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2006-06-01 7:07 PM

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Subject: Lake Swim & Alligators
This may seem like a ridiculous question but I can't find any facts on the subject so I thought I would solicit feedback on this thread. I just did my first sprint with an ocean swim. I am looking to enter another sprint that has a lake swim but I am afraid of swimming among alligators.

I am in Central Florida and alligator attacks have been in the news lately. Is there any way to know if a lake has alligators or if the event coordinator does anything to minimize risk? I'm not sure what they could do but... Are there certain lakes or races to look for?

Is this a valid concern or am I getting caught up in one of those "urban legends"??


2006-06-01 7:10 PM
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Contact the local park and rec department, or animal control!!

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2006-06-01 7:16 PM
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I feel you.  I would definitely worry about doing lake swims in Florida.

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2006-06-01 7:52 PM
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I'm no Jeff Corwin, but my guess is that with all of the hoopla the morning of your tri (kayaks, jetskis, boats, etc.) any creatures in the vicinity will want to get as far away from the commotion as possible. 

If you have concerns, I would contact the race officials or the local authorities in that area to find out if there are sightings in that area.   The race officials may be able to give you some information on their research about the 'wildlife' in that neck of the woods - especially if they race the same course each year.  If their response is: "Our advice to you is to swim very fast", then I'd be worried. 

 



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2006-06-01 7:52 PM
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Subject: RE: Lake Swim & Alligators
Growing up swimming the rivers and bayous of southwest mississippi and east louisiana, I can tell you I wouldn't worry about alligators. I have seen them surface next to me while i treaded water waiting to be picked up and nearly freaked, but never heard of anyone being harmed. Especially if it is a mass swim start. They will want nothing to do with that.

Most attacks occur when someone is messing with a gator or accidently step on one while walking near the water, not swimming in it.

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2006-06-01 7:54 PM
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I have relatives in Florida and everytime we visited we were told that if you can't taste salt in the water then there could be gators.


2006-06-01 9:33 PM
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My rule: IF you can't see the bottom.  Don't swim in it.
2006-06-01 10:18 PM
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Even though there have been a couple of attacks lately, you have to look at the big picture. In the past 50 years, there have been around 15 fatal gator attacks... nation wide. The attacks recently in Florida are the worst example of alligator behavior. I undertand the concern it causes, as I grew up in SW Florida, and spent a lot of my younger years in and around the Everglades. Alligatos are somewhat skiddish by nature, and the frenzy of a triathlon open water swim is going to drive them away, if nothing else. You'll be fine.

 

2006-06-01 10:29 PM
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This is one of the very reason I live in Oregon. I don't have to worry about that. We live on a river and the only thing that I have to worry about is the few ducks that swim in it...and my dogs who live to swim with us...and I guess I worry about my kids drowning too.

You can keep your alligators.

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2006-06-01 11:01 PM
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Ya gotta look at the averages. Big body of water, many many people, one alligator. With all the variables if that alligator chooses you out of the crowd you had it coming
2006-06-01 11:11 PM
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That very issue is a serious deterrent for me as well. Not a chance I would do a lake swim in the SE. But then again I think nothing of a nice Pacific ocean swim with sharks so I guess we fear the unfamiliar.


2006-06-02 1:29 AM
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Hmm from the sounds of things Alligators are way more placid then crocs,  No way would you get me swimming if there was any possibility of crocodilliy's.   would rather go swim in shark infested waters instead.
2006-06-02 5:32 AM
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Just don't be DFL in the water: I don't have to swim faster than him, I just have to swim faster than you!
2006-06-02 7:41 AM
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Subject: RE: Lake Swim & Alligators

The only really dangerous gators are the ones that have been fed by stupid humans and have learned to associate people with free food.  They also will get a bit territorial during mating season.   We've got a four-footer in the lake in our subdivision.  We see it very rarely, although it does do its part to keep the duck and yappy poodle populations under control. 

Like sharks, gators mostly hunt at dusk or night and don't like to get up early to chase those wiley triathletes splashing around in the wee hours of the morning.  Unless the race is at dusk through a gator nesting ground I wouldn't worry too much.   

 

2006-06-02 8:57 AM
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Nah, there's nothing to worry about



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2006-06-02 10:36 AM
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rollinbones - 2006-06-02 9:57 AM

Nah, there's nothing to worry about


CRIKEY!!!!!


2006-06-02 12:27 PM
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rollinbones - 2006-06-02 8:57 AM Nah, there's nothing to worry about

 Clearly that alligator is much more afraid of humans than we are of it.  Look how docile and harmless he is. 

2006-06-02 2:26 PM
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That gator is only 13 feet long....it's all about perspective of the shot
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/wcgator.asp
2006-06-02 3:39 PM
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Just swim fast!!!!!
2006-06-02 3:45 PM
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The fact that you can't find anything on the subject is the most important piece of information you have. There's nothing to worry about. I just did a tri in Florida witha lake swim. No animals took anyone out, but the heat sure did. Worry about that, it has a much higher likelihood of affecting your well being on race day.
2006-06-02 4:19 PM
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2006-06-02 4:19 PM
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This time of the year I would start being more concerned with Amoeba than gators!

Amoeba Facts: Naegleria occurs in all natural freshwaters, most soils, and even in poorly maintained pools and spas. When water temperatures are below 85 degrees Fahrenheit, the amoeba exists in a cyst form that is not capable of causing infection. When the water temperature exceeds 85 degrees, the organism emerges from the cyst into a free-living amoeba that can cause primary amoebic meningoencephalitis (PAM), a usually fatal brain disease. In Winter Park lakes the water temperature in near shore areas typically exceeds 85 degrees between Mid June and early October. The amoeba lives in the bottom sediments where it feeds on detritus such as decomposing plant material. Infections can occur when bottom sediments are stirred up, and swimmers put their heads under water near the bottom, or jump into stirred up waters (causing water to be forced up the nose or ears).

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2006-06-02 4:25 PM
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marmadaddy - 2006-06-02 4:45 PM The fact that you can't find anything on the subject is the most important piece of information you have.

You can't find anything on the subject because no-one is left to tell the tale.  I'm telling you- all those DNF's are just cover ups for "eaten by beast".

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