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2008-02-04 10:08 PM

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Subject: What is considered a fast/avg 100 yard swim?
I did a TT today for swiming to determine my 100 speed for my swim workouts. I am just curious what is considered a good speed/time for 100 yards.




2008-02-04 10:11 PM
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If you go ave above 1:20 per 100 average in a race you'll be towards the front....1:10 and faster you'll be leading most races...(age group)
2008-02-04 10:12 PM
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Well, your time smokes my "speed" of 2:00 per 100.
2008-02-04 10:13 PM
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It is all relative to where you are. I say improving 30" in a 1000 yd TT is great no matter where you started.

 

2008-02-04 11:42 PM
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kellyclothier - 2008-02-04 10:08 PM I did a TT today for swiming to determine my 100 speed for my swim workouts. I am just curious what is considered a good speed/time for 100 yards.

 

You might check on the internet in your area using "triathlon race results" or some reasonable facsimile thereof.  You can see the splits of people who have raced events you might be considering racing in, or at least get a good barometer of what people can do in these races, with regards to 100m/y splits.  For mere mortals such as myself, I consider anything under 2:00/100m as a "good" time.  That will vary slightly depending on the athlete, tide, crowd, current, jelly fish, and of course, the length you are swimming.

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2008-02-05 1:15 AM
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running2far - 2008-02-04 8:11 PM

If you go ave above 1:20 per 100 average in a race you'll be towards the front....1:10 and faster you'll be leading most races...(age group)


Those numbers seem really fast to me. I looked up the olympic results from 04 (Here) and the fastest swim time I could find was 17:49, which comes out to 1:11 (hope my math is right there)

I converted that to yards and that came to 1:04...

looking back I guess those numbers hold up better than I thought.

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2008-02-05 5:18 AM
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idahodan - 2008-02-04 11:12 PM Well, your time smokes my "speed" of 2:00 per 100.

 

Same here 

2008-02-05 6:05 AM
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Subject: RE: What is considered a fast/avg 100 yard swim?
"Fast" times are probably slightly faster for men than women, too. My race averages are a probably in the 1:50 - 1:55/100 range, and that usually places me toward the front of the middle of the pack for my AG (hope that made sense - LOL!). Not super fast, but I'm pretty happy with that pace. If I can knock a few seconds off this season, that'll be great, but if not, I can live with that pace.
2008-02-05 6:16 AM
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jsnowash - 2008-02-05 7:05 AM "Fast" times are probably slightly faster for men than women, too.

Not really.  The swim is the great equalizer.  The top men and women come out of the water in very similar times (depending on race distances).

There were even a few Ironman races where there were pro women first out of the water (even ahead of the pro men).

I'd agree that anything in the 1:10 - 1:20 range will have you in the top 10% of the field.

2008-02-05 6:42 AM
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That may be true... I'm just stating what I've observed in local races with mere mortals, not elites or pros. I'll never be that fast, so it's all relative to me....
2008-02-05 7:14 AM
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I think it depends on what Tri you are looking at. Last year was my 1st year and I only did sprints.

In our local tris I swam in the 1:30's and came out of the water top 30 overall and top 10 women.

I am certainly no elite triathlete though and haven't done any "big" tri's yet. I will be doing those this summer so I will see where I stand.


2008-02-05 8:15 AM
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When you're looking at race results, unless it's really a top notch race-planner, keep in mind that the swim distances are typically the least accurately measured. Consequently, you'll see some races where the leaders supposedly averaged 1:15 per 100, and others where they supposedly averaged 1:02. I think that's much more likely a race distance issue, rather than a significant difference in the field. I agree with the above posters that if you're in the 1:10 to 1:20 you'll be very much toward the head of the field, and if you get down under 1:10 pace, you're probably in the top few racers in most events.

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2008-02-05 8:33 AM
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no matter how you calculate it I am a slowpoke...
2008-02-05 8:53 AM
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I'll echo a few statements here and add my own. Course lenght(accuracy) the type of start(deep water, beach) and where T1 is (or more correctly, where the timing mat is) are all going to effect ones time.

From my experience, anything below 1:30/100 is going to put you in pretty good company. Below 1:15 will put you in great company.
2008-02-05 9:04 AM
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Subject: RE: What is considered a fast/avg 100 yard swim?
I have to agree with everyone on here 1:30/100m to be "good" and 1:10-1:15/100m to be among the top.

2008-02-05 9:37 AM
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It seems to me too that times for an open water swim are going to be slower than times for a pool swim since there are no walls to push off of.


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paddle2paddle - 2008-02-05 10:37 AM

It seems to me too that times for an open water swim are going to be slower than times for a pool swim since there are no walls to push off of.


this may be true, but in open water you're also not changing directions 50 times so that might actually make it even? just a guess tho.
2008-02-05 9:44 AM
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When looking at times, be carefull at the races you are comparing too. You will see different times depending where the race are. Local smaller races in the country will have slower times than races in the bigger cities. If you look at the Lifetime Fitness Series race, you will have some very fast times.

Traditionaly, your typical races will be in the sub 1:15's/100's for a top 10. So I would have to agree with earlier post.

2008-02-05 9:48 AM
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Subject: RE: What is considered a fast/avg 100 yard swim?
newbie13 - 2008-02-05 10:41 AM

paddle2paddle - 2008-02-05 10:37 AM

It seems to me too that times for an open water swim are going to be slower than times for a pool swim since there are no walls to push off of.


this may be true, but in open water you're also not changing directions 50 times so that might actually make it even? just a guess tho.


Any approximation at how many seconds to subtract off your 100 pool time if you don't do flip turns?
2008-02-05 10:05 AM
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ohiost90 - 2008-02-05 9:53 AM I'll echo a few statements here and add my own. Course lenght(accuracy) the type of start(deep water, beach) and where T1 is (or more correctly, where the timing mat is) are all going to effect ones time. From my experience, anything below 1:30/100 is going to put you in pretty good company. Below 1:15 will put you in great company.

agreed.   My first tri had a significant uphill run/walk to the T1 timing mat after exiting the water.  must've been close to 1/4 of a mile.  the time spent getting to that mat was included in the swim time.

2008-02-05 10:29 AM
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Based on my local race experience.

Average pace for 800 - 1600 yards 

2:00 is average, 1:45-1:30 is good, Under 1:30 is fast. 

If you are just talking a single 100yard swim, then you are probably talking 1:00 for fast

 



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2008-02-05 10:37 AM
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newbie13 - 2008-02-05 7:41 AM
paddle2paddle - 2008-02-05 10:37 AM It seems to me too that times for an open water swim are going to be slower than times for a pool swim since there are no walls to push off of.
this may be true, but in open water you're also not changing directions 50 times so that might actually make it even? just a guess tho.

ALSO, lots of people wear a wesuit for the race and not in the pool.  So times could be about 10seconds/100 faster in the race results (more for MOP'ers and less for elite racers).  I assume that I will swim 5 to 10 seconds faster/100 during a race than any time trial I do in the pool - tested by wearing my wetsuit a couple times in the pool during a workout.

I also don't push off the wall as hard as I could.  I don't want the advantage, and it sometimes messes up my goggles unless they are really tight.

2008-02-05 10:55 AM
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Subject: RE: What is considered a fast/avg 100 yard swim?
In a 25 Meter lap pool (a little longer than 25 yards) I try to stay in the 30 second range. There fore a time of 2 minutes for 100 meters would be about normal for me. Of course the longer I go the slower I get.
2008-02-05 11:01 AM
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Aikidoman - 2008-02-05 10:37 AM

I also don't push off the wall as hard as I could.  I don't want the advantage, and it sometimes messes up my goggles unless they are really tight.



When you push off....look at your belly button....
2008-02-05 11:09 AM
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Don't forget that you can go hard during the swim and then won't have as much left for the bike and run. In the grand scheme of things, being 30 seconds behind in the swim but swimming efficiently and then passing the fast swimmers during the last stages of the run is better than shaving off that time in the swim by kicking too hard and wasting precious energy.

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