http://news.yahoo.com/the-supreme-court-s-obamacare-decision--live-coverage-from-scotusblog.html

maybe will help

not according to what I am seeing.

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Who is John Galt?

Wow... just wow.

So apparently the US government can now force private citizens to buy a product.  This country is hosed.

Bizarre.  cnn.com headline was initial "struck down," now "upheld."  Whoops.

Yes, and appears to open the possibilities of Congress to regulate Commerce via tax penalties.  Basically, if you don't buy X, then you will pay a tax because you didn't.

To me, slippery slope and all...

That already exists on a state level with car insurance. 

Well the upside is I can now drop my HC insurance and save money by paying the tax because I am guaranteed to get insurance when I get cancer or have any serious health issues.  And at least I will beat my employer to dropping my coverage so they can force me onto the government system and pay less as well.  Oh I am so glad we have the rich to do something, I mean as soon as they start paying their fair share life well be great for all us middle class people.  We can have our big houses and our smartphones and our $300 a month data plans and new $40K cars every 5 years and not have to pay for our own HC.  I mean why should I have to give up all the good things in life just to be responsible for my family.

And we wonder about why kids  behave the way they do. What else have we taught them other than it is someone else's fault, someone else's responsibility.

Notice that I said Congress to regulate, not the states.  There is a difference, no?  I'm no lawyer here.

And Car Insurance is not the same thing.  No one is forcing you to purchase a car and buy car insurance, or taxing you if you do not.

On the other hand, you have no choice in being born.  You just are....  I don't have a choice, unless you consider offing myself as an alternative to buying health insurance and paying a tax associated with not.

Stocks Tumble 1% After Health-Care Ruling

http://www.cnbc.com/id/47994090 

I can't believe the mandate was upheld, kind of in shock here.

But Trin has it right. Pay the penalty which will be much less than the ridiculous prices this will drive insurance to, then when you get deathly ill they have to take you. 

And that's a big difference.  Based on this ruling the government could charge you a tax for buying a non-US vehicle.  Or a non-electric vehicle.   Or if you don't put solar panels on your home.

Where do you draw the line...? Oh yeah, this thing called the Constitution.... they circumvented it by calling this a "tax".  Which Obama has said all along that it is not..

I don't think you're alone.

Ironically I think this decision is politically the worst thing that can happen to Obama's reelection campaign.  If it would have been shot down he could have energized his base to give him 4 more years to fix it, but now he can't do that.

On the flip side the republicans will be out in force to vote Obama out of office and repeal the law.  If the law would have been shot down then the motivation wouldn't be as great.  It will also trickle down to Senate and House races.

Can we just make Congress add into the bill that they have to fall under the law as well and they do not get some special treatment for themselves when they are making everyone else follow this?

I know the likelihood of them doing that is equal to the likelihood that they pass a bill with term limits for themselves, but I have to make the rhetorical point...

We have a Political Class and everyone else.  That goes for both parties by the way.