Do people literally run themself thin?
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2008-11-25 3:35 PM |
Expert 966 Decatur | Subject: Do people literally run themself thin? I've been thinking of this lately? anyone? have you done this? |
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2008-11-25 4:00 PM in reply to: #1826000 |
Expert 810 Southeast | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? Combined with a decent diet, yes, many people have done this. I'm sure you'll hear lots of stories here about folks who lost umpteen pounds by training and eating right. Many can lose some weight by just eaing better, or by just exercising more, but the two in combination are more than the su of the parts. Briefly: weight loss isn't brought on so much the calories that you consume while running -- most of us replenish those pretty quickly. Rather, the weight-loss benefit from exercise seems to come from the fact that the exercise keeps your metabolism boosted. Without it, your body will tend to suppress metabolism when your caloric intake goes down -- its way preparing for what seem to it to be impending lean times, so to speak. Warning: it is difficult to have absolutely top quality workouts while you are losing weight, because the caloric deficit tends to make you tired. This doesn't mean you can't run; it just means you might not be able to do that 6x1200 LT intervals workout as strongly as you hoped... Edited by mdickson68 2008-11-25 4:01 PM |
2008-11-25 4:01 PM in reply to: #1826000 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? It is just like anything else. More calories out then calories in = weight loss. It may not be the fastest way to lose weight, but it is easy to do over a long stretch. I went from 230-ish in '04 when I finally got back onto a bike and road around 1,300 miles that year. Then the next year I pretty much only ran and trained for a marathon. By the end of '05 I was back down to the mid 180's. So 50 pounds in a bit less than 2 years by just cycling and running. Now at peak events when I'm training hard I can see as low as 169 or so. My ideal is 175. All done only by S/B/R. I do not do any weights or any other alternative training. And I eat like crap most of the time (like my 1,200 calorie Fajita Burrito from Chipotle I had for lunch today). |
2008-11-25 4:09 PM in reply to: #1826000 |
Extreme Veteran 638 Carlsbad, CA | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? In combination with a much better diet, I've dropped almost 90 pounds since last February primarily from cycling. I was wary about what running might do to my knees until I lost the weight, so I stuck with the bike and picked up swimming along the way. Running is getting stronger and much more enjoyable every day. 10 - 20 more pounds and I'm there! |
2008-11-25 4:12 PM in reply to: #1826000 |
Champion 10471 Dallas, TX | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? |
2008-11-25 4:12 PM in reply to: #1826000 |
New Haven, CT | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? I am not sure what you mean. If you run you will burn calories. If you burn more calories than you eat, you will lose weight. Eventually you become thin if you keep doing that, be it by running, swimming, biking or snow shoeing. Best of luck. |
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2008-11-25 4:17 PM in reply to: #1826000 |
Expert 973 Berkeley, Calif. | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? Over two years, I lost about 50 pounds through tri training, but I was also being very careful about what I ate. I wouldn't say I was dieting, just trying to eat very healthy and not overdo it on the calories. The past three or four months I've been training for my first marathon and haven't lost anything. But I'd reached my goal weight by the time I started training and wasn't actively trying to lose weight, and I wanted to make sure I was getting plenty of food to sustain the training load. (I also allowed myself to indulge quite a bit -- whatever, I was training hard, I'd earned it!) I guess my point is, yes, you can aboslutely "run yourself thin," but it'll probably take more than running alone, and whether you can do that and also train at your best, I don't know. I suspect I could have eaten plenty over the last few months and still lost weight if I'd just been more thoughtful about what I ate. |
2008-11-25 4:18 PM in reply to: #1826000 |
Champion 5575 Butler | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? If nothing else I have maintained. I hit my max of 240 and am 215 now. I was about 200 at my lowest (in recent years). I eat pretty badly but train alot so I at least have leveled out. |
2008-11-25 4:19 PM in reply to: #1826000 |
Expert 966 Decatur | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? I know my question sounds crazy. But I intially started thinking about it after I heard a colleague say it. Now it's been stuck in my head. I guess I really don't know how to explain it... |
2008-11-25 4:29 PM in reply to: #1826000 |
Champion 5575 Butler | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? I think I understand your question. When I hear thin, I think normal. When some people hear thin they think eating disorder thin with bones showing. I think if you train right and eat right you will be healthy and have muscle etc so you will look athletic not anorexic. |
2008-11-25 4:31 PM in reply to: #1826037 |
Champion 8540 the colony texas | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? i think it was Rick/Daremo that already said it but it's all about calories, I gained weight training for marathons since I thought I could eat more. So until I started stepping on the scale I was running myself fat, It doesn't mean you need to starve yourself but it you burn more than you take in you will lose weight, and over a period of time, (seconds.minutes) you will lose weight |
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2008-11-25 4:40 PM in reply to: #1826000 |
Champion 19812 MA | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? A bit off topic, but I talked to a coach who coached a number of couples training for IM. They trained together and ate mostly the same food. In this coach's experience the men lost weight and women actually gained weight. I followed the training of lots of BT women this past year that were training for their first IM, I wouldn't say any of them easily lost weight..most struggled and wanted to drop a few pounds but most didn't get to where they hoped to be. |
2008-11-25 4:46 PM in reply to: #1826000 |
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2008-11-25 5:08 PM in reply to: #1826000 |
Expert 2555 Colorado Springs, Colorado | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? Yes, I have done this but it takes more running than most people do. I didn't see the effect at all until I was consistently running 50+ mile/week. Over the course of about 6 months I lost 20 pounds without changing my eating habits at all. It works out to just less than a pound a week, so it's not rapid weight loss, but weight loss was not really a goal of mine - it was just a byproduct of what I was doing. I don't know if there would have been a point where the weight loss stopped because I stopped running so much for a few months and gained some back. In recent months I have once again ramped up the mileage and the weight is decreasing once again. I now have a (hopefully) short term injury, but should be able to resume my higher mileage running in a few weeks. Last year through the consistent higher mielage running I was able to get through the entire holiday season without gaining any weight - in fact I lost weight despite not changing my eating. However, if you're looking to lose a large amount of weight quickly this approach may not be the best - especially since running this much would be very difficult for a very overweight person. I would suggest utilizing the bike primarily until enough weight has been lost for higher mileage running to even be attempted. About 8 years ago that's what I did and I lost 50 pounds in 4 months. However that still required a substantial committment to both biking and dieting as I biked about 150+ miles/weekly, and combined it with a lower calorie diet. |
2008-11-25 5:59 PM in reply to: #1826000 |
Champion 5781 Northridge, California | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? The bulk of my 75 lb. weight loss was a combination of diet and running. First 4 mos., I just dieted. Then added daily walking for another 4 months. Then running, building up over about 9 mos. to 7 days a week (and to 20 mi/wk, then to 35-40 mi/wk at the point that I started tri training). Running alone won't do it, really: Sensible diet is necessary. Too many people (IMO) "run to eat", rather than "eat to run." If you take in as much as you run off, you won't lose anything. |
2008-11-25 6:02 PM in reply to: #1826000 |
Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? I'm a weird case...when I train I crave healthy foods, and when I don't train I crave weird junk stuff. So, for me to loose weight I have to train (run, bike or swim). |
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2008-11-25 6:16 PM in reply to: #1826238 |
Extreme Veteran 589 Gig Harbor | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? Havin'Fun - 2008-11-25 4:02 PM I'm a weird case...when I train I crave healthy foods, and when I don't train I crave weird junk stuff. So, for me to loose weight I have to train (run, bike or swim). x2 - I have to keep up a very busy regime of working out OR ELSE....Flaming Hot Cheetohs with Lime start looking really good!!!! |
2008-11-25 6:33 PM in reply to: #1826000 |
Master 2125 | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? Started in Nov 2006 at about 180. Got down to 170 by the spring of 2007. By Jan 2008 I was down to 165. Going into Kona, I got down to 148. I'm back up to 155. All done through SBR. Biggest week during IM training was 17 hours. And I eat like absolute crap. |
2008-11-25 6:41 PM in reply to: #1826000 |
Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? 210+pounds 3 years ago - 3yrs straight running = 165 lbs at one point. 174lbs right now. |
2008-11-25 7:23 PM in reply to: #1826000 |
Veteran 361 North Carolina Foothills | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? I train between 7 and 10 hours a week, every week. I am nothing if not consistent. I maintain a weight of about 142lbs or so in the spring/summer and balloon to about 146lbs or so in the winter and have done so for the past seven years or so since I began cycling. I do eat carefully, but if I want a pizza or burger every now or then I have it. People think I am nuts when I say this, but I have found that thru my training, my body pretty much always tells me how much I need to eat. Somedays its more and somedays less, but I don't seem to have a problem maintaining my training weight where it is. I think a consistent training plan, along with a consistent healthy diet (with some non-healthy stuff in moderation) will help anyone reach and maintain their target weight. For me, consistency has been the key. |
2008-11-25 7:38 PM in reply to: #1826137 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? PennState - 2008-11-25 5:46 PM Using my example (of running close to 200 miles a month) I put 12 lbs on from my IM weight, so it is possible to run yourself NOT-thin Damn Fred, what the hell are you eating??? At the peak of marathon training is when my wife starts to get REALLY upset with my training because I'm so thin ....... |
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2008-11-25 7:39 PM in reply to: #1826137 |
Expert 966 Decatur | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? PennState - 2008-11-25 5:46 PM Using my example (of running close to 200 miles a month) I put 12 lbs on from my IM weight, so it is possible to run yourself NOT-thin And this was exactly my point to her. I've been at this too long and know too many "runners" who typically gain weight especially when training for marathons. (we were talking about my running). I tried to "discuss" her theory, but you know those people who just don't hear you. personally, my body is responding to the running yes. But I'm no fool. I know I have to watch my food intake and add in some other activity to finish with my weightloss. She just made me so mad. First, commenting on me...then by not hearing me out. |
2008-11-25 7:43 PM in reply to: #1826000 |
Expert 1194 | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? I hope to run off about 15lbs by New Orleans 70.3, that will put me at a lean 170. Its just so hard to make myself eat good enough to get down there. I got to 168lbs last year for a couple of days, then back up to 180ish. |
2008-11-25 7:49 PM in reply to: #1826000 |
Master 1572 PA | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? I went from a size 10 to a 4 in 8 weeks, most will say too fast, but it worked for me. I'm stiill at the same 4 over a year later. Probably 90% of my fat loss came from following a nutrition plan to the letter, not from the exercise. However a$$ whooping workouts made me WANT to stick to that nutrition plan. Each day I had a little less weight to carry. I just kept thinking about 10 lbs. being close to the weight of a gallon of milk. I do not even want to run 1 mile carrying a gallon of milk, let along 5 or 6 miles. Hence, motivation to keep my nutrition tight and keep it off! You're doing great! All about finding out what works for you....then stick with it! |
2008-11-25 8:03 PM in reply to: #1826000 |
Master 2460 | Subject: RE: Do people literally run themself thin? Agree with most of the posts above. Especially in that running boost your baseline metabolism if you train enough - you will tend to naturally eat the same amount of calories you burn otherwise. In the NOVA PBS special, 12 non-runners were trained over 6 months to run the Boston marathon. In a midcycle test, all of them had nearly doubled their baseline VO2, lactate threshold, and other measures of physical performance. But almost everyone's weight was stable, except for the one large lady who was actively dieting on top. Ironically, it may be easier to lose weight faster by not training and dieting hard. (This is almost definitely not healthier though, and not a preferred method for good health.) |
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