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2008-05-29 11:53 AM

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Another thread about pool vs. OWS swimming got me thinking I should do more OWS. There is a small lake not too far from me that allows OWS. In fact my next tri is there and the RD has the buoys already out for the race.

But should I swim alone? Do you OWS alone? There are usually people walking the trail along the side of the lake. I though about bring my wife and kids to watch and but I'd hate to have to drag them out there in the hot weather. I don't know many other triathletes to swim with.

In my OWS clinic it was mentioned that you should never swim alone. Then someone chimed in that what do you do in the event that someone is having trouble in the middle of the lake? Seriously, without life saving flotation devices, what can you do? Maybe if you are swimming right next to the person and notice you can do something. But if you are swimming far ahead or behind or on the shore I don't see that there is much you can do.


2008-05-29 11:58 AM
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I do occasionally. Parallel to the shore, not more than a few feet out of depth where I can stand, and usually not very far past public access. It does get to be a bit more like swimming laps, going back and forth, but you do get a lot of the benefit of OWS.

You should never OWS alone any place you can't get back from should something major happen to you (including a sudden injury that you'd never see coming).
2008-05-29 12:01 PM
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Subject: RE: Do you OWS alone?
Most times yes. Sometimes my wife will follow/lead in her kayak.
2008-05-29 12:08 PM
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I do my OWS alone. If I had someone with a kayak I'd take them, but I don't consider people on shore or other swimmers to be of any real safety value.

Two weeks ago when I took my first OWS I was concerned about the temperature so I strapped a body surfing board to my foot and drug it along behind. It impeded my kick a bit, but not too bad. I figured that if I got into trouble at least I would have something to grab onto for safety.

If I ever have to swim in an area where I'm worried about boat traffic, I'll tie a mylar balloon to my wetsuit zipper strap.
2008-05-29 12:11 PM
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garodgers - 2008-05-29 1:08 PM

If I ever have to swim in an area where I'm worried about boat traffic, I'll tie a mylar balloon to my wetsuit zipper strap.



That's not a bad idea... and if I did that, with my head in the water, I may not be able to hear that guy in the SUV yelling "GET OUT OF THE ROAD YOU FAT ".
2008-05-29 12:24 PM
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Here is my 2 cents.  NEVER NEVER swim Open Water alone.  Unless you are at a depth that you could stand up in and be ok. 

Always wear a bright colored swim cap. 

If I can't find someone to swim with you, then at least have them walk the shoreline as you swim.  My wife has done this several times.  In regards to what do you do in the middle of a lake even if you are swimming with someone and they are not right next to you.

When I swim with others, I constantly check to see that they are ok.  No, I'm not right next to them, but if something bad happens, I could get to them fairly quickly.  And if you're in good enough shape to be doing an OWS, you can probably tread water for a minute or two. 

Nothing prevents the catostraphic (sp), but don't be stupid and set yourself up either.



2008-05-29 12:29 PM
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Ill do it in places that I can stand up.  I would not risk it in water deeper than I can stand. 

I'm very fortunate to have a lake nearby that has a marked off area to keep boats away and is still deep enough where one can touch bottom.  You can swim a good mile in one lap this way.

2008-05-29 12:33 PM
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Marvarnett - 2008-05-29 10:24 AM

Here is my 2 cents.  NEVER NEVER swim Open Water alone.  Unless you are at a depth that you could stand up in and be ok. 

Always wear a bright colored swim cap. 

If I can't find someone to swim with you, then at least have them walk the shoreline as you swim.  My wife has done this several times.  In regards to what do you do in the middle of a lake even if you are swimming with someone and they are not right next to you.

When I swim with others, I constantly check to see that they are ok.  No, I'm not right next to them, but if something bad happens, I could get to them fairly quickly.  And if you're in good enough shape to be doing an OWS, you can probably tread water for a minute or two. 

Nothing prevents the catostraphic (sp), but don't be stupid and set yourself up either.

X2, even if you think you are a confident/competent swimmer.  I have been swimming a long time and had an unexpected and unanticipated medical emergency during the swim leg of a race. 

Just don't ever think "it'll never happen to me"

2008-05-29 12:44 PM
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ChrisM - 2008-05-29 1:33 PM

X2, even if you think you are a confident/competent swimmer. I have been swimming a long time and had an unexpected and unanticipated medical emergency during the swim leg of a race.

Just don't ever think "it'll never happen to me"




Hell, anyone can pull a back muscle without warning. Doesn't even have to be something like you experienced... one good muscular tweak in the right spot and a person can be pretty much immobilized.
2008-05-29 12:53 PM
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I agree that swimming alone is not a good idea where boats and especially jetskis might also operate.   I, however, really enjoy swimming the length of the cove at the lake house.   Twice I have persuaded Janicewhokeepsmehumble to accompany me for safety.  The first time, she drove the ski boat.  I swam down and turned around and expected to see her somewhere in the middle of the cove behind me.  I didn't see her at first.  Then, I saw her at a neighbor's dock and she was waving.  I swim to the dock and find that she has run over a mooring line and it is wrapped around the propellor.  It is amazing how hard it is to hold your breath long enough to untangle a rope after swimming a mile or so.  It was several years before I got her to accompany me again.  This time, I wanted her to paddle the canoe alongside me.  I jumped in and headed out.  No J in sight.  I swam the length of the cove and come back still no J.  I finally got back to the dock.  The canoe was tied up and she was gone.  Apparently the wind was blowing a bit.  With her paddling skills she had just gone in circles in the middle of the lake.  She said when she got back to the dock she was through.

I swim alone now.

TW

2008-05-29 1:05 PM
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Nope.  And technically, I don't ever swim alone in a pool either.  There is always at least one lifeguard on duty.  You just never know, and it's a risk that you might not be able to eliminate, but you can certainly mitigate.

For example, a very experienced triathlete was in the middle of a long workout in the pool the other day.  Then I notice she is holding onto the lane rope, pulling herself along toward the wall.  She hops out and her calves are knots.  She could barely get out of the pool.  If that would have happened alone in a lake...



2008-05-29 1:08 PM
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I have OWS alone before. Not that I wanted to but I just didn't have anyone to go with.  Where I swam though there were a lot of other triathletes so I would ask to tag along, thankfully they always said yes.  Now I got to a lake where there will be lifeguards so I feel much safer.  It's really stupid to swim by yourself, no matter how good you are. 
2008-05-29 1:16 PM
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tech_geezer - 2008-05-29 1:53 PM

I agree that swimming alone is not a good idea where boats and especially jetskis might also operate. I, however, really enjoy swimming the length of the cove at the lake house. Twice I have persuaded Janicewhokeepsmehumble to accompany me for safety. The first time, she drove the ski boat. I swam down and turned around and expected to see her somewhere in the middle of the cove behind me. I didn't see her at first. Then, I saw her at a neighbor's dock and she was waving. I swim to the dock and find that she has run over a mooring line and it is wrapped around the propellor. It is amazing how hard it is to hold your breath long enough to untangle a rope after swimming a mile or so. It was several years before I got her to accompany me again. This time, I wanted her to paddle the canoe alongside me. I jumped in and headed out. No J in sight. I swam the length of the cove and come back still no J. I finally got back to the dock. The canoe was tied up and she was gone. Apparently the wind was blowing a bit. With her paddling skills she had just gone in circles in the middle of the lake. She said when she got back to the dock she was through.

I swim alone now.

TW

 

Hilarious.  Janicewhomademespitonmykeyboard at least tried.  I told my wife I wanted her to paddle a canoe while I swam across a local lake.  She looked and me and said, "Across that thing?  You're an idiot".   

2008-05-29 1:45 PM
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I OWS alone rather frequently (several times a week this time of year).  Usually in shallow water, but not always.  I always tell someone I'm going out or have someone watch, but I only do that so that they would know where to look for my body if something happened.
2008-05-29 1:49 PM
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chadtower - 2008-05-29 11:58 AM I do occasionally. Parallel to the shore, not more than a few feet out of depth where I can stand, and usually not very far past public access. It does get to be a bit more like swimming laps, going back and forth, but you do get a lot of the benefit of OWS. You should never OWS alone any place you can't get back from should something major happen to you (including a sudden injury that you'd never see coming).

x2.  I still get the benefits of practicing sighting, by swimming from buoy to buoy trying to maintain the straightest line possible.  Also gives you the feel of swimming in a wetsuit...

2008-05-29 1:49 PM
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I do not.  I am lucky enough to be part of a tri club that does regular OWS practices as a group, so I'm going to do as many of those as I can this summer.


2008-05-29 2:06 PM
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I have but the lake where I swim has a shallow shoreline and I can stand up 25 yards from shore. Occasionally I talk someone into paddling the kayak beside me but it is more for boaters than atually saving me - the kayaker isn't trained as a lifeguard. There is another thread that has additional responses here.
2008-05-29 2:33 PM
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Artemis - 2008-05-29 7:49 PM I do not.  I am lucky enough to be part of a tri club that does regular OWS practices as a group, so I'm going to do as many of those as I can this summer.

Same for me. On a Saturday morning in the summer there are usually ~20 people down there. Not just from my club but a couple of other local ones too. I usually find someone who swims at about my pace to go round with. If not there are usually enough swimmers that someone would be close by if I got into trouble.

2008-05-29 3:13 PM
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Yes I probably will be doing at lest some of my OWS's alone in the sea...
2008-05-29 3:22 PM
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ForrestGump - 2008-05-29 4:13 PM

Yes I probably will be doing at lest some of my OWS's alone in the sea...



I was at the beach one time and someone told me that when training in the sea I should always bring a swim chum.

Of course, that guy had a fin and a whole lot of teeth.
2008-05-29 3:56 PM
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I have but bring a person along usually my husband who watches me from shore. Honestly what can he do if I have an issue?

Funny husband stories....once while swimming even with the beach in Fl, my husband saw two fins following me..turns out they were dolphins..so glad I didn't see them it would have totally freaked me out. I had a pink swim cap on and other tourists were commenting on the three dolphins out there playing with a pink ball then I stand up and walk to shore and they were really embarrassed.

Last summer we went to a place I swim a lot which has a tri in August. Normally I go with friends but this time I went alone. He really had no idea where we were so before I swam he kept asking me questions..what town are we in? What is the name of the park? Name of the pond? Finally it dawned on me he was being prepared if he had to call 911 to tell them where I was in case of emergency.

This year I invested in a rescue can which is hard yellow plastic thing I can put it over my shoulder and pull behind me swimming. In the next month I'll do 2x a week ows and some will be 1.75 hours long getting ready for my IM swim. None of my tri friends are interested in going that long, so I will swim at a State Forest that has lifeguards and just go back and forth along the buoys. Honestly it makes me feel safest as there is someone there just in case. My kids can play in the water and afterwards we often have a family bbq there so it makes for fun training and family time.

 



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2008-05-29 5:39 PM
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I'd hesitate to swim alone because I know I'm not the strongest swimmer around.  That said, if I were going to, I'd probably invest in something like this:  http://www.triaids.com/SwimSafe.htm

 

2008-05-29 5:50 PM
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I do OWS alone in a lake that is about a mile long and half mile wide at the widest. I usually have no choice but to swim alone but do wear a wetsuit. I probably would not be as confident with the experience if I did not wear a wetsuit. It doesn't take much effort to stay afloat with the extra bouyancy. I would not swim alone in the ocean, on a river, or in a lake that was much larger. I also would be less inclined to swim in a body of water that allowed motorized vessels. The rowboats, kayaks, and windsurfers are dangerous enough.
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AcesFull - 2008-05-29 5:59 PM

Sometimes, I mean, I'm married and all, but the wife is tired some nights or unavailable so sometimes you gotta... oh, wait, you meant something else. No, I never do THAT alone.


I can totally picture that. A little wine... some nice mood lighting from the monitor... one thing leads to another...

OW OW OW OW OW OW





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