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2008-06-30 11:12 AM

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Took my 7 year old boy to see it this weekend.  Typically EXCELLENT Pixar animation and attention to detail.

At one point a character races across the sreen into the distance and the "camera" follows him and looses "focus" for a second and then readjusts, just as a real camera might.  Little things like this are amazing to me.

However I did not think this one was as funny as some of the others.  It got a couple of laughs out of me but I just did not think it was as well written as some of the others.  Maybe it was due to the lack of dialogue.  Just seemed a bit slow in places.  Of course this is such a MINOR criticism to great movie.

Oh yeah, it also had some, not so subtle, lessons about consumerism (which is funny considering the number of plastic toy ties-in there are bound to be).

And there are plenty of "Easter eggs" (references to past Pixar films) hidden in the film.  I'm sure i missed a few but the wife and I caught several of them.

Regardless it's still better than 99% of the other junk out there.

My boy LOVED it...

Any one else have a chance to see it?



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2008-06-30 11:23 AM
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I took my 5 year old boy to see it. He'd been wanting to see it and already had gotten a Wall E t-shirt. (in retrospect - not sure if his wanting to see it was influenced by me) He liked it but thought it was sort of boring...not enough action-hero-wam-bam-beat-em-up stuff.

Anyhow - I LOVED IT! I thought it was done so cleverly without much dialogue (esp. when just the robots interacted with each other or with the audience). The robot-speak between WallE and Eva (which apparently was not the same robot language) reminded me of how I've communicated basic needs or wants to someone who does not speak English and when there is an understanding - it's a EUREKA feeling! I laughed, I almost cried, and enjoyed the message about overconsumption and waste.

I wish I could have a little WALL E. He was so sweet! (Big Awwww!)

2008-06-30 11:39 AM
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My wife and I went and saw it, no kids, just wanted to see it.  We both thought it was very good, but I agree it was slow at times with the lack of dialogue.  The not so hidden messages made me laugh since it seemed that they were taking a hit at Wal-Mart and Society as a hole, taking advantage of everthing without thinking of the repercautions.  As a hole I thought it was excellent and possibly eye opening to some people who haven't be watching what can potentially happen to our planet it we don't start paying better atention.
2008-06-30 11:43 AM
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Went and saw it with the wife and my two boys.. My younger son and I liked the movie.. My wife and older son thought it was too "kiddie"..
2008-06-30 11:59 AM
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2008-06-30 12:00 PM
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I saw it this weekend with my bf and another friend, and we all adored it. I'll disagree with the OP and say I thought it was very well written, and very well executed. I think they did an amazing job of conveying personality, emotion, and even humanity without any dialogue to speak of. One of the things that really impressed me is that it wasn't just a movie with flashy animation. The animation was, to be sure, fantastic--but they've got the tech side of things down so solidly that they're free to explore and produce a great story. There were also tons of little things that popped up and entertained me. (I was particularly tickled by the use of the Apple boot tone.) It must be great fun to be on their creative team. 


2008-06-30 12:07 PM
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TriRSquared - 2008-06-30 11:12 AM

Took my 7 year old boy to see it this weekend.  Typically EXCELLENT Pixar animation and attention to detail.

At one point a character races across the sreen into the distance and the "camera" follows him and looses "focus" for a second and then readjusts, just as a real camera might.  Little things like this are amazing to me.

However I did not think this one was as funny as some of the others.  It got a couple of laughs out of me but I just did not think it was as well written as some of the others.  Maybe it was due to the lack of dialogue.  Just seemed a bit slow in places.  Of course this is such a MINOR criticism to great movie.

Oh yeah, it also had some, not so subtle, lessons about consumerism (which is funny considering the number of plastic toy ties-in there are bound to be).

And there are plenty of "Easter eggs" (references to past Pixar films) hidden in the film.  I'm sure i missed a few but the wife and I caught several of them.

Regardless it's still better than 99% of the other junk out there.

My boy LOVED it...

Any one else have a chance to see it?

Please explain this one.  What don't I know about Pixar movies and Easter eggs?

2008-06-30 12:07 PM
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I thought it was the most adult of any of the mainstream animated movies in recent history..I loved it. The repeat glimpses of 'Hello Dolly' could have left a lot of little kids squirming in their seats but the thing was so dadgum artfully done..

The genius of animation now is that appreciation of the movie is totally in the eye of whatever generation is watching it..Tons of inside references for adults who are paying attention, tons of sight gags for kids. Really just absurdly good film making.
2008-06-30 12:08 PM
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My wife, my 4-yr old son (who was bored by Kung Fu Panda), and I really liked it. I also thought the message was clearly conveyed without it hitting you over the heard.

There was something ironic about (spoiler coming) sitting in a big comfy chair, staring at a screen, surrounded by people drinking out of mammoth movie-theatre drink cups and watching a movie about how Earth is basically destroyed because all people want to do is sit in a chair, stare at a screen, and drink crap out of big cups.
2008-06-30 12:11 PM
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Saw it on Friday with the whole family. Likewise, I really enjoyed it, though I didn't find any disappointments.

Funy enough, though, this was one that I wasn't thrilled about seeing after the trailers -- I went more out of family obligation than anything else. But I really enjoyed it.

2008-06-30 12:52 PM
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I am a huge fan of Pixar movies and loved this one just as much as I loved every one of the previous movies. They do such an excellent job of outdoing themselves every time.

I have always appreciated the writing they put into their movies most importantly because they don't rely on cultural references to carry the movie. (Imagine what Ratatouille would have been like with a break dancing rat) They tend to instead, invent their own culture in the movies seem to stick true to the idea. Still, the culture that they do create does have some interesting similarities.

One thing they do with every movie is to stretch the boundaries of what is possible with CG animation. In "Monster's Inc.", it was Fur. In "Incredibles", it was realistic looking people as main characters. In this one, the Flame seems to be a big one. (Animating a realistic flame has to be tough and certainly not done well before this)

Definitely one of the best. Heck, if they can get us all to love a rat that cooks, getting us to love a couple of machines would seem to be pretty easy. (But I am sure it was not)



2008-06-30 12:59 PM
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We saw it Sat night and spent the rest of the weekend talking like Wall-e and Eve.  Such a sweet movie. 

 

I heard a really good review about it on NPR on Friday morning, which is what made me want to see it badly enough to brave the crowds.  Lots of nods to other movie robots, as well as Charlie Chaplin. 

2008-06-30 12:59 PM
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tupuppy - 2008-06-30 1:07 PM

And there are plenty of "Easter eggs" (references to past Pixar films) hidden in the film.  I'm sure i missed a few but the wife and I caught several of them.

Please explain this one.  What don't I know about Pixar movies and Easter eggs?

Pixar has a habit of putting references from older movies into newer ones.  For example the PizzaPlanet truck has appeared in all of their movies.  Rex and Hammy fromtoy story are in WALLE as well (on WALLE's wheel-o-junk)

A quick Google search turns up some of the "Easter eggs" in WALLE.  There are others as well like the Apple boot music when WALLE reboots.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/06/27/wall-e-easter-eggs/

If this is the first you are hearing about this then you will want to do a search on the easter eggs and then go back and WATCH every single PIXAR movie.  There are TONS of hidden gems in each of them.  Half the fun is trying to spot the hidden things.

Just found this as well (kind of a backwards easter egg).  Not so sure about some of them.  A little blurry in places..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaNQnJFq-1o



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jmk-brooklyn - 2008-06-30 1:08 PM My wife, my 4-yr old son (who was bored by Kung Fu Panda), and I really liked it. I also thought the message was clearly conveyed without it hitting you over the heard. There was something ironic about (spoiler coming) sitting in a big comfy chair, staring at a screen, surrounded by people drinking out of mammoth movie-theatre drink cups and watching a movie about how Earth is basically destroyed because all people want to do is sit in a chair, stare at a screen, and drink crap out of big cups.

We thought the same thing.

2008-06-30 1:04 PM
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And don't get me wrong.  I liked the movie.  I just thought it was not a good as some of the other Pixar movies. 

That's like saying that the  guy who comes in last in the Olympic 100m is slow.  It's all relative.

2008-06-30 1:23 PM
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We took our 6 and 4 year old to see it this weekend.  We all give it a "so-so" review.  Yes, better then 90% of the dredge that is out there, but for a movie that was pretty preachy about what could happen if we do not take care of our planet, they did not offer much in the way of a solution.  Unless of course we are supposed to wait 700 years for a cute Charlie Chaplinesque robot to save us all.  ;-p


2008-06-30 3:26 PM
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Fatdoggy - 2008-06-30 2:23 PM We took our 6 and 4 year old to see it this weekend.  We all give it a "so-so" review.  Yes, better then 90% of the dredge that is out there, but for a movie that was pretty preachy about what could happen if we do not take care of our planet, they did not offer much in the way of a solution.  Unless of course we are supposed to wait 700 years for a cute Charlie Chaplinesque robot to save us all.  ;-p

 Oh, right, it wasn't an animated movie, it was a social science lecture complete with a slideshow illustrating what we can do to save the planet.

I think the documentaries were being shown at the art theater.



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Fatdoggy - 2008-06-30 2:23 PM We took our 6 and 4 year old to see it this weekend. We all give it a "so-so" review. Yes, better then 90% of the dredge that is out there, but for a movie that was pretty preachy about what could happen if we do not take care of our planet, they did not offer much in the way of a solution. Unless of course we are supposed to wait 700 years for a cute Charlie Chaplinesque robot to save us all. ;-p

Oh, right, it wasn't an animated movie, it was a social science lecture complete with a slideshow illustrating what we can do to save the planet.

I think the documentaries were being shown at the art theater.

If yer gonna preach or get on a soapbox on something in any form, then offer a solution or shattap.  BTW, ya may wanna note the little ----> ;-p <------- in my post.

2008-06-30 6:07 PM
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Fatdoggy - 2008-06-30 3:31 PM

roch1009 - 2008-06-30 4:26 PM <p>
Fatdoggy - 2008-06-30 2:23 PM We took our 6 and 4 year old to see it this weekend. We all give it a "so-so" review. Yes, better then 90% of the dredge that is out there, but for a movie that was pretty preachy about what could happen if we do not take care of our planet, <font color="#0033cc">they did not offer much in the way of a solution</font>. Unless of course we are supposed to wait 700 years for a cute Charlie Chaplinesque robot to save us all. ;-p<br />
</p><p><font color="#ff0000"> Oh, right, it wasn't an animated movie, it was a social science lecture complete with a slideshow illustrating what we can do to save the planet.</font></p><p><font color="#ff0000">I think the documentaries were being shown at the art theater.</font></p><p>
</p><p>If yer gonna preach or get on a soapbox on something in any form, then offer a solution or shattap. BTW, ya may wanna note the little ----> ;-p <------- in my post.<br /></p>

I think Roch was going for the sarcastic font but forgot the <i>
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Fatdoggy - 2008-06-30 4:31 PM
roch1009 - 2008-06-30 4:26 PM

Fatdoggy - 2008-06-30 2:23 PM We took our 6 and 4 year old to see it this weekend. We all give it a "so-so" review. Yes, better then 90% of the dredge that is out there, but for a movie that was pretty preachy about what could happen if we do not take care of our planet, they did not offer much in the way of a solution. Unless of course we are supposed to wait 700 years for a cute Charlie Chaplinesque robot to save us all. ;-p

Oh, right, it wasn't an animated movie, it was a social science lecture complete with a slideshow illustrating what we can do to save the planet.

I think the documentaries were being shown at the art theater.

If yer gonna preach or get on a soapbox on something in any form, then offer a solution or shattap.  BTW, ya may wanna note the little ----> ;-p <------- in my post.

Holy cow man - seriously, you don't remember a little film by Al Gore?

Get it now?

My other reply was:

I know.  I was pissed when The Incredibles didn't show us a REAL solution for dealing with Arch Enemies.

(Note the red, and now, italics)

2008-06-30 8:21 PM
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roch1009 - 2008-06-30 8:31 PM
Fatdoggy - 2008-06-30 4:31 PM
roch1009 - 2008-06-30 4:26 PM

Fatdoggy - 2008-06-30 2:23 PM We took our 6 and 4 year old to see it this weekend. We all give it a "so-so" review. Yes, better then 90% of the dredge that is out there, but for a movie that was pretty preachy about what could happen if we do not take care of our planet, they did not offer much in the way of a solution. Unless of course we are supposed to wait 700 years for a cute Charlie Chaplinesque robot to save us all. ;-p

Oh, right, it wasn't an animated movie, it was a social science lecture complete with a slideshow illustrating what we can do to save the planet.

I think the documentaries were being shown at the art theater.

If yer gonna preach or get on a soapbox on something in any form, then offer a solution or shattap.  BTW, ya may wanna note the little ----> ;-p <------- in my post.

Holy cow man - seriously, you don't remember a little film by Al Gore?

Get it now?

My other reply was:

I know.  I was pissed when The Incredibles didn't show us a REAL solution for dealing with Arch Enemies.

(Note the red, and now, italics)

I heard that even though the Gore flick wasn't animated by Disney/Pixar it was not believable. :-)

And The Incredibles did SO show a real solution to dealing wiuth arch enemies.  Beat the snot outta them.  ;-p



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2008-07-01 12:51 PM
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i read that this movie has gotten mouthbreathers like jonah goldberg and glenn beck up in arms. i never see animated movies in the theater, but that right there is almost enough to get me to plunk down a few bucks for a matinee, even if disney is an evil empire.
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jimbo - 2008-07-01 1:51 PM i read that this movie has gotten mouthbreathers like jonah goldberg and glenn beck up in arms. i never see animated movies in the theater, but that right there is almost enough to get me to plunk down a few bucks for a matinee, even if disney is an evil empire.

I admit I had to Google these names to find out who they are.  Found this where they, and others, rant about wall-e:

http://www.woodka.com/

:-)

Also, since no one else has posted it yet.... Johnny 5 from the 80s flick "Short Circuit" and WALL-E...separated at birth? ;-)





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Fatdoggy - 2008-07-01 1:05 PM

Also, since no one else has posted it yet.... Johnny 5 from the 80s flick "Short Circuit" and WALL-E...separated at birth? ;-)



I thought so too when I first saw the previews! From the article you referenced, this doesn't make sense to me:

Shannen Coffin: From the first moment of the film, my kids were bombarded with leftist propaganda about the evils of mankind. It’s a shame, too, because the robot had promise. The story was just awful, however.

As a "right-winger" I thought it was our position that man is evil? Psalm 14:3 "They have all turned aside, together they have become corrupt; There is none who does good, not even one." Genesis 6:5 "The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time."

How is this leftist propoganda?
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