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 2009-06-16 9:37 AM |
Regular 60 |  Subject: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot?Studies show that most people who struggle with arch problems typically have overpronation of the foot, meaning that their arch essentially droops and their feet tend to roll in. However, another condition, oversupination, is the exact opposite: due to a high arch, one's foot tends to roll out, causing the outer part of their foot to bear the majority of the load. Lots of shoes are made for overpronators, but there is a much smaller market for oversupinators. My question is, what do you oversupinators run in? |
| 2009-06-16 9:41 AM in reply to: #2220886 |
Pro 5011  Twin Cities | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? I run in a neutral shoe, or a very very mild stability shoe. Currently, that is Asics Speedstars, Asics DS Trainers, and the Asics Trail Attack 5. |
| 2009-06-16 9:46 AM in reply to: #2220886 |
| Regular 60 | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? And you're a supinator? Anyone tried superfeet? |
| 2009-06-16 10:18 AM in reply to: #2220916 |
Master 2702   CHINA GROVE N.C., North Carolina | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? supinator here... ASICS Gel Cumulus have worked well for me. |
| 2009-06-16 10:39 AM in reply to: #2221052 |
Elite 3658 Roswell, GA | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? tri42 - 2009-06-16 11:18 AM supinator here... ASICS Gel Cumulus have worked well for me. x2
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| 2009-06-16 10:44 AM in reply to: #2220886 |
| 6 | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? I have the same problem, the best shoe I've found is the Brooks Defyance. It's a neutral cushioned shoe. |
| 2009-06-16 10:52 AM in reply to: #2220886 |
Expert 2555 Colorado Springs, Colorado | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? I train in Nike Air Pegasus and they work good for me. I race in various flats, currently Adidas AdiZero Mana for longer races and AdiZero Pro for shorter. A running coach told me to stay away from any kind of stability shoe. |
| 2009-06-16 1:00 PM in reply to: #2220886 |
| Regular 60 | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? Thanks for the suggestions so far. I have an older model of the Asics Landreth's, which has a similar profile to the Cumulus, but it still isn't enough for me.... Any other shoe brands give pronation ratings like Asics does? |
| 2009-06-16 1:16 PM in reply to: #2220886 |
Giver 18427 | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? Generally speaking, if you're an under-pronator, you want a show with as little support as possible. When your arch doesn't collapse under weight, you lose a lot of the natural shock absorption feet that pronate normally provide. Therefore, you want to don't want to discourage any flexing of the arch that might occur. Also, you want more cushioning, since you're relying more on your show to do what your foot is supposed to be doing. So...long story short...cushioned neutral shoes are what to look for--and progressively more cushioning the heavier you are. |
| 2009-06-16 1:30 PM in reply to: #2220886 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? jss8422 - 2009-06-16 9:37 AM Studies show that most people who struggle with arch problems typically have overpronation of the foot, meaning that their arch essentially droops and their feet tend to roll in. However, another condition, oversupination, is the exact opposite: due to a high arch, one's foot tends to roll out, causing the outer part of their foot to bear the majority of the load. Lots of shoes are made for overpronators, but there is a much smaller market for oversupinators. My question is, what do you oversupinators run in? you have no logs so who knows how much your run, however do you currently exeperience injuries with your current running shoes? |
| 2009-06-16 2:13 PM in reply to: #2221144 |
Champion 10742 Ames, IA | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? brown_dog_us - 2009-06-16 10:39 AM tri42 - 2009-06-16 11:18 AM supinator here... ASICS Gel Cumulus have worked well for me. x2
X3. Been trying different ones for awhile and just found these. I like em |
| 2009-06-16 2:33 PM in reply to: #2221189 |
Veteran 124 San Jose, CA | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? i've also run in nike air pegasus for the past 3 pairs. it works really well for me. i also use inserts from the walking store. i had my foot analyzed there and they recommended the sport inserts (the red ones) and they feel great. |
| 2009-06-16 2:49 PM in reply to: #2220886 |
| 798 | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? I run mostly in Saucony ProGrid Triumphs. I recently picked up some Grid Sinisters that I'm going to do shorter races in. Over the weekend I tried on some Nike Luna Trainers on. They felt very promising, just not a big Nike fan. |
| 2009-06-16 2:57 PM in reply to: #2221160 |
Elite 2645 Phoenix, AZ | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? Amen to this. Defyance made running fun again. I wish I didn't run on the outside of my feet, it's hard to break. It seems to start at the hips.
richardrbh1981 - 2009-06-16 8:44 AM I have the same problem, the best shoe I've found is the Brooks Defyance. It's a neutral cushioned shoe. |
| 2009-06-16 5:51 PM in reply to: #2220886 |
Elite 3201 South Florida | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? My feet go way tot he outside edge. I have Asics Gel Landreth but am about to go shopping and would like to find something new to try. I'll have to write some of these ideas down to bring to the store. |
| 2009-06-16 8:16 PM in reply to: #2221798 |
| Regular 60 | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? JorgeM - 2009-06-16 2:30 PM jss8422 - 2009-06-16 9:37 AM Studies show that most people who struggle with arch problems typically have overpronation of the foot, meaning that their arch essentially droops and their feet tend to roll in. However, another condition, oversupination, is the exact opposite: due to a high arch, one's foot tends to roll out, causing the outer part of their foot to bear the majority of the load. Lots of shoes are made for overpronators, but there is a much smaller market for oversupinators. My question is, what do you oversupinators run in? you have no logs so who knows how much your run, however do you currently exeperience injuries with your current running shoes? Always been a lifter, as I played contact sports in high school and am just starting to really get my endurance up again. Thus, I don't keep detailed cardio logs. In my prime, about 2 years ago, I was running approximately 5 miles daily (nothing close to most of you guys, I know). I've never had injuries other than osgood schlotter in my youth and occasional shin splint flare ups when I've trained too much and recovered too little. However, my ankles rotate heavily to the outside, and running on trails with some of my current shoes often pushes my ankles' limits, as they feel like they could roll quite easily. I'm looking for a shoe to increase my stability; something that will neutralize my supination. I don't think a "neutral" cushioning shoe alone works... |
| 2009-06-16 9:18 PM in reply to: #2220886 |
Extreme Veteran 510 Falls Church, VA | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? I supinate and use Mizuno neutral cushioning shoes. I originally planned to use the precisions for shorter runs and track workouts, the creations for very long runs and the Riders for everything in between. But have really started to love running in the precisions and even used them in my recent HIM. Not that I'd recommend it, but I'd do it again, but I'm a gluttun for punishment in races. |
| 2009-06-17 7:12 AM in reply to: #2220886 |
Regular 52 Tallinn, Estonia | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? Asics Nimbus - good stuff, feels like running on clouds. Mizuno Waveriders - also good stuff, but 2x cheaper than Asics. |
| 2009-06-17 9:40 AM in reply to: #2222840 |
Giver 18427 | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? jss8422 - 2009-06-16 9:16 PM However, my ankles rotate heavily to the outside, and running on trails with some of my current shoes often pushes my ankles' limits, as they feel like they could roll quite easily. I'm looking for a shoe to increase my stability; something that will neutralize my supination. I don't think a "neutral" cushioning shoe alone works... You're going to have a really hard time finding shoes with lateral stability mechanisms. Maybe a brace? Or maybe the rolling to the outside thing you're experiencing is less a physiological issue and more of a biomechanical/technique issue? For instance...the next time you go for a run, concentrate on pushing off with your big toe and see what happens. |
| 2009-06-17 12:35 PM in reply to: #2220886 |
| Regular 60 | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? Never thought about that. THANKS! Will post back with my results come next run. |
| 2009-06-17 12:38 PM in reply to: #2223875 |
Elite 4108 Calgary,AB,Canada | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? run4yrlif - 2009-06-17 8:40 AM jss8422 - 2009-06-16 9:16 PM However, my ankles rotate heavily to the outside, and running on trails with some of my current shoes often pushes my ankles' limits, as they feel like they could roll quite easily. I'm looking for a shoe to increase my stability; something that will neutralize my supination. I don't think a "neutral" cushioning shoe alone works... You're going to have a really hard time finding shoes with lateral stability mechanisms. Maybe a brace? Or maybe the rolling to the outside thing you're experiencing is less a physiological issue and more of a biomechanical/technique issue? For instance...the next time you go for a run, concentrate on pushing off with your big toe and see what happens. I had something similar to this. I always walked on the outside of my feet. When I got into running it became unbearable to try to run. Always tripping over myself. When to a Foot clinic. turns out I have bowed tibias. Got some custom made orthotics, and now I run like the wind...Haven't had an issue since. |
| 2009-06-17 3:26 PM in reply to: #2220886 |
Regular 310 Seymour, IN | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? The "Wind" Trevor?!?!? Don't make me copy the Team 1 spreadsheet over here. I also am afflicted with the supination. Although it's relatively mild. My podiatrist insert some small wedges on the outer rear corner of my running shoes and it made all the difference. Now if you are wanting more stability for trails I think that will have more to do with ankle "strength" than support. Something I used to do was stand and balance on one foot for as long as possible. It will really improve your ankles. |
| 2009-06-19 12:52 AM in reply to: #2220886 |
Veteran 314 SoCal | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? x3 for asics gel cumulus. also mizuno waveriders. |
| 2009-06-19 8:05 AM in reply to: #2220886 |
Master 1704 Charlotte | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? Also a supinator. Best luck so far with Brooks Defyance. I am in Version 2.0 now. Also had good luck with Glycerine but it was a tiny bit narrow for my foot (the defyance has widths available). Only issue withe Defyance (at least version 1) was the life. Only got about 350 miles before my body told me to get new ones. Got 400m out of the Glycerine. Before realizing I needed a nuetral shoe, I got a bad case of ITBS from running in "support" shoes (asics 2130). Once I got into some neutrals, the pain went quickly away. That is why EVERYONE here tells people to get fitted at a running store, not a big box store or self diagnosing. |
| 2009-06-19 9:31 AM in reply to: #2220886 |
| Extreme Veteran 763 | Subject: RE: anyone else have the rare "oversupinated" foot? Mizuno Wave Creation and Wave Precision. Kevin |
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