BT's Route Tracker...IT'S HERE!!!! (Page 2)

devouahy,

The elevation graph is with respect to the origin and is the actual route profile, so yes, there will be positive and negative elevations (which will equal each other) to return you to your original point (what goes up, must come down).  The reported 'Total elevation' or 'Climbing' is the sum of all the 'positive' elevations.  Assuming I'm reading your question correctly.

I can look at it more if you give me the name of the route.

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/map-routemgr.asp?memberid=49889

Thanks. The profile to the question was "Red Rock Visitor Center Loop - 32 miles".

All the other profiles look good except for one  "Southest bike shop loop" which is a slow gradual climbing slop on the way out, and mostly all slow downhill on the way back. Some how, the climb data jumps from 260 feet to 2000+ feet in less than a few point, which I know is wrong. Can you please assist on that profile. If you look at the side profile, it should only be around 800 feet or so for the whole ride.

That's all from me, and thanks for the great work on this task.

Just to echo the thousands before me.

This is one of the coolest additions yet to a truly excellent site.

Many thanks to both Ron and marmadaddy!

I quickly entered three routes, and greatly appreciate the total elevation gain.  No more having to figure it out on my own.

Will there be a way to save races to a publicly accessible area in the future?  It would be great to look at actual course elevations before doing a race to better know what you're getting into.

Thanks again! 

devouahy,

For route http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/map.asp?routeid=684

We will have Mike input on this...i see where the data is represented on the map, but that elevation change is not being reflected in the elevation graph...so I don't know what's going on

I think it's with the 'climbing' calculation as the absolute elevation (above sea level) values between the two points don't show that difference....it shows up in the total climb data, the hover box, but not in the graph.  It's like the point in question is adding the absolute elevation back into the 'climbing' value for all remaining points...

Here is the attached pic with the 2 points in question:

ALSO, here is the math to this problem:

*For the second point (first one on the map), subtracting 'above sea level' from 'climb' you get 2934-2645=289 feet,  This difference corresponds ALMOST to the first points 'climb' value of 260 plus the elevation change between the two points (2645-2618=27feet)...this is how we calculate 'climb'...SO that second point (first on the map) should have a calculated climb of: 260+27=287 feet ...its off by about 2 feet from 289 probably due to rounding or kept decimal places.

So somehow at that point, it ADDS back in the absolute value of the elevation to the climb value...which is wrong...

Marmadaddy will figure out the issue....

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Ron,

     If you look into the lists that I have, I have remaped the course labeling it "Southwest Bike Shop Loop - 19 miles". When you no longer need the old one that shows the wrong elevation, just email me so that I can delete the bad profile. Thanks.

Thank you, thank you and thank you!!! This is fantastic!

Buh-bye Runningmap!

This. Is. Freakin. AWESOME.

I'm happy to pay for a membership with features like this. 

Thanks again Ron, Marma, et. al.

Tom

Once you build-up a lot of routes, the NEW 'filter' that we just added in the route-manager will be nice.

Filter by: All, Swim, Bike, Run, Brick, Race

Sort by: Date created, Frequency Used and  Name.

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/map-routemgr.asp

For some reason I can't get it to work for me here, I'll keep playing around with it.

I'm guessing it's the route planner from http://www.gmap-pedometer.com if so, is it going to be possible to save the URL to your route planner, if not, then forget I said anything.

This is a 2K loop I use near my home http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=690611it would be fairly cool to be able to plan your route on the big main site and just save the r= number.

Can you be more specific about how it doesn't work?

We don't use gmap-pedometer.com in any way. Our route tracker is built on the Google Maps API as is that site which is why they look similar. We get our maps from the same place: Google.

For legal and contractual reasons, the Google Maps API doesn't allow searches for addresses in the UK. Some sites are using workarounds for this, but they appear to be in violation of the Google Maps Terms of Use. There are also some pay services that charge on a 'per search' basis but they're relatively expensive.

It would be pretty cynical, not to mention unethical, of us to use the Google Maps service for free and then violate their Terms of Use, so I'm going to keep looking for a legal, practical means of getting the Locate box to work for UK addresses. In the mean time you should be able to navigate to the UK directly and save any routes you create.

marmadaddy,

I just tried to route a ~22 mile bike route and two things:

1. After 8-10 miles or so it became slow in responding, then after 15-18 miles painfully slow.
2. On saving it, I did not put in a city and it popped up asking for a city name.  I do it and it saved.  I check my routes and there are 2 routes of the smae routes saved, one without the city name and one with the city name.  Is the city name required or not?

FYI, I can lay the same bike route on Gmaps without any slowing of the application...

I have nothing but IE open.

Oh, on emore thing, could it be possible to sort the routes by type instead of just the name?

 1. Yeah, I've become aware of this. I'm in the process of creating version 2 which is going to be much faster with longer routes.

 2. Saving: this should be an easy fix.

 3. Sorting on the Route Manager page is coming. 

You can sort by type, name, frequency and date created...it's in the left column of the route manager.

FILTER

There is 'Show:' - All, swim, bike, run, brick, race

Then below it is 'Type:' - Date, freq and name

...I hope I'm not missing something and it's 'hidden' from everyone except me...

I was looking for the Show 'All' then a secondary 'Type' sort so that they grouped together by the type not by name/date/freq.