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2006-03-23 4:24 PM

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Subject: need help: self-abuse in teenager

The 15 yr old daughter of a friend of mine is reaching out for help. She has cut herself 3 times now. She confided in me 2 days ago and then told her mother last night. Her mother is going to make an appointment with a therapist but in the meantime she is struggling to understand why this is happening.

Does anyone have information they can share with me that I can provide to both the daughter and her mother?

Any website for self-help for self-abusing teenagers?

Thank you so much.



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2006-03-23 4:37 PM
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Renee, Our youth pastor has recently dealt with several girls who are injuring themselves.  One of the resources he's used is, "Self-Injury: When Pain Feels Good", it's published by Resources for Changing Lives.

http://ccef.org/product_display.asp?pl=2

2006-03-23 4:38 PM
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okay, can't believe i'm saying this here...

i still have scars. most of it was self-inflicted, but not all of it. it was a HUGE cry for help. at the time, i was in a very abusive relationship - at age 15. the boyfriend and the friends i was hanging out with were all using drugs. i smoked pot and drank, but that was as far as it went. i was a stage in my life where i wanted my parents to butt out and leave me alone, but at the same time i desperately needed their love, help, and guidance. even though i knew what abuse was, i thought i was in love - first love - with an older guy who was on drugs and had a history of abuse himself (he living in a foster house when we first met). i don't need to go into details, but not all the scars were from me.

seeing a therapist would be a VERY good idea. my parents never told me i couldn't see this boy or the friends i was hanging out with, but they were very clear that they loved me and were very concerned about these friendships. seeing a therapist then helped me learn things about myself that have kept me healthy and in healthy relationships ever since. had i not seen a therapist then, i think i would had a much harder time pulling myself out of that situation.

best of luck to mother and daughter.
2006-03-23 5:14 PM
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on a very practical level make sure the teenager knows how to cut safely. clean blades, clean dressings and such like. i've only ever harmed by pulling at my hair when things have gotten really bad so i i don't fully get the cutting but i know what it is liek to need to physcially let out the **** going on inside. btw counselling is great!

thoughts to daughter and mother.
2006-03-23 5:16 PM
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No experience in this.

ONLY, PRAYERS FOR HER AND THE SUPPORT OF HER FAMILY.

2006-03-23 7:01 PM
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Maybe it's old theory now, but I read Reviving Ophelia when I was in college and it opened my eyes (as a college age male) to alot of things. It may or may not answer your questions, but it will certainly help you see just how difficult a time it is for teenage girls to grow up. There are so many conflicting signals from society, and while there is SOOOOO much that a parent can do to help, there is only so much a parent can do to help. At the end of the day it's up to the girl to make the changes, and by talking about it, it appears that she is making the right choice.

Anyhow - read Reviving Ophelia. Very interesting.


2006-03-23 7:42 PM
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I hurt myself today
To see if I still feel
I focus on the pain
The only thing that’s real

Trent Reznor said that, and it's about right. I went through about a year of this when I was 14 and it wasn't pretty. After my dad died, I picked the razor up again. Despite me watching his horrible death, I was numb. It helped me get though.  I excorcized those demons in Miami last November, and I pray they won't return.

2006-03-23 7:59 PM
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Hi Renee - this website has good basic info: http://kidshealth.org/teen/your_mind/mental_health/cutting.html

Good luck.....it's great that this girl knew that she needed to talk to someone.  A very impt first step!

2006-03-23 9:21 PM
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Renee, my prayers go out to your friend and her daughter. To you all who have voiced similar histories, my heart goes out to each of you.
I've fought my demons, and still do, but not that one.  Such pain, to endure while so young reminds some of us of just how blessed and fortunate we are.
God bless you.
2006-03-23 9:36 PM
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Borderline Personality Disorder.

Check out: http://www.bpdcentral.com/

It's a great site and it helped me when dealing with a close friend who suffered from this.

You are a good friend for wanting to help.
2006-03-23 10:37 PM
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D.Z. - 2006-03-23 8:01 PM Anyhow - read Reviving Ophelia. Very interesting.

Renee, I suggest getting that book for her. I read it when I was going through a hard time in college too. Its good.

Thank goodness her mom is getting her into therapy now.



2006-03-24 6:50 AM
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Ditto on the prayers and thoughts.   I don't know that this is on the same level, but my brother's son went through a period where he was pulling his hair out, literally.  Hair, eyebrows.  It was tough to see.  He was feeling alienated at school because he was different because his intelligence was really high.  Well a therapist helped not only him, but the parents as well.  They got him involved in some camps and classes that celebrated his talents and he was surrounded by other, similar kids. 

My point is that a therapist/professional may be able to suggest changes to the whole family structure/routine that will help that a friend or family member would never be able to do.

 

2006-03-24 7:21 AM
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I am in the "really useful stuff isn't at a triathlon website or really anywhere online" camp.  The young lady needs to see a certified therapist ASAP.  Reading a few pages online or a book here and there is not going to come close to the benefit that can be had from a certified therapist who has an encylopedic knowledge of these things.  This is something far to important to trust to anecdotal advice.

bts 

2006-03-24 8:30 AM
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First, prayers and best wishes to the young lady, her family and friends.

It seems to me that teenage girls are more critical on themselves and on others and as a result, lead to various problems. Am I generalizing? I hardly remember what it was like being a teenager now.

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2006-03-24 8:38 AM
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My young friend and I were talking until almost 1am last night. So much pain and tears for someone so young - it's painful to see. She is ambivalent about therapy - on the one hand she wants to start NOW and other the other hand she is defiant about needing therapy. She's so confused. During our long talk, she experienced the urge to cut herself - she said she gets a sick feeling in her stomache when the feeling comes on. Talking and alot of crying seemed to help her ride it out. I told her that anytime she felt that urge coming on, she is to walk straight over to my house and start talking. If I'm not home, she is to call me on my cell. Stop-gap until she can get in to see a therapist.

Her mom's going to try to book an appointment with a therapist today.

2006-03-24 8:49 AM
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Be careful throwing aroung diagnoses. Not everyone with a cough has lung cancer.

Bettylou - 2006-03-23 10:36 PM Borderline Personality Disorder. Check out: http://www.bpdcentral.com/ It's a great site and it helped me when dealing with a close friend who suffered from this. You are a good friend for wanting to help.



2006-03-24 9:09 AM
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what jim said. best to leave diagnosis (if there even is one - she may just be going through a tough time in her life) to people who know what they're talking about.
2006-03-24 9:11 AM
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COgirl - 2006-03-23 8:59 PM

Hi Renee - this website has good basic info: http://kidshealth.org/teen/your_mind/mental_health/cutting.html

Good luck.....it's great that this girl knew that she needed to talk to someone.  A very impt first step!

Thank you, Cathy. This is the kind of resource I was looking for.

2006-03-24 1:01 PM
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Obviously this girl won't benefit from reading a book - a therapist is the way to go. However - for people wondering where THEY can learn about stuff like this, a book can help.
2006-03-24 3:05 PM
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She has an appointment with a therapist on Monday. Yay!

2006-03-24 3:07 PM
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Renee - My cousin has just completed a series of therapies for her cutting/eating disorder.  If you would like, I can give you my cousin's email address.  She might have some suggestions on how to help your friend. 

Edited by katieyows 2006-03-24 3:07 PM


2006-03-24 5:06 PM
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good. wonderful. now let's keep our fingers crossed that the therapist is a good match.
2006-03-25 1:53 AM
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Renee,

I have personal experience in this area, and still have the scars. (and the problem) However, I have some sites and books that would probably be helpful for you and the parents of the girl to help with understanding, even if the are not appropriate for the kid.

A Bright Red Scream by Marilee Strong, San Francisco Focus, November 1993

http://vinland.org/scamp/institute/dsh.html

http://www.palace.net/~llama/psych/what.html

Cutting: Understanding and Overcoming Self-Mutilation -- by Steven Levenkron

All of these sites and books are pretty good for information, there is alot of writing out there about it, under different names, SI or self injury, cutting, and it can take alot of different forms.

Read up on the information, but dont push the topic unless they approach you, be understanding and listen for cues, finding out what their triggers are. Friends are what help alot, and also having people that don't totally freak out and just jump to the fact that you are crazy.

Therapy is good, even if it is hard for her to talk about, even just going and talking even if the topic of self-injury does not come up, its healthy to go!

feel free to pm me if you want. I will keep you and your young friend in my prayers!

Jamie 

 

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