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2012-11-23 10:47 AM

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Subject: What is it with redneck, white-trash, goldigging, system-scammers?!

WARNING:  I just realized how big this post is.  Yikes!  Sorry.

 

Just came back from my in-laws for Thanksgiving.  A nice enough time and a great meal.  But one side of the family (married into) is just so...  Jerry Springer!

My wife's mother died from breast cancer when she was only 41 and my wife was 19.  My father-in-law remarried a southerner who was nice enough when they were dating, but once they got married, her true golddigging, childish behavior came to the surface.  This guy is the type who can't not be married.  She was the first person he dated and he's also the type who sleeps in the bed he makes.  So he never thought about walking away from it  - or at least, realized the cost would be tremendous.

At Thanksgiving you get this group of 2 dozen plus at his house.  Half are NY/NJ Jews and the other half are southerners.  But it's their lifestyles and behaviors that just blow us away!  Check this out...

Mother-in-law:  Her husband died from cancer and with the insurance money, she chose not to work, and buy a condo in Myrtle Beach and lots of "toys".  When the money ran out and she was broke, she snagged a sugar-daddy and suckered him into marriage.  We don't speak because she never once even asked me how I was doing throughout my cancer treatments.  And then when her grandson was diagnosed with leukemia (the best, most-curable kind - he's doing GREAT and is in remission), she says to me, "you didn't really even have cancer.  You don't know what it's like.  All the chemo treatment he has to go through.  He's just a boy and you're a grown man.  I never want to hear about how you think you had cancer."  So I simply ignore her for the most part.

Mother-in-law's oldest daughter:  Was married with 2 kids until her ex-husband started sleeping with her 2 best friends.  She used to work for government social services and found some way to scam the system into collecting retirement benefits starting at age 40.  She and ex also took $40K from father-in-law for the down-payment on a house they couldn't afford which wound up in foreclosure 5 years later.  She likes to run up credit card bills to the max and then default on them.  Oh and in addition to "retirement" she's also on disability for "migraines" so she gets that too.  We're still trying to figure out HOW she manages to cheat the government into retirement and disability payments and how she manages to keep getting credit cards that she never pays back.  This one's the MASTER of scamming the system.

Mother-in-law's oldest daughter's ex:  A thief who stole cash and jewelry from father-in-law, took $40K for the house which he lost, sleeps with wife's best friends... but we don't see him anymore.  Thank heavens!

Mother-law's grandson:  Always sponged off of mom & dad (above) and was always spoiled rotten with "toys" iPhones/iPads, TVs, game consoles, etc.  On the first day they were dropping him off at college, he has a breakdown, says he can't do it, and threatens to commit suicide.  So they bring him home...  And bought him a 2005 Audi A6.  WTF?!  19, doesn't work, lives at home and still gets the toys.  Most of the money he finds goes into tattoos on his body.

Mother-in-law's granddaughter:  Just simply pathetic.  She barely graduated high school and she's too "fragile" to work or do anything else.  She doesn't have a drivers license because she's too afraid to drive a car.  So she hangs out all day on Facebook, etc.  She used to live with Mom, but Mom started to demand she get a job.  So she went to live with Dad and he showered her with "toys" for love.  Then he started to ask that she do something with her life.  So Mom missed her so, so she went back to Mom's who now lets her do nothing all day except watch TV, surf the Internet, eat and get fat.

Mother-in-law's middle daughter:  She's nice, but SO naive!  Her alcoholic husband ran up so much debt, that he had to foreclose on their Myrtle Beach condo, and he emptied the bank accounts to keep his flooring business afloat and hide it from her.  She had no clue as to what was going on.  She never worked and finally got up the courage to divorce him.  He simply went to live with the woman he had been sleeping with for years - HER YOUNGER SISTER!!!  You read that right, he was sleeping with his wife's younger sister.  She's too ignorant to lawyer up and fight hard, so he got the house and for a long time, she and her two kids moved back in with Mom and father-in-law.  Father-in-law set her and the kids up in an apartment (in Durham, her oldest son has leukemia).  She has no job skills and was doing some part-time work as a Pilates Instructor.  But mostly father-in-law supports her and the kids.

Mother-in-law's youngest daughter:  Never knew her much.  She dropped out of high school and we think she was stripping for a while.  We knew that she had a boyfriend who would buy her stuff.  Of course then we found out it was middle sister's husband.  She's gone with him now and we don't see or hear about her anymore.

But STILL - Every Black Friday, they have a family tradition of going out to buy the latest and greatest toys.  They give eaother iPads, big HDTV's... if it's expensive and cool, that's what they get each other for Christmas.  No money, no self-control, no ambition... except to buy stuff.

Mother-in-law vents to father-in-law, "how come your two daughters are so lucky and have it made in life?  Their lives are so easy and they have all the money.  Why is life such a struggle for my three?"

Because his oldest daughter (my wife) works 7 days a week, day and night, to run her own business that she started from the ground up, and is still the best mother and wife inthe world!  She busts her azz and is amazing!  2 bachelors degrees, a masters, and the highest industry certification you can get.  Luck had nothing to do with it!  I come from school teacher stock, so I never had a hand-out.  Everything we have, we earned ourselves.  (Oh and luck?  Her husband gets cancer, then gets fired from his job and she's bald as a cue ball living with Alopecia Universalis.  Yeah, that's some really good luck for ya.)

Because his youngest daughter works 60+ hours a week, traveling, and being the National Marketing Director for a national restaurant chain.  She busted her hump to get where she is and she's really good at what she does.  AND she does this all with a 3-yr-old and a 9-mo-old baby!  Luck has nothing to do with it!  She earns 6 figures as does her Wall Street trading husband.  But everything they have, they earned themselves.

What a Thanksgiving dichotomy:  One side of the table believes that education, hard work, and smart choices gets you places, and the other side believes in luck and getting things handed to them.  Father-in-law has paid out 20 times to his wife's three goldiggers than he ever gave to his own two.  He has pride and respect for his daughters and we never asked him for anything.  But the other side?  I think he's forced to keep them afloat to keep his wife quiet.  For 18 years we've been waiting to hear talk of a divorce, but nothing.  The guy really got himself in it.

... It's painful to listen to them sometimes.

 

(Family Thanksgiving vent over.)



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2012-11-23 11:27 AM
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Subject: RE: What is it with redneck, white-trash, goldigging, system-scammers?!
I heard banjo music while reading this.
2012-11-23 11:58 AM
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Hey, leave the banjo out of this.

BFD, I know the type. I am fortunate that most of the folks I come into contact with resemble yur side of the family as far as values, even if our "style" and heritage more resembles the other side. But that portrait describes a number of folks I have crossed paths with. Now, you really want to drop your jaw and see how much worse it can get, you need to go to netflix and stream my favorite documentary. The Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia. I know few people who could stand to watch it all in one sitting. My wife laughed through it, since they reminded her of her clients. She is a social worker in a county here in PA that resembles the region in some ways. But the people are very very close.

I have developed a keen ear for when I hear people use the word "lucky" when at my door looking for assistance. It is definitely part of a worldview.

2012-11-23 11:58 AM
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Subject: RE: What is it with redneck, white-trash, goldigging, system-scammers?!
Next time they come over just distract them with back-to-back episodes of Here Comes Honey Boo-Boo.
2012-11-23 12:05 PM
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Thank you for putting my dysfunctional family Thanksgiving dinner into perspective. Ever think about pa-per-view? You'd have plenty of cash for the holidays.
2012-11-23 12:19 PM
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Thanks for the laugh and to let me know that my family is not so bad!!!!  :-)

 



2012-11-23 12:29 PM
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Wow, you could sell tickets for that event. Sounds real entertaining.
2012-11-23 12:44 PM
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Ahh... the Holidays.
2012-11-23 12:47 PM
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mgalanter - 2012-11-23 12:58 PM Next time they come over just distract them with back-to-back episodes of Here Comes Honey Boo-Boo.

"Reality TV" and the ensuing lengthy discussion about it seems to be a major topic of conversation for that group.  I have zero to add since I've never really watched any of those shows.

In fact, they talk about TV shows as if they watched TV for 10 hours a say - which wouldn't be too shocking to learn that they do.

 

2012-11-23 12:52 PM
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Bigfuzzydoug - 2012-11-23 11:47 AM

mgalanter - 2012-11-23 12:58 PM Next time they come over just distract them with back-to-back episodes of Here Comes Honey Boo-Boo.

"Reality TV" and the ensuing lengthy discussion about it seems to be a major topic of conversation for that group.  I have zero to add since I've never really watched any of those shows.

In fact, they talk about TV shows as if they watched TV for 10 hours a say - which wouldn't be too shocking to learn that they do.

 

And throat cancer may be a pain in the neck... but it isn't like "real" cancer. I mean, does it really deserve a sig line?

 

 

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2012-11-23 12:56 PM
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powerman - 2012-11-23 1:52 PM
Bigfuzzydoug - 2012-11-23 11:47 AM

mgalanter - 2012-11-23 12:58 PM Next time they come over just distract them with back-to-back episodes of Here Comes Honey Boo-Boo.

"Reality TV" and the ensuing lengthy discussion about it seems to be a major topic of conversation for that group.  I have zero to add since I've never really watched any of those shows.

In fact, they talk about TV shows as if they watched TV for 10 hours a say - which wouldn't be too shocking to learn that they do.

 

And throat cancer may be a pain in the neck... but it isn't like "real" cancer. I mean, does it really deserve a sig line?

I'm gonna milk that bad boy for all the sympathy and excuses I possibly can baby!

... I guess if I had died, then maybe she would've considered it "real cancer".  How sad for me not to live up to her high expectations.

 



2012-11-23 12:58 PM
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Wow.  I commend you.  I never would of shown up to a table full of people that I didn't like family or not.
2012-11-23 12:59 PM
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Ugh. Horrific.  I don't even know you or her but i am infuriated at the attitude toward your cancer.  i would want to kick her butt! You are good family and just know that you're so much better off - and i guess being around these 'interesting' folks can put your own lives and happiness into perspective.

All i want to do is *face palm* - some people really don't get it.  I guess you just have to realize it's their problem not yours. 

2012-11-23 1:09 PM
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Aysel - 2012-11-23 1:58 PM Wow.  I commend you.  I never would of shown up to a table full of people that I didn't like family or not.

Despite having zero respect for these people, we're there all the time...  Mainly to be there for my wife's Dad.  He likes to keep some vision of "family" and not make waves, so we go to support and be with him.

Also, the middle daughter's two kids (oldest boy with leukemia) is the same age as my son and her younger daughter looks to my daughter like a big sister.  They all get along and they like seeing each other.  And my father-in-law's old neighbors whom have been just like family always come as well.  These are the "classy" southerners who have attitudes like ours.  He built his own HVAC business and sold it for millions when he retired, she, the nicest kiondergarten teacher you would ever meet.

You can pick your friends, but you can't pick your family.  Sometimes you just take one for the team, sit there and listen to the conversation debating how awesome is Honey Boo-Boo and do we go with 3D HDTV's this year or not.

 

2012-11-23 2:35 PM
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so I take it you serve Pabst Blue Ribbon, Schlitz or Natural Light to one side of the table and Sam Adams, Goose Island and Guiness to the other side?
2012-11-23 2:47 PM
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We just had turkey with the fixings, watched some football, sat in front of the fire and played monopoly............I feel cheated.


2012-11-24 11:44 AM
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That's not redneck, that's just white trash.  Calling them redneck is offensive to rednecks in the south.
2012-11-24 12:04 PM
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TriRSquared - 2012-11-24 12:44 PMThat's not redneck, that's just white trash.  Calling them redneck is offensive to rednecks in the south.

X2, rednecks have red necks because they're out working in the sun. Sounds like your in-laws are fat necks...and fat heads...

2012-11-24 12:35 PM
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TriRSquared - 2012-11-24 11:44 AMThat's not redneck, that's just white trash.  Calling them redneck is offensive to rednecks in the south.
. And the Duck Dynasty family and crew. (Got hooked on that show)
2012-11-24 5:10 PM
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Running Q - 2012-11-23 3:35 PM so I take it you serve Pabst Blue Ribbon, Schlitz or Natural Light to one side of the table and Sam Adams, Goose Island and Guiness to the other side?

That's actually quite funny and sadly...  very close to the truth!  I bring my own New Castle Brown Ale and some interesting craft beers as well as a couple of bottles of white wine for the "Yankee crowd".

The white trash side goes through 2-3 cases of Miller Lite.  That's all they ever drink!

2012-11-24 5:20 PM
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Mod note: The second we get into defining redneck or fatneck or whatever, or start talking about the greater 'they', this is gonzo. The reason this thread is still here is because it's BFD's N=1 experience, so it's real. The second it gets into generalizations it shall be toast. 

Stay on point, people.  That is all.



2012-11-24 5:20 PM
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Mod note: The second we get into defining redneck or fatneck or whatever, or start talking about the greater 'they', this is gonzo. The reason this thread is still here is because it's BFD's N=1 experience, so it's real. The second it gets into generalizations it shall be toast. 

Stay on point, people.  That is all.

2012-11-24 7:41 PM
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Not sure how you deal with all that.

Sadly a lot like my family in Colorado. Lots of teen pregnancy, moochers, cheats, alcoholics etc.  I do have to say though it is not a southern thing, it is an attitude thing. 

Having grown up with and related to a lot of that we have friends over for Thanksgiving.

 

2012-11-25 8:56 AM
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Im curious, tell us about the perfect side of your family, the NYers?  I suggest not dissing the South because of certain people.  And if you were not aware there is a N bound lane on 85 and 95 heading that way every day. Don't confuse the North in NC, it is a Southern State as well.

Sorry about the cancer and that is painful regardless.

2012-11-25 1:40 PM
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Hang in there Doug.    Some people are what they are.   Don't let them rent space in your head.   Don't lose a whit of sleep because of them.   Take the Zen road.    Which, in this case, would be the high road.     Influence where you can but don't expect too much success with the so-called "adults." 

 

P.S.   See sig line.     Heinlein was right.

P.P.S   I'm a cracker, by the way.   Labels don't bother me at all.   Any artificially grouped set of people will be ruled by the bell curve.   Some few truly good; some few truly bad.  It's the one's in the gray area that we can hope to have some minor influence with.    

/pulpit.....   

Let's go sailing sometime.     The Dart 18 and the Cal 20 are always at our disposal.    Also any craft beer you would like.   We are civilized here in the valley.  *Thanks to our German imports*      The boats are both  in Guntersville.  



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