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2012-07-25 4:17 PM
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tri808 - 2012-07-25 12:25 PM

I have a hard time putting it into words, but I strongly disagree with everything the NCAA has done to punish PSU.  The wrong people are handing out the punishment, the wrong people are being punished, and the victims are seeing none of the benefit.

 

I disagree.  This is probably not the place for it, and I know Fred does not want to read it, so I'll leave it at that, but the $60M is going (allegedly) to abuse programs.  The victims are going to clean up in their lawsuits, if you were worried about the victims getting money.  PSU will pay out the nose and will never let testimony see the light of day (if they're smart).



2012-07-25 4:18 PM
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Fred D - 2012-07-25 10:08 AM Ok, my run and swim are coming back and I'm getting really excited about IMMT, almost as excited as I was for my first IMLP as I have no expectations on my performance aside from have fun. Then I found out my cannondale slice (highest model 2010) has a big problem in the frame where the rear brake attaches. It has been rubbing a lot and is no longer safe. I was preparing to ride my road bike with clip-on bars as I am not going to buy a brand new bike right now. My LBS is awesome! They called cannondale and the whole frame is going to be warrantied!!!!!!!!!! Can you believe this? I always believe in supporting the LBS and this is the type of reason that I do so. Ope fully get the new frame built up by the weekend. I have my seat post marked to the right level already and the front cockpit should be a snap to dial in. Very pleased.

 

Excellent news all around, very very glad to hear it!!!!

2012-07-25 4:25 PM
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Catwoman - 2012-07-25 10:11 AM Found it. I have a bike test on the schedule for this week. The standard 5/20 minute test protocol. It will be indoors on the trainer. The 5 minute test is never a problem as I can do anything for that long. But I always seem to go out too hard on the 20 minute test and fade towards the end. The numbers from my 5 minute tests are always a lot higher than the 20 minute test. Would it be better to build towards the end of the test? Or try to maintain steady power throughout the entire test? Ride at a known reasonably harder wattage for the first half and then ramp it up every few minutes? Any other helpful hints and suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Just my .02.  I think especially if you don't have a lot of recent experience, you likely need to build into it.  AS you said, blowing up 5 minutes in isn't good.  Build may not give you the most accurate number, but it's better than a DNF.  I also wouldn't necessarily give a sset "ramp up" time, unless it's something like Fred suggest, ie., breaking it into halfs.  You should be in gut wrenching 100$ survival mode by minute 16.....

I have done one 5 minute test (or maybe it was three?)  Anyway, I figured how hard could it be for that short a time???  holy shyte... 

2012-07-25 4:53 PM
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ChrisM - 2012-07-25 2:25 PM

Catwoman - 2012-07-25 10:11 AM Found it. I have a bike test on the schedule for this week. The standard 5/20 minute test protocol. It will be indoors on the trainer. The 5 minute test is never a problem as I can do anything for that long. But I always seem to go out too hard on the 20 minute test and fade towards the end. The numbers from my 5 minute tests are always a lot higher than the 20 minute test. Would it be better to build towards the end of the test? Or try to maintain steady power throughout the entire test? Ride at a known reasonably harder wattage for the first half and then ramp it up every few minutes? Any other helpful hints and suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Just my .02.  I think especially if you don't have a lot of recent experience, you likely need to build into it.  AS you said, blowing up 5 minutes in isn't good.  Build may not give you the most accurate number, but it's better than a DNF.  I also wouldn't necessarily give a sset "ramp up" time, unless it's something like Fred suggest, ie., breaking it into halfs.  You should be in gut wrenching 100$ survival mode by minute 16.....

I have done one 5 minute test (or maybe it was three?)  Anyway, I figured how hard could it be for that short a time???  holy shyte... 

Also if you consistently track your rides on something like Golden Cheetah, you can look at your power curve in relation to time.  That'll give you a rough idea of what your starting points should be for various testing spans.

2012-07-25 5:22 PM
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2012-07-25 5:26 PM
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Fred D - 2012-07-25 3:25 PM
ChrisM - 2012-07-25 5:25 PM

Catwoman - 2012-07-25 10:11 AM Found it. I have a bike test on the schedule for this week. The standard 5/20 minute test protocol. It will be indoors on the trainer. The 5 minute test is never a problem as I can do anything for that long. But I always seem to go out too hard on the 20 minute test and fade towards the end. The numbers from my 5 minute tests are always a lot higher than the 20 minute test. Would it be better to build towards the end of the test? Or try to maintain steady power throughout the entire test? Ride at a known reasonably harder wattage for the first half and then ramp it up every few minutes? Any other helpful hints and suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Just my .02.  I think especially if you don't have a lot of recent experience, you likely need to build into it.  AS you said, blowing up 5 minutes in isn't good.  Build may not give you the most accurate number, but it's better than a DNF.  I also wouldn't necessarily give a sset "ramp up" time, unless it's something like Fred suggest, ie., breaking it into halfs.  You should be in gut wrenching 100$ survival mode by minute 16.....

I have done one 5 minute test (or maybe it was three?)  Anyway, I figured how hard could it be for that short a time???  holy shyte... 

Yeah I think thats why I don't test very much as I dislike it so much.'

Truthfully if you ride enough you get an idea of what is sustainable for X amount of time anyways.

My only real tests are Strava segments around town, but the pro (Cat 1) cyclists are now on to it and I am struggling to keep any KOMs

I'm lucky if I hit top 10 on segments in my area.  LOTS of riders out here, some of whom are very strong indeed.

2012-07-25 5:40 PM
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I have looked at the top 10 or 15 guys on some of my climbs.  Not even the top guy mind you....

the names that pop up are distressing, LOL.  No KOMs for me.  By 10s of minutes....

freddie rodriguez

ben king

ted king

simon whitfield

jesse anthony

2012-07-25 5:43 PM
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2012-07-25 5:44 PM
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ChrisM - 2012-07-25 6:40 PM

I have looked at the top 10 or 15 guys on some of my climbs.  Not even the top guy mind you....

the names that pop up are distressing, LOL.  No KOMs for me.  By 10s of minutes....

freddie rodriguez

ben king

ted king

simon whitfield

jesse anthony

You can't take a KOM from that scrub?  Slacker. 

that's the thing, he ain't even the king! 



2012-07-25 5:45 PM
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ChrisM - 2012-07-25 3:40 PM

I have looked at the top 10 or 15 guys on some of my climbs.  Not even the top guy mind you....

the names that pop up are distressing, LOL.  No KOMs for me.  By 10s of minutes....

freddie rodriguez

ben king

ted king

simon whitfield

jesse anthony

Check out #3...

http://app.strava.com/rides/13700383#250549195

Yeah she's that fast.

2012-07-25 5:47 PM
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2012-07-25 6:27 PM
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spudone - 2012-07-25 6:45 PM
ChrisM - 2012-07-25 3:40 PM

I have looked at the top 10 or 15 guys on some of my climbs.  Not even the top guy mind you....

the names that pop up are distressing, LOL.  No KOMs for me.  By 10s of minutes....

freddie rodriguez

ben king

ted king

simon whitfield

jesse anthony

Check out #3...

http://app.strava.com/rides/13700383#250549195

Yeah she's that fast.

 

Probable a tail wind that day. 

 

2012-07-25 6:29 PM
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TSimone - 2012-07-25 7:14 PM

Fred D - 2012-07-25 6:49 PM
TSimone - 2012-07-25 6:44 PMFor those of you with Wheelbuilder covers, do you use the plastic screws that come with it or tape, or both?  Fedex was good to me today.
. I use both, actually it's reasonably complicated. You need to tape the inside of the cover that is on the cassette side to the spokes to avoid any rubbing when from the chain or cassette. Tape the spokes to the inside of the cover on the drive side. Then use the screws, then I add some tape to the rim areas as well.

Thanks Fred.  That'll give me something to do tomorrow.

James - Threw my tires in the dryer for a couple of minutes and then stretched them a bit.  Made a big difference.  Not easy but I sure wasn't fighting with them, either.  Appreciate the tip.

Now you got to explain the rubber smell and skid marks to your wife. 

 

2012-07-25 6:42 PM
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Fred D - 2012-07-25 12:50 PM
ChrisM - 2012-07-25 6:44 PM
TSimone - 2012-07-25 3:43 PM
ChrisM - 2012-07-25 6:40 PM

I have looked at the top 10 or 15 guys on some of my climbs.  Not even the top guy mind you....

the names that pop up are distressing, LOL.  No KOMs for me.  By 10s of minutes....

freddie rodriguez

ben king

ted king

simon whitfield

jesse anthony

You can't take a KOM from that scrub?  Slacker. 

that's the thing, he ain't even the king! 

. Pro cyclists can usually mop up even elite triathlete cyclists.

Yup, I think Lance proved that even ex pro cyclists can mop up elite triathlete cyclists.

2012-07-25 6:42 PM
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Jason - total long shot here, but you have any contacts in Maui?  Heading there day after tomorrow for a week.  I know where my local pool is, but cannot for the life of me find any OW swimming resources...  i'd prefer to go with a group, but I've emailed the people I could find on line, posted in teh Hawaii forum, nothing, nada, zilch.  I find that very odd.....

Anyway, just thought I'd throw it out there

2012-07-25 7:09 PM
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ChrisM - 2012-07-25 1:42 PM

Jason - total long shot here, but you have any contacts in Maui?  Heading there day after tomorrow for a week.  I know where my local pool is, but cannot for the life of me find any OW swimming resources...  i'd prefer to go with a group, but I've emailed the people I could find on line, posted in teh Hawaii forum, nothing, nada, zilch.  I find that very odd.....

Anyway, just thought I'd throw it out there

Sorry Chris...I don't know anyone that trains out in Maui.  I've only been there about 5 times, and most of it was before I was into S/B/R, so I'm not even sure where are the good places to swim.

Dionmaui is a BTer that lives there, but I'm not sure she's active on BT anymore.  Maybe you can try sending her a PM if you haven't already.

Maybe try giving the local bike or dive shops a call?



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2012-07-25 7:58 PM
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Fred D - 2012-07-25 6:49 PM
TSimone - 2012-07-25 6:44 PMFor those of you with Wheelbuilder covers, do you use the plastic screws that come with it or tape, or both?  Fedex was good to me today.
. I use both, actually it's reasonably complicated. You need to tape the inside of the cover that is on the cassette side to the spokes to avoid any rubbing when from the chain or cassette. Tape the spokes to the inside of the cover on the drive side. Then use the screws, then I add some tape to the rim areas as well.

Keep in mind that you can only do this on a deep wheel - on a box rim there is nowhere to tape, so I just use the screws.  Zero issues to date for me.  X2 on taping the drive side from the inside.

2012-07-25 8:44 PM
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Fred D - 2012-07-25 2:42 PM Is it uncommon for people in Hawaii who live on one island to visit te other islands?

Interisland travel isn't exactly cheap.  Flights start at $80, and go up to $180 one way.  So it's not worth it just to go for one day.  So you usually make a vacation out of it...at least a couple of days.  But then you tack on hotel and car...and quickly it comes out to a $500 per person trip at the minimum...sometimes much more depending on what you plan to do.  So it's not something most people can afford to do very often.

The people who do travel often to other islands usually have family or friends there.  So if they can get picked up at the airport, borrow a car, and stay over at someone's house, that makes it much more affordable to travel more often.

All of my family is here on Oahu, so anytime I visit another island...it's pretty much like taking a vacation.  I think I've been to other islands a total of about 12 times.  People in Hawaii also love to go to Vegas.  We call Vegas our 9th island...as the cost to go to Vegas (through package deal) is often cheaper to go to another island.  You can get a 4 night deal with air and hotel to vegas for about $700.

2012-07-25 8:46 PM
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GoFaster - 2012-07-25 2:58 PM

Fred D - 2012-07-25 6:49 PM
TSimone - 2012-07-25 6:44 PMFor those of you with Wheelbuilder covers, do you use the plastic screws that come with it or tape, or both?  Fedex was good to me today.
. I use both, actually it's reasonably complicated. You need to tape the inside of the cover that is on the cassette side to the spokes to avoid any rubbing when from the chain or cassette. Tape the spokes to the inside of the cover on the drive side. Then use the screws, then I add some tape to the rim areas as well.

Keep in mind that you can only do this on a deep wheel - on a box rim there is nowhere to tape, so I just use the screws.  Zero issues to date for me.  X2 on taping the drive side from the inside.

I guess it depends on how the cover is cut and what type of rim you have.  Most covers I have seen still have a 5 mm gap between the edge of the cover and the brake track...even on standard training rims.

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