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2012-02-09 1:28 PM in reply to: #4035964 |
Champion 10471 Dallas, TX | Subject: RE: Need dating tips - recently single after 12 years Renee - 2012-02-08 11:49 AM mr2tony - 2012-02-08 6:50 AM Renee - 2012-02-07 2:57 PM Sometimes it IS you. I have friends, male and female, who are constantly being dumped by person after person for the same reason. And then they have the cajones/chichis to say `What is his/her PROBLEM!?' I want to say `Your psychosis.' but I usually don't. Disclaimer: This has nothing to do with you, Apotheosis, or you, Renee. I'm just pointing out that sometimes you have start with the man in the mirror and ask him to change his ways.Apotheosis - 2012-02-07 3:34 PM Renee - She texted you because she wanted a little attention, some positive reinforcement - IOW, she wanted you to butter her butt, so that she needn't feel rejected/inadequate. She hasn't responded to you, aka ignoring you. Take it at face value - ignoring you = I'm not interested or you're not interesting (same thing). Or, maybe she thinks you should chase her harder; her butt needs more butter. You were on the fence, the first date was "ok," and now you're being ignored after she prompted you for some attention. You're not confused. ETA: Girls are confusing. Women are not. I'm not? Oh, ok then. Thank you for clearing that up. Well, there's understanding what you are receiving (or not) and then there's accepting what you are receiving (or not). I can't help you with the acceptance part, though I tried when I recommended that you take it (accept it) at face value. If you are still not getting it ... she is who she appears to be. She has demonstrated that she will prompt you for attention, and then ignore you when you deliver. Is that really confusing? It's a lot easier to deal with when you start accepting at face value what people do/say, especially the negative stuff. E.g, "Why does my boyfriend throw verbal bombs when we argue? He knows it hurts me." Because he's a bomb thrower and he means to hurt you. Or "Why would my boyfriend cheat on me?" Because he's a cheat. Saves a lot of second-guessing yourself. It's not you - it's really them. FWIW. YMMV. FDIC. Context: The IS that we are talking about is someone else's behavior. I'm not responsible for someone else's behavior. I'm responsible for my behavior. If someone behaves badly towards me, that's about them, not me. Whether they feel justified is irrelevant. If someone cheats on you, it's them. They are a cheat. If someone habitually lies to you, it's them. They have a problem speaking truth. If someone steals from you, it's them. They have it in them to steal. If someone texts you, prompting you for attention, you then give them attention and then they don't ignore you, it's them. Please don't assume that means I'm saying the other party is blameless in all ways. We are all responsible for our own behavior. It just means that if you take things at face value, especially if you are just getting to know someone, you usually have the answer right in front of you. For example: My boyfriend lies to me because that's who he is - a liar, a dishonest person, someone for whom lying is not a problem, someone who finds it difficult to speak truth (take your pick). Too often we blame ourselves for someone else's bad behavior. I had a badly behaving ex-boyfriend many years ago. I drove myself crazy trying to understand what triggered his behavior, what I might be doing to set him off. Then one sunny day, after a horrible lunch date together, it hit me. He behaves badly towards me because he behaves badly. It's not about me; that's him. That's who he is. Made things so much clearer. I never felt so calm in breaking up with someone. I don't disagree with the gist of what you wrote, but within the context of my response it doesn't apply. I dated a few losers in my life. I finally came to terms that they were being the best human they could be. And it was pretty sh@tty. That's all they had to give this world... and me. It certainly did help me come to terms with how badly they treated and acted towards me. Some people just aren't capable of being good people. |
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2012-02-09 1:52 PM in reply to: #4038472 |
Buttercup 14334 | Subject: RE: Need dating tips - recently single after 12 years KSH - 2012-02-09 2:28 PM I dated a few losers in my life. I finally came to terms that they were being the best human they could be. And it was pretty sh@tty. That's all they had to give this world... and me. It certainly did help me come to terms with how badly they treated and acted towards me. Some people just aren't capable of being good people. I agree with this, and my belief is reinforced by the teachings of a number of Buddhist monks. It seems to me that it must be very sad and dark to be that person. It's not my cross to bear, unless I'm foolish enough to let it be put upon me. Then that would be all on me. I remember having this calm conversation (well, it was a conversation on my side). My ex boyfriend was ranting and making excuses for himself. I simply said "Yes, I understand. This is the best you can do. I get that. I'm not condemning you for it, but I'm not sticking around for more of it." His intention, of course, was to engage me in the fight, to escalate the drama, to provoke any kind of emotion out of me. No thanks, I don't do drama. As I like to say to my mistakes "I love you, I just need to love you from afar." Our ten year break-up is going strong! Edited by Renee 2012-02-09 2:11 PM |
2012-02-10 1:46 PM in reply to: #4025887 |
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2012-02-10 7:18 PM in reply to: #4038526 |
Extreme Veteran 554 Maryland | Subject: RE: Need dating tips - recently single after 12 years Renee - 2012-02-09 1:52 PM KSH - 2012-02-09 2:28 PM I dated a few losers in my life. I finally came to terms that they were being the best human they could be. And it was pretty sh@tty. That's all they had to give this world... and me. It certainly did help me come to terms with how badly they treated and acted towards me. Some people just aren't capable of being good people. I agree with this, and my belief is reinforced by the teachings of a number of Buddhist monks It seems to me that it must be very sad and dark to be that person. It's not my cross to bear, unless I'm foolish enough to let it be put upon me. Then that would be all on me. I remember having this calm conversation (well, it was a conversation on my side). My ex boyfriend was ranting and making excuses for himself. I simply said "Yes, I understand. This is the best you can do. I get that. I'm not condemning you for it, but I'm not sticking around for more of it." His intention, of course, was to engage me in the fight, to escalate the drama, to provoke any kind of emotion out of me. No thanks, I don't do drama. As I like to say to my mistakes "I love you, I just need to love you from afar." Our ten year break-up is going strong!
Thank you !!! these words i would have used myself. |
2012-02-11 7:14 AM in reply to: #4025887 |
Champion 6503 NOVA - Ironic for an Endurance Athlete | Subject: RE: Need dating tips - recently single after 12 years Sign up for a beer mile. And let your friends set you up. They aren't all going to be home runs, but you may have some fun in the meanwhile. |
2012-02-11 7:18 AM in reply to: #4041724 |
Champion 6503 NOVA - Ironic for an Endurance Athlete | Subject: RE: Need dating tips - recently single after 12 years pga_mike - 2012-02-11 7:14 AM Sign up for a beer mile. And let your friends set you up. They aren't all going to be home runs, but you may have some fun in the meanwhile. And listen to Tony's advice. If you see how fantastic his girlfriend is, he is obviously doing SOMETHING right. Note: I did something right as well, but I've been with my wife for 23 years. |
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2012-02-11 10:31 AM in reply to: #4041731 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Need dating tips - recently single after 12 years pga_mike - 2012-02-11 7:18 AM pga_mike - 2012-02-11 7:14 AM Sign up for a beer mile. And let your friends set you up. They aren't all going to be home runs, but you may have some fun in the meanwhile. And listen to Tony's advice. If you see how fantastic his girlfriend is, he is obviously doing SOMETHING right. Note: I did something right as well, but I've been with my wife for 23 years. Thanks Mike she is pretty and awesome and hot and such. She only likes me because of my money and sweet car and my height. And she likes sushi. Congrats on your 23 years! |
2012-02-11 11:58 AM in reply to: #4041925 |
Champion 10550 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Need dating tips - recently single after 12 years mr2tony - 2012-02-11 10:31 AM Don't forget that I'm also using you for your citizenship! In all honesty, this relationship is so much better than what I had before. We laugh together, respect each other and have mutual interests, but we're also are fine with spending time apart. We talk about things - and can agree to disagree (as we are now). I feel like I can completely be my goofy self and not have to try/pretend to be someone I'm not just to please another person. Thanks so much Mike & congrats to you and your wife! pga_mike - 2012-02-11 7:18 AM Thanks Mike she is pretty and awesome and hot and such. She only likes me because of my money and sweet car and my height. And she likes sushi.Congrats on your 23 years! pga_mike - 2012-02-11 7:14 AM Sign up for a beer mile. And let your friends set you up. They aren't all going to be home runs, but you may have some fun in the meanwhile. And listen to Tony's advice. If you see how fantastic his girlfriend is, he is obviously doing SOMETHING right. Note: I did something right as well, but I've been with my wife for 23 years. |
2012-02-11 11:58 AM in reply to: #4041925 |
Champion 6503 NOVA - Ironic for an Endurance Athlete | Subject: RE: Need dating tips - recently single after 12 years mr2tony - 2012-02-11 10:31 AM pga_mike - 2012-02-11 7:18 AM Thanks Mike she is pretty and awesome and hot and such. She only likes me because of my money and sweet car and my height. And she likes sushi. Congrats on your 23 years! pga_mike - 2012-02-11 7:14 AM Sign up for a beer mile. And let your friends set you up. They aren't all going to be home runs, but you may have some fun in the meanwhile. And listen to Tony's advice. If you see how fantastic his girlfriend is, he is obviously doing SOMETHING right. Note: I did something right as well, but I've been with my wife for 23 years. Umm, aren't you a writer? |
2012-02-12 3:41 AM in reply to: #4042029 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Need dating tips - recently single after 12 years pga_mike - 2012-02-11 11:58 AM mr2tony - 2012-02-11 10:31 AM pga_mike - 2012-02-11 7:18 AM Thanks Mike she is pretty and awesome and hot and such. She only likes me because of my money and sweet car and my height. And she likes sushi. Congrats on your 23 years! pga_mike - 2012-02-11 7:14 AM Sign up for a beer mile. And let your friends set you up. They aren't all going to be home runs, but you may have some fun in the meanwhile. And listen to Tony's advice. If you see how fantastic his girlfriend is, he is obviously doing SOMETHING right. Note: I did something right as well, but I've been with my wife for 23 years. Umm, aren't you a writer? Amongst other things. |
2012-02-13 8:23 AM in reply to: #4041731 |
Champion 12759 Chicago | Subject: RE: Need dating tips - recently single after 12 years pga_mike - 2012-02-11 7:18 AM pga_mike - 2012-02-11 7:14 AM Sign up for a beer mile. And let your friends set you up. They aren't all going to be home runs, but you may have some fun in the meanwhile. And listen to Tony's advice. If you see how fantastic his girlfriend is, he is obviously doing SOMETHING right. Note: I did something right as well, but I've been with my wife for 23 years. Mike-23 years with your wife, that is true success! Saw you guys on FB and you did good!!!
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2012-02-13 12:56 PM in reply to: #4041731 |
Veteran 113 Charlotte, NC, metro | Subject: RE: Need dating tips - recently single after 12 years pga_mike - 2012-02-11 8:18 AM Note: I did something right as well, but I've been with my wife for 23 years.
That unquestionably qualifies you as someone to be listened to. Congratulations! |
2012-02-13 1:59 PM in reply to: #4044899 |
Champion 11989 Philly 'burbs | Subject: RE: Need dating tips - recently single after 12 years TeacherAmy - 2012-02-13 1:56 PM pga_mike - 2012-02-11 8:18 AM Note: I did something right as well, but I've been with my wife for 23 years.
That unquestionably qualifies you as someone to be listened to. Congratulations! About marriage, sure. But dating? Maybe he's been married for 23 years because he's really bad at dating |
2012-02-13 7:20 PM in reply to: #4045086 |
Veteran 113 Charlotte, NC, metro | Subject: RE: Need dating tips - recently single after 12 years mrbbrad - 2012-02-13 2:59 PM TeacherAmy - 2012-02-13 1:56 PM pga_mike - 2012-02-11 8:18 AM Note: I did something right as well, but I've been with my wife for 23 years.
That unquestionably qualifies you as someone to be listened to. Congratulations! About marriage, sure. But dating? Maybe he's been married for 23 years because he's really bad at dating
LMBO!!!! |
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