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I always do them when swimming more than one length.29 Votes - [48.33%]
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2015-10-14 3:53 PM
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Subject: RE: Do you do flip turns ?
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All I will say is watch swimmers that are good, and do what they do]




Pee in the pool like Ryan Lochte and smoke a joint like Phelps ?


There are two types of swimmers; those that pee in the pool, and those that lie about not peeing in the pool.


Funny.. I've always said that about people that wear wetsuits...

Oh, and I always do flip turns (except some drill sets when I'm move super slow). Which is funny, because I refused to do them in high school practice.


2015-10-14 4:13 PM
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Subject: RE: Do you do flip turns ?

Originally posted by tjones2k9
Originally posted by 3mar
Originally posted by marcag
Originally posted by ChrisM All I will say is watch swimmers that are good, and do what they do]
Pee in the pool like Ryan Lochte and smoke a joint like Phelps ?
There are two types of swimmers; those that pee in the pool, and those that lie about not peeing in the pool.
Funny.. I've always said that about people that wear wetsuits... Oh, and I always do flip turns (except some drill sets when I'm move super slow). Which is funny, because I refused to do them in high school practice.

And, that didn't get you hit in the head with a pull buoy or everyone in your lane told to re-start the set?? 

 

2015-10-14 4:41 PM
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Subject: RE: Do you do flip turns ?
Originally posted by coreyasaur

Never learned to do them, get water up my nose when I try.

I figure I'll never do a flip turn in an OWS, so no loss...


I had the same problem and figured out how to fix it:
Problem: I started to exhale (through the nose) at the moment I started the flip. So by the time I was "upside down" I was already done with exhaling, meaning - water easily entered my nose.
Solution: the moment I started the flip I was just focusing on what was going on and started exhaling just a nano-second before i was about to be "upside down". This way the air from my nose "attacked" the oncoming water and absolutely not even a drop came to my nose.

I hope this explanation makes sense. It worked awesome for me, I truly hope you will find a way to do it too
Mary

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2015-10-14 6:49 PM
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Subject: RE: Do you do flip turns ?
True story. I exhale during the flip and don't have a problem. The only reason I do them sometimes is because one side of my pool is only 3 feet deep and that scares me while flipping.
2015-10-15 8:04 AM
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Thanks everyone, this is all really helpful. I think I will keep doing them and try to get better at them. Not sure I can pull it off on the bike though.
2015-10-16 9:15 AM
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Subject: RE: Do you do flip turns ?
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Originally posted by martymo When I first learned to swim at the young age of 30, my teacher insisted that I learn flip turns because she said it would keep me more focused and help me build endurance. I keep doing them because I feel like I lose so much momentum when I do an open turn. Is it possible I never learned open turns properly? For that matter, is "open turn" the right term for coming up for a breath and pushing off the wall?

Yes, they're called open turns.  It does sound like you're never learned to do a good open turn.  Done well, they're only a few tenths of a second slower than a flip turn.  Stay low in the water, touch the wall, drop your shoulder away from the wall as you flip your feet towards the wall, then push off hard in a tight streamline as you do in a flip turn.  There's no hanging on the wall or taking multiple breaths.  There isn't time for that.

Here's a good video of open turns with Rebecca Soni doing breast stroke, but it's similar if you're doing front crawl:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD6-HmQtMkw

 

 




Thanks! You're absolutely right...I never learned them. As soon as I could swim more than one length my teacher had me start working on flip turns. I might practice some open turns for those occasions when I'm afraid of crashing into my lane partner!


2015-10-17 7:09 AM
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Only when I'm swimming TI and I don't have a CrossFit class later in the day.

2015-10-17 7:41 AM
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Is it worth learning them for someone who has a lot of technique issues to work on? In other words, if I spend the time learning to do flip turns, is the time that I would lose where I could work on technique going to be worth the training advantage gained by not losing momentum once I get the flip turn down?
2015-10-17 12:44 PM
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Subject: RE: Do you do flip turns ?

Originally posted by b2run Is it worth learning them for someone who has a lot of technique issues to work on? In other words, if I spend the time learning to do flip turns, is the time that I would lose where I could work on technique going to be worth the training advantage gained by not losing momentum once I get the flip turn down?

If you are working on technique, you still have to turn around at the wall somehow.  just make them (or some of them) flip turns.  There is no need to spend any significant time just learning how to flip.  At most you spend a few minutes the first time doing flips in the middle of the pool to get used to the motion.

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