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2009-08-28 1:38 PM

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Help,

I've tried TYR anti-fog cleaner, toothpaste, dish soap, spit, nothing works!  What is your best method to keep your goggles from fogging?


2009-08-28 1:40 PM
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scuba divers use an anti-fog solution. Might want to look into that.

Personally, I just let them fog. I am still semi-see body parts or bouys enough to swim.
2009-08-28 1:48 PM
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mchubri` - 2009-08-28 11:38 AM Help,

I've tried TYR anti-fog cleaner, toothpaste, dish soap, spit, nothing works!  What is your best method to keep your goggles from fogging?


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2009-08-28 1:50 PM
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I use anti-fog for scuba masks...works perfectly...rub it onto both sides of the lens then rinse
2009-08-28 1:53 PM
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tkd.teacher - 2009-08-28 2:48 PM
mchubri` - 2009-08-28 11:38 AM Help,

I've tried TYR anti-fog cleaner, toothpaste, dish soap, spit, nothing works!  What is your best method to keep your goggles from fogging?


Sweat less.


IMPOSSIBLE!  I'm the sweatiest bastard you'd ever meet!
2009-08-28 1:53 PM
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Most goggles come with a bit of anti-fog on the lens.  This wears away with the persistent finger rubbing that everyone insists upon doing.  HEre's what I do, and my cheap TYR Socket Rockets last (fog free) for months:

1.  Spit into lens

2.  Swirl spit around just by moving the goggles around a bit, no fingers!

3.  For best results, rinse with plain water - although I rinse in the pool

4.  After swimming, rinse with cold water (no scrubbing!  no chemicals, soap, fingers, etc) and AIR DRY.

Bottom line, don't touch the lens.



2009-08-28 1:58 PM
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Do not use toothpaste on swim goggles.  That works great for masks which are glass but the abrasion will scratch the plastic lenses  of swim goggles.

I use spit.  Some times it works great....other times, not so good.  I think under certain temp/humidity, you are gonna get some fogging regardless of what you do.

~Mike

2009-08-28 2:06 PM
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I use anti-fog or spit.  Both work for me pretty well.  Agree on the water temp/air temp/humidity etc. factors sometimes causing fogging not matter what. 

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2009-08-28 2:07 PM
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I use TYR anti-fog. It seems to work better in the pool than OWS. Been having some problems lately in the lake with fogging. Probably due to it getting quite warm and sweating more.
2009-08-28 2:14 PM
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Myth from my experience. I usually leave a little water inside the lens and let it "clean" the lens as I go.
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2009-08-28 2:18 PM
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mchubri` - 2009-08-28 11:53 AM
tkd.teacher - 2009-08-28 2:48 PM
mchubri` - 2009-08-28 11:38 AM Help,

I've tried TYR anti-fog cleaner, toothpaste, dish soap, spit, nothing works!  What is your best method to keep your goggles from fogging?


Sweat less.


IMPOSSIBLE!  I'm the sweatiest bastard you'd ever meet!


Heh. I went from 172 to 166 on a 6 mile run yesterday. Indoors.

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2009-08-28 2:23 PM
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I use Johnston's baby shampoo mixed with water.  I have a water bottle of it that I bring with me and what I do is rinse my goggles in water (pool, ocean, whatever) then splash some of my cocktail on the outside and then fill up the eyecups for a few seconds.  Then don't touch 'em!  I just put them on and don't rub them or even take them off if it's not too long of a session.  It works perfectly, I get absolutely no fogging and it has lasted for as long as 40 mins (haven't tried longer yet).  I learned the trick from a snorkleing company.  It takes some trial and error to get the mixture right but if I had to guess, I would say I put about 1 tablespoon of baby shampoo in a water bottle (one that would go on your bike). 
2009-08-28 2:33 PM
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x2 on the baby shampoo...works great for me.
2009-08-28 2:48 PM
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Someone on here said that they put dish soap on their goggles, rinse and air dry. 
I tried that and my goggles have not been fogging at my pool swims anymore.
2009-08-28 3:08 PM
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No such thing as ANTI-fog.  There is not-fog-as-much products.  I'm an engineer for the navy, and develop display masks for divers, and others.  We have tried about everything you can think of to wart off fogging in worst case environments.  Things we have found:

*If conditions are right nothing works.
*Material matters...   We have tried many different goggles, materials (glasses, plastics, ect...), and films.  some fog more than others.  Manufacturing quality, surface smoothness helps reduce fogging.
*Cleanliness matters.   If there is oil, grime, or mold release (from manufacturing), this promotes fogging.
*I have tried many different goggles (about 10) and have found that some fog no matter what, and some hardly ever fog with no extra products added.
2009-08-28 3:28 PM
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x3 on baby shampoo.  I haven't had a problem since I started doing that and my goggles used to fog up by the end of my first lap.  I rub it on the inside with my finger and rinse with water. 


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RichMan - 2009-08-28 3:08 PM No such thing as ANTI-fog.  There is not-fog-as-much products.  I'm an engineer for the navy, and develop display masks for divers, and others.  We have tried about everything you can think of to wart off fogging in worst case environments.  Things we have found:

*If conditions are right nothing works.
*Material matters...   We have tried many different goggles, materials (glasses, plastics, ect...), and films.  some fog more than others.  Manufacturing quality, surface smoothness helps reduce fogging.
*Cleanliness matters.   If there is oil, grime, or mold release (from manufacturing), this promotes fogging.
*I have tried many different goggles (about 10) and have found that some fog no matter what, and some hardly ever fog with no extra products added.


Shack.

That being said, I always go with spit. It's free, so why not?  Sometimes it works, sometimes it don't.  It's never so bad that I can't see good enough.

Cheers, Chris
2009-08-28 5:11 PM
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A guy at my last tri I did had some sort of anti fog wipe. He opened it from like a wet nap type packet. He was setting up next to me in transition and let me use it too. It's a one time use wipe. I don't know what kind it was, but I had absolutely zero fogging during the swim. I was amazed. Usually for workouts I spit and then lick the inside of my goggles. Anyone know what brand the wipe may have been? Do most come in a wipe form like that?
2009-08-28 5:29 PM
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BikerGrrrl - 2009-08-28 2:53 PM

Most goggles come with a bit of anti-fog on the lens.  This wears away with the persistent finger rubbing that everyone insists upon doing.  HEre's what I do, and my cheap TYR Socket Rockets last (fog free) for months:

1.  Spit into lens

2.  Swirl spit around just by moving the goggles around a bit, no fingers!

3.  For best results, rinse with plain water - although I rinse in the pool

4.  After swimming, rinse with cold water (no scrubbing!  no chemicals, soap, fingers, etc) and AIR DRY.

Bottom line, don't touch the lens.


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2009-08-28 5:39 PM
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh anti fog...

There is a fine film on your mask/goggle from the manufacturer. They do this to prevent lens damage during packaging/shipping. This is usually the fog culprit. I am not sure why it causes fog but it does. This information was passed on to me by a sales rep peddling assorted goggles. when I posed the question "Why do my goggle fog?" film was the answer I got.

Now I know there are a couple of you seriously examining your shiny new goggles right now "He's nutz!". Yep they look clear... There does not appear to be any film... Trust me it is there.

When you hear use toothpaste you aren't getting the full instruction. Use a non abrasive toothpaste and rub it around and around and around and around and around and around and around. Getting the idea? To remove the film. I know most of you are still thinking he is NUTS! I promise I am not. Well not with respect to this topic. Anyway, right about the point you think your fingers will cramp from rubbing toothpaste around switch and do the other lense until your finger does cramp and you have swicthed to your off hand. The point of the exercise is that it takes a massive effort to remove the film. So dont skimp on this effort. Then rinse well and allow to dry...

So now that we have our optics free of the above metioned evil film. SPIT!!!!! rub it around... Give a really quick flush with pool water or ocean water or whatever... Slap em on and go...

**If you have your googles on your face for any length of time b4 you enter the water your body temp warms the air inside of said goggles. They will fog... Condensation is a b*tch... So leave em turned out around your neck or on your forehead till the last minute.

My .02 cents worth... YMMV
2009-08-28 10:21 PM
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Most goggles come with anti-fog on the lens, so everytime you rub the lens, you rub it off. The goggles I use (swedish) don't have any such thing, but I have found that if I put them on when I'm dry, then I dont have issues. My theory (keyword theory) is that fog requires moisture so if you seal up the goggles to your eyes when everything is dry, there is less moisture to create fog. My story and I'm sticking to it.


2009-08-29 6:40 AM
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tjfry - 2009-08-28 10:21 PM Most goggles come with anti-fog on the lens, so everytime you rub the lens, you rub it off. The goggles I use (swedish) don't have any such thing, but I have found that if I put them on when I'm dry, then I dont have issues. My theory (keyword theory) is that fog requires moisture so if you seal up the goggles to your eyes when everything is dry, there is less moisture to create fog. My story and I'm sticking to it.

 

Nice theory but....1. I tend not to get a good seal if you don't get the goggles wet and 2. the tears ducts in your eyes provides a constant sorce of moisture.

 

~Mike

2009-08-29 8:02 AM
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Rogillio - 2009-08-29 6:40 AM

tjfry - 2009-08-28 10:21 PM Most goggles come with anti-fog on the lens, so everytime you rub the lens, you rub it off. The goggles I use (swedish) don't have any such thing, but I have found that if I put them on when I'm dry, then I dont have issues. My theory (keyword theory) is that fog requires moisture so if you seal up the goggles to your eyes when everything is dry, there is less moisture to create fog. My story and I'm sticking to it.

 

Nice theory but....1. I tend not to get a good seal if you don't get the goggles wet and 2. the tears ducts in your eyes provides a constant sorce of moisture.

 

~Mike



mmmm..... Didn't think about the ole tear ducts. I will say though, if you need the goggles to be wet to get a good seal, then you need a different style of goggles.

Edited by tjfry 2009-08-29 8:02 AM
2009-08-29 8:09 AM
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I still use the Snorkel Bob's anti-fog juice we got in Hawaii on our honeymoon, 15 years ago. Still works great!



Edited by StMaas 2009-08-29 8:09 AM
2009-08-29 1:19 PM
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So this morning I tried some TYR anti-fog + spit and didn't rub and it worked great!  In the past I've been rubbing the crap out of the lenses with the TYR and/or spit which may have hinderen its effect.  I think I'll stick to this no rub method and see what happens.  Thanks for all the great feedback!  

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