have smugly wondered how he could have gotten away from the race.  

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Take advice of self-proclaimed experts with a HUGE grain of salt.

Don't set time goals for new distance races.

Lose those last 5 lbs before you start training.

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TriAya - 2011-06-05 12:45 PM
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TriAya - 2011-06-05 12:12 PM

ETA: one very good reason for no mt/cruiser bikes is that (at least for cruisers, and some mtb's look like it) they take up way more of their fair/allotted share of transition space.

 

Way more? How so? Don't have a cruiser but my MTB is two inches longer and no wider than my road or my tri bike.

Coaster brakes and fixies are banned by the USAT rules that say one must have a brake on each wheel, although either would be allowed if the two-brake requirement was met.

I confess I have no idea what WTC/NAS events (and the more I look, the more there are that have the exact "only road or triathlon style bikes" wording) had in mind when they adopted that rule (likely from USAT, it seems?). I ASSUMED it was primarily because of space and then service/pickup issues.

Would cruiser bars (sorry, I just can't imagine them NOT being wider, and the bikes longer), mountain bike bars, and hybrid bars on average be wider than road/tri bars?

You said in yor original post

"There's a reason that 70.3 and Ironman races don't allow any kind of bike except road or tri, in road or tri setups. Even if they don't enforce it, there's a RULE and a REASON behind it!"

What reason did you have in mind there? Certainly that they take up a few more inches in transition wouldn't make your iteration a "pearl of wisdom"?

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