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2011-10-19 8:40 AM

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Subject: Kid asking for a ride - WWCOJ do

As I pulled out of my neighborhood this AM (in the pitch black) I see a 12-13ish year old kid flagging me down (have never seen him before but he could have been walking from another street).  I pull over and roll down the window.  He asks me for a ride to his school (about a mile or so away) saying he's going to be late.

Now the school doesn't open till 7 (it was 6:30) so I really doubted he was going to be late.  But who knows maybe there was a special function.

I told him I really couldn't do that for obvious reasons.  He asked again and I told him I couldn't.  I asked if he needed me to call anyone but he sulked off into the darkness.

I called the school to let them know but no answer (not open yet).  So I called the Sheriff and asked them to do a drive by to check on the kid.

Did I do the right thing? (I say yes)  20 years ago I would not have given it a second thought and given him a ride.  But in today's climate.  No way.

It kind of bothered me most of the morning.



2011-10-19 8:42 AM
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2011-10-19 8:44 AM
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Unfortunately, you did the right thing. By today's standards you just cannot take a chance. And, if the child`s plight was legit, then he needs to have a talk from his parents or guardians.
2011-10-19 8:45 AM
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Unfortunately...I think you did the right thing.

You offered to call someone for him...you then didn't let the matter drop and took it upon yourself to check it out.  You didn't just say "no" and drive away...I'm hoping this kid was lazy and not devious...

2011-10-19 8:45 AM
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I'd say you did the right thing.  You can't be too careful in those kinds of situations.  Its unfortunate that the world is this way today, but it is...
2011-10-19 8:46 AM
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you did the right thing.  I guess the only other thing I might have done is offer to call his family.  But you're right, 20-years ago I would not hesitate to give the kid a ride...but not today.  Pretty sad that's the world we live in.

Ocassionally we have a baysitter for our kids (female).  I never drive her home after...my wife does.



2011-10-19 8:48 AM
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I think you did the right thing.  If it was someone you knew, it would be a different story.  But sadly, that is the society we live in today.
2011-10-19 9:03 AM
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I’d have probably done the same thing—not given the kid a ride and then felt guilty about it for hours.

I think most people are looking at it from the pov of their own safety, which is valid, but I’d add that it does the kid no good to get it in his head that hitching a ride to school is a good idea. It’s not safe for him either.
2011-10-19 9:16 AM
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you did the right thing.

 

I would have gotten his name, so I could give that info to the Sheriff when you called, but yes, you did right IMO.

2011-10-19 9:23 AM
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You absolutely did the right thing, but my logic may be a little different than the others.

In Nebraska it is illegal to "entice" a child into your car (or anywhere) and there's no real definition of the word entice so if you get pulled over, or his parents see him in your car, it could get ugly real fast.  Especially if the kid gets scared and decides to make up a story to save his bacon.

Lawmakers have removed intent from many laws when it comes to kidnapping and sex crimes, so just having a strange kid in your car without the parents permission could wind you up in a lot of trouble legally.

2011-10-19 9:27 AM
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Definitely did the right thing.  


2011-10-19 9:58 AM
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This thread has been a really interesting read for me. I don't have kids, none of my close friends have kids, and I'm just generally not around parents all that much. I didn't realize what a different climate we are in now than when I was growing up. I read national news stories that interest me, but don't watch the news because I was tired of the sensationalism. I guess it has caused me to be rather sheltered about this particular sort of matter.
So now I know that I should never give a child a ride in my car. Not that I ever really would, because in my neighborhood the kids all hate me, so would never dream of flagging me down unless it was life or death.
2011-10-19 10:14 AM
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jmk-brooklyn - 2011-10-19 10:03 AM I’d have probably done the same thing—not given the kid a ride and then felt guilty about it for hours. I think most people are looking at it from the pov of their own safety, which is valid, but I’d add that it does the kid no good to get it in his head that hitching a ride to school is a good idea. It’s not safe for him either.

That's the part that bothered me the most.  Doesn't he know this is dangerous?

2011-10-19 10:49 AM
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TriRSquared - 2011-10-19 10:14 AM

jmk-brooklyn - 2011-10-19 10:03 AM I’d have probably done the same thing—not given the kid a ride and then felt guilty about it for hours. I think most people are looking at it from the pov of their own safety, which is valid, but I’d add that it does the kid no good to get it in his head that hitching a ride to school is a good idea. It’s not safe for him either.

That's the part that bothered me the most.  Doesn't he know this is dangerous?



When I was a teenager, I feel like we were just in the infancy of the “hitchhiking is dangerous” campaign. It’s something that I would never have even considered doing when I was growing up.

I think sometimes what happens is that avoidance of a particular behavior becomes so ingrained in a particular generation of society that it becomes a given and we forget that we need to educate a whole new generation of people about the dangers of it. Are there tv commercials and after-school specials now warning kids about the dangers of hitchhiking? I bet there aren’t, but there certainly were when I was a kid.
2011-10-19 11:24 AM
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First thought I had was that's prime gang-recruitment age and I wouldn't want to get carjacked.  Sad.
2011-10-19 11:38 AM
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No way I would give a ride. I wouldn't even slow down unless I could clearly see the person was injured or in danger.

Strange kids (capable of doing something - not talking about babies or toddlers) scare me just as much as strange adults.
 



2011-10-19 12:27 PM
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I would not have given him a ride either. There was still plenty of time to get to school on time. Why is he walking in the first place? Did he miss the bus? Was he staying away from home? Is there a reason his parents did not want to give him a ride? If the kid ditches school, and the police report is that the missing kid was last seen entering my car in the dark of the morning, I REALLY don't want to be in that situation.

Too many questions relating to too many negative scenarios for me to resolve if I was on my way into work. MAYBE if my own kid was in the car and vouched for the kid walking.

2011-10-19 5:53 PM
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Would you have given him (her) a ride if it was a cute girl, rather than boy?
2011-10-19 6:32 PM
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lisac957 - 2011-10-19 11:38 AM

No way I would give a ride. I wouldn't even slow down unless I could clearly see the person was injured or in danger.

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This I agree with.  I would have gotten a name, asked where he lived, etc., but that's me.

2011-10-19 6:53 PM
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morey000 - 2011-10-19 5:53 PM

Would you have given him (her) a ride if it was a cute girl, rather than boy?


No, for the same reason I wouldn't drive a female baby sitter home. My wife doesn't agree with me that it's an issue so we argue anytime we have a baby sitter that needs to be driven home.

One of my friends who left teaching, left because a girl he failed accused him of hitting on her because she was mad that he had failed her. It's too easy for impulsive adolescents to make something up without thinking of the massive trouble it's going to cause for the adult. And because we want to protect children, we all assume they are telling the truth until it's proven otherwise.

I think TriRSquared did the right thing.
2011-10-20 7:48 AM
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ugh. It is sad. that would bother me so much as a teacher, but whoever said about the car-jacking and gang initiation is right to mention it!  We had a gang task force at our elementary school b/c they told us our kids were likely have brothers/sisters recruited at middle school!  Horrible. Since my nature is to want to help. 

There is also the problem of you being accused of luring the child to the car, as well as making the child feel its ok to hitchhike.  Yikes. So many issues come up with what would once be a simple answer.

Makes me sad. Frown



2011-10-23 8:53 PM
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graceful_dave - 2011-10-19 6:53 PM
morey000 - 2011-10-19 5:53 PM Would you have given him (her) a ride if it was a cute girl, rather than boy?
No, for the same reason I wouldn't drive a female baby sitter home. My wife doesn't agree with me that it's an issue so we argue anytime we have a baby sitter that needs to be driven home. One of my friends who left teaching, left because a girl he failed accused him of hitting on her because she was mad that he had failed her. It's too easy for impulsive adolescents to make something up without thinking of the massive trouble it's going to cause for the adult. And because we want to protect children, we all assume they are telling the truth until it's proven otherwise. I think TriRSquared did the right thing.

I absolutely agree with you about not driving the babysitter home. As the mother of a teenage girl I always made it clear to whoever she was babysitting for that either we would pick her up or the wife had to drive her home. I was of course concerned with my daughter's safety, but it protects the dad as well. I have two male friends whose lives were almost destroyed by false accusations. Sad that it works this way now but there's no sense even placing yourself in the position for it to happen.

Shelly

2011-10-23 9:00 PM
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Had the same thought - how sad - how do you know he didn't have a gun or knife?

And everyone else is right on the money - you can get into all kinds of "trouble" trying to help....

It is a very sad reflection of our society
2011-10-23 9:08 PM
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Or maybe the kid just needed a ride.  You did the right thing though.  
2011-10-24 10:22 AM
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You did the right thing without a doubt, especially when you followed up.  In this crazy world there are so many ways you can get hurt just by trying to help someone, especially a kid.  I'm a youth coach, Scout leader, and small group leader in our church's youth ministry.  All three organizations make the adults go through a training session that has two focuses, first is how to spot abuse in kids you interact with.  And second is how to protect yourself from accusations.  Rule number one is NEVER be one on one in an enclosed space with a kid who is not your own child, EVER!  It seem incredibly cold hearted and callous to be this way towards kids, especially one who appears to really need help.  But you have no other choice.  I have a cousin who has had his life ruined, and I mean totally ruined, by a false accusation.  You absolutely did the right thing.
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