Subject: RE: don't taser me, don't taser me, please... briderdt - 2007-09-19 7:50 AM "One more point: I don't blame cops for being a bit over cautious; this guy could easily have pulled a knife, then who here would be saying the taser was overkill?" You're kidding, right? Oh, yeah, he could have easily pulled a gun instead, so they'd be justified to use deadly force, too, by that definition. My opinion has been solidified by an incident here in Phx yesterday. A police officer was shot and killed when he approached a jaywalker! Unfortunately, the police don't have the ability to know which people are the nuts with guns and which are just harmless pranksters. "Police say Erfle, 33, and Officer Rob Rodarme were patrolling in a two-man car around 8:30 a.m. Tuesday when they saw three people jaywalking across 24th Street near Pinchot Avenue, interfering with traffic.
The two officers stopped the three, a man and two women, on Pinchot to talk to them and asked for identification. Police rarely issue citations for jaywalking, telling people instead to just cross at a safer spot in the future, Tranter said.
The man didn't have identification but gave officers a name and birth date that Erfle ran through a police computer. That search turned up a misdemeanor warrant for shoplifting out of Tucson.
Police would later find out the man hadn't given his real name. Martinez likely used an alias because he was trying to hide the fact he had felony warrants for aggravated assault and false imprisonment, stemming from a 2006 domestic-violence incident.
But the officers didn't know any of that and tried to arrest him on the misdemeanor warrant.
That's when Martinez shoved Erfle to the ground, pulled a gun and fired multiple times. Police said it all happened in a matter of seconds.
"There was three shots, and there was a pause, and then one more shot," said Bob Newnum, who lives nearby.
Rodarme ran after the fleeing suspect but couldn't return fire because the area was too crowded, Tranter said." http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/0919officershot0919.html
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