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2009-06-24 7:11 AM
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Subject: RE: Fat, Lazy or Both?
AcesFull - 2009-06-24 6:56 AM

So, am I a lazy-, who needs to run more, or am I just a fat slob who needs to drop another [insert # of pounds here]?  Or are both true?

[/whining]


Is this a rhetorical question?  It sounds like you already know the answer and are just looking to us to say HTFU.
2009-06-24 7:14 AM
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Subject: RE: Fat, Lazy or Both?
My vote - neither!!

You lost 70 lbs - and how long have you kept it off??  If there is anything I've heard about "dieting" is that it's a life style change - not a temporary thing.  I'm guessing that you've managed to keep your weight fairly steady with all the exercise and a reasonable diet.

I am not a triathlete (give me 3 weeks!!), but I have struggled with weight loss and staying active my entire life.  It seems like to me you need to set a goal and work toward it.  And/or - maybe you need a break?!? Like switch up the exercise routine, with cross training or something of the sort.  I'm guessing your running endurance will increase if you do something similar that elevates your heart rate - such as going hiking or even getting on a stairmaster??  Or maybe you need to sign up for a run - so you can concentrate on that??

I always think its funny when I see "fat" or "slow" triathlete...cuz IMHO -- you're still a TRIATHLETE!!  How many people can say they can do that?!?
2009-06-24 7:16 AM
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Subject: RE: Fat, Lazy or Both?
Fat, no.  You may be a few pounds overweight depending on your body structure, but hell, I'm 100 pounds overweight!

If it bothers you that you are so much slower in running then anything else then you need to fix your problem.  Losing a few pounds may help a little, but for the little amount you need to lose it isn't going to make much of a difference.  Like anything else it takes work to get get better.  Unless you have a  physical condition where running is not a good idea,  then I'd say suck it up and get your butt out there and run a little more!

Try finding new routes and mix up your runs a bit.  Keep it interesting.  Try doing intervals to help build yourself up.

Most of all, be proud of what you have accomplished.

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2009-06-24 7:33 AM
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Subject: RE: Fat, Lazy or Both?
AcesFull - 2009-06-24 6:56 AM

Competed in a sprint event last week, 1/5m swim, 15m bike, 5k.  In my AG, I finished 17/49 in the swim, 29/49 in the bike and 45/49 in the run. 

Understand, I'm no stellar swimmer.  At my first tri three years ago, I could not even freestyle the whole 1/4 mile.  Two factors seem to loom here. 

1) I don't run much.  This is largely because I don't enjoy it.  I love a long bike ride, but long runs (and short runsleave me wiped out.  I have other excuses for not running, which I will not list, lest I be labeled as (more of) a whiner.

2) I'm still kinda fat for a triathlete.  Sure, I'm down a 70 lbs (obvious brag), but at 5'8" & 175 lbs, I feel like I'm carrying around weight that is slowing me down a lot on the bike and destroying my run.

So, am I a lazy-, who needs to run more, or am I just a fat slob who needs to drop another [insert # of pounds here]?  Or are both true?

[/whining]

 

are you really asking? If you want to run faster, yes you have to run more and yes losing weight will help...

2009-06-24 7:41 AM
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Subject: RE: Fat, Lazy or Both?

You are lazy.  Get your fat arse out there and run.  If you want to be a triathlete, you have to run....long runs, short runs, fast runs, slow runs, interval runs, hill runs....run, run, run.  If you don't want to run, find another sport.  No sense killing yourself forcing yourself to do something you hate.  OTOH, the more you run, the more you will enjoy it and it will become an integral part of your life. 

BTW, 'fat' has very little to do with desire or love of running.  I love to run and have completed two IM races at over 250 lbs so don't give me this "I'm too fat to run" crap.

Sorry for the harsh tone of this....most of it was tongue in cheek with a wry smile....uh....most of it.  ;-)

~Mike



2009-06-24 7:58 AM
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Subject: RE: Fat, Lazy or Both?
neither.

in your post, you described yourself with words like "fat" and "slob."

You have a negative perception of yourself, which is the root cause of your current problem.  Think positive.  You have lost SEVENTY pounds.  Remove all doubt and replace it with vision of success.

you can HTFU all day long, but it won't matter until you stop referring to yourself as a fat, lazy slob.  When you go out the door for a run, you have already failed because of your perceptions.  

"If you plant ice, you will harvest wind."  --Jerry Garcia
2009-06-24 8:07 AM
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2009-06-24 8:28 AM
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Subject: RE: Fat, Lazy or Both?

AcesFull - 2009-06-24 8:08 AM

Rogillio - 2009-06-24 7:41 AM

You are lazy.  Get your fat arse out there and run.  If you want to be a triathlete, you have to run....long runs, short runs, fast runs, slow runs, interval runs, hill runs....run, run, run.  If you don't want to run, find another sport.  No sense killing yourself forcing yourself to do something you hate.  OTOH, the more you run, the more you will enjoy it and it will become an integral part of your life. 

BTW, 'fat' has very little to do with desire or love of running.  I love to run and have completed two IM races at over 250 lbs so don't give me this "I'm too fat to run" crap.

Sorry for the harsh tone of this....most of it was tongue in cheek with a wry smile....uh....most of it.  ;-)

~Mike

I needed that.  Thanks.

 

Glad I could help!  :-)

2009-06-24 10:32 AM
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Subject: RE: Fat, Lazy or Both?
What percentage of the population can even finish a Tri?

Have you read this thread?


2009-06-24 10:32 AM
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Subject: RE: Fat, Lazy or Both?
I had to double-check just to make sure this wasn't me who posted this thread. I feel nearly the same - lost a bunch of weight, still need to lose more -- though I'm 210 at 5-8 and only wish I was a skinny 175 -- do decent on the swim and bike but BLOW CHUNKS on the run.

I hate the run for the most part. I just started running last year and it was (is) painful and uncomfortable with lots of chunks of flesh and fat seeming to fly everywhere!

I do it (though not enough) cause I have to and I do it cause I want to like it. I've decided to keep cycling and swimming in training 1-3 times a week, but I'm now focusing on the run by training for a half-marathon. That seems quite daunting at the moment, but I think if we heed the advice of others and really work at the run then perhaps the benefits will pay off down the road.

Good job on the 70 LBS!
2009-06-24 10:37 AM
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Subject: RE: Fat, Lazy or Both?

I can completely relate, Dan.  I get mad after a race because I run slower than the other gals (usually top 3rd on bike, bottom 3rd on run) yet know full well I don't run much and could also stand to lose a few.  The trick is deciding 1) do I care enough to change things? or 2) can I give myself a break?  That's for you to decide.  

As Jorge said, there's no doubt running more and losing a few would help.  I don't know if I'd go so far as "fat" and "lazy", but I know you to have a good sense of humor, so I am going to finish this with a resounding YES.

2009-06-24 12:08 PM
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Subject: RE: Fat, Lazy or Both?
When I started running I didn't like it very much.  Now it's my favorite thing to do out of SBR (by a little anyway).  For me, getting a nike chip for my ipod changed things a lot.  I find it motivating to know how far and how fast I'm going and it makes me look forward to runs more.  It was probably the best $30 I have ever spent on fitness as that's what got me into running and eventually into tris.  So, if you're into gadgets, try that for motivation. 
2009-06-24 12:17 PM
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Subject: RE: Fat, Lazy or Both?
My vote is that you're too hard on yourself.  What Jorge said is true but don't forget that getting good at these things takes time for some people. Sure, there are those out there with talent but really getting good at something right away can take a while.   Forget about placing and focus on your own improvements. You've done incredibly well for you.

Maybe I could have been runningfaster ages ago but this is my hobby and in the past I have been happy with BOP-MOP and making incremental improvements.  I recently did my 5th half marathon in 1:50 (an awesome time for me!) when my first one was 2:20 more than 3.5 years ago.  I dropped a half hour but that's over 3.5 years. My body has adapted, I can do more intense workouts without getting hurt ... IMHO incremental improvments are the more sustainable ...

oh and get out there and run!!

Edited by juniperjen 2009-06-24 12:17 PM
2009-06-24 12:40 PM
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Subject: RE: Fat, Lazy or Both?
As far as help in the running department-
I felt i was the world's slowest runner at 13min/mile barely finishing 3 miles.  i hate running.  I am innately lazy as well.  I started this May at 12min/miles and really wanted to get to under 10.  My roommates both run half mary's and kept peppering me with advice and how they feel exhilerated from running and could run for miles... ? i think they are a different species! 

But here's what I finally relented to trying 3 weeks ago:
Sprint a block, walk a block. Repeat.  Until you can sprint a block and jog a block.  I never went more than 3 miles, and maybe did this 2x a week. My first few attempts were very half-hearted.

I finished my tri on Sunday with a 29 min run (3miles). wooo!!!  it worked!
(also my little secret on the run part of the course: whenever anyone passed me I attempted to keep up with them till I was winded and fell back.  Luckily I am a BOP runner and this happened frequently so I got lots of extra "pushes" from passing runners.  I also like to scream things in my head when I sprint like "I'm not slow!", "Pancakes for dinner!" and "Bikini Bikini Bikini!"
lol)


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