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 2009-06-18 8:39 AM |
Pro  4824    Houston |  Subject: If you live where it is very hot...Do you do all your run training outside? I am in Houston where it is obviously crazy hot this time of year. With 5 kiddos I am not able to get up and run at 6am and have to wait until it is warmer. Because of this I generally run once a week outside and twice a week inside on a treadmill. Is this a bad idea? |
| 2009-06-18 8:44 AM in reply to: #2226204 |
Extreme Veteran 495 Denton | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... Not at all - though the heat training isn't necessarily a BAD idea, if you're careful to hydrate properly, wear cool clothing, run in places with a lot of shade, etc. But, while treadmills aren't really the BEST thing for your legs, a couple of runs a week isn't going to kill you. |
| 2009-06-18 8:47 AM in reply to: #2226204 |
Champion 7347 SRQ, FL | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... You have to be careful in the heat and humidity. Down here in FL the heat index is up in the 100s almost all summer. If possible I do my runs and rides in the eves (6-7PM) when it's a bit cooler. However I also believe in mixing in some mid day, hotter-n-hell long runs. If you can run in the noon day sun in FL in summer then you can run just about anywhere. I see it as a badge of honor. But you MUST be careful and know your limits. Listen to your body and HYDRATE! You can get heat exhaustion or heat stroke VERY easily. I have nothing against other people using treadmills but I'd rather go to the dentist than run on those things. |
| 2009-06-18 8:47 AM in reply to: #2226204 |
Extreme Veteran 337 Houston | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... Running in houston is not fun right now lol. I also live in Houston! Anyways, I have found that running on a treadmill, for me, tricks me. I feel faster then when I go outside and run the humidity kills me. I just started running after I am off work and suck up the heat, its rough and my times show it but I am hoping it will condition me and make me stronger!!! |
| 2009-06-18 8:47 AM in reply to: #2226204 |
Expert 927 Longview, TX | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... I would say that is smart. Unless you are training for an event where you will be exposed to the heat, then I wouldn't bother training in it. All sprint and olympics should have you racing before lunch, so you won't experience heat unless your training for the HIM level up. My 2 cents, anyway... |
| 2009-06-18 8:53 AM in reply to: #2226204 |
| Master 2009 Charlotte, NC | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... I would love to run outside but my husband travels and the only childcare I have for my kids is at the Y so lots of treadmills for me.  |
| 2009-06-18 8:56 AM in reply to: #2226204 |
Champion 5117 Brandon, MS | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... Just be sure to stay hydrated. If I have to run in the afternoon, I'll take a water bottle with me on a three mile run. During the cooler months I'll do an hour without any liquids. Even if I wake up early to get it out of the way, I have to do the same thing. It's been in the 80s with some lovely humidity the past few days at 5:30am. I also double the water I take out on the bike. The good news is that you get more and more used to it every year, but that doesn't change how vital it is to make sure you are staying hydrated. |
| 2009-06-18 9:03 AM in reply to: #2226204 |
Master 2327 North Alabama | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... I'm in AL and our index is pushing 100 already. It's tough. I run at 0500 to avoid some of the heat/sunburn, but sometimes you can't help it. A few days a week on a treadmill isn't going to hurt anything, but I'd still do my best to get outside some. A good run outside in the heat, will teach you a good bit about your limits. BUT, YOU MUST LISTEN TO YOUR BODY. As your doing, you should be fine though. |
| 2009-06-18 9:07 AM in reply to: #2226204 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back Gold member | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... Yep all outside. Try to get all my running in before sunrise. |
| 2009-06-18 9:08 AM in reply to: #2226204 |
Veteran 213 Colorado Springs | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... This being my first summer in Georgia I am still getting aclimated to the weather. There is a noticable performace difference with my lunchtime runs and the Saturday morning runs. I think a bigger shock to the body would be doing strictly earling morning/late evening runs or treadmill runs then trying to race and have the run in the heat of the day. |
| 2009-06-18 9:10 AM in reply to: #2226204 |
Champion 10471 Dallas, TX | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... I haven't been able to run since May 16th really... but once I get back to it, I see myself on the treadmill a lot. I trained for probably 60% of my marathon on a treadmill... due to the cold. I have no problem being on a treadmill to avoid the heat and humidity.  |
| 2009-06-18 9:12 AM in reply to: #2226204 |
Elite 3683 Whispering Pines, North Carolina | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... I think it's a good idea to heat train, especially if you're training for the longer events, such as Oly and HIM. The runs in those events will probably start right as it's getting hot. If you're training exclusively on a treadmill (and in AC), the run (during a tri) is going to be a little more challenging, IMO. I try to run once or twice a week during my lunch break, and lately it's been HOT and HUMID. I just have to make sure I'm properly hydrated, otherwise, it is a NO-GO. Good luck! |
| 2009-06-18 9:13 AM in reply to: #2226308 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... the bear - 2009-06-18 10:07 AM Yep all outside. Try to get all my running in before sunrise. Problem with that Bear is that tris don't usually start until after sunrise. I do the same, but I think it's bad to get used to a cooler temp. Race Day should be easier than the training days right? I did hear of a study done by the Navy and Marine Corps that found that acclimatization is not a matter of always performing in that temp, it's about knowing how your body reacts when it is in that temp. So you can train in cooler temps, but you need to test yourself on a regular basis in heat. |
| 2009-06-18 9:14 AM in reply to: #2226204 |
Elite 2998 Fishers, Indiana | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... I abhor treadmimlls more than I do the heat. I try to get most of my running done before sunrise, but if I couldn't, well, I'll take the heat. It just means hydration. I picked up endurance running when I was in Iraq, and even in the summer before sunrise it was horribly hot--that's when I started running with a hydration belt--I had one that could carry a 20oz bottle (now I use a 4 small bottle belt) and a friend of mine used the camel bak waist pack. My times were slower in the heat, but before/during/afer hydration is what kept it manageable. Then, when it cooled off--it was like heaven! |
| 2009-06-18 9:20 AM in reply to: #2226333 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back Gold member | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... GomesBolt - 2009-06-18 9:13 AM the bear - 2009-06-18 10:07 AM Yep all outside. Try to get all my running in before sunrise. Problem with that Bear is that tris don't usually start until after sunrise. I do the same, but I think it's bad to get used to a cooler temp. Race Day should be easier than the training days right? I did hear of a study done by the Navy and Marine Corps that found that acclimatization is not a matter of always performing in that temp, it's about knowing how your body reacts when it is in that temp. So you can train in cooler temps, but you need to test yourself on a regular basis in heat. Don't know about you, but my race day effort is considerably harder than during training. That said, in the past I have run two miles of the bike in the afternoon, once a week, and called it a "heat acclimization run." But that's 2 out of 35-50+ a week. Edited by the bear 2009-06-18 9:22 AM |
| 2009-06-18 9:20 AM in reply to: #2226333 |
Master 1790 Tyler, TX | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... You have to do what works best for you. I run in the mornings (78 to 82 around here) or in the evenings after sundown (85+), though would consider the treadmill if I had to workout during the day. I don't like the treadmill much personally, but runnings on one is better than not running! On Monday I did an 6 pm run at 100 degrees and direct sun just to see what it would be like -- surprisingly it wasn't that bad! Brian |
| 2009-06-18 9:38 AM in reply to: #2226204 |
Pro 4824 Houston | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... I am only doing sprints this year so I'll be done by 10am and not racing in the middle of the day. I alternate my long runs inside one week, outside the next week - a long run for me is 5 miles but takes me an hour. After my long outside runs I feel horrible and am shot for the day. I understand the attitude towards treadmills, I don't disagree but I can put the kids in childcare at the Y and be inside so I work with it. Evenings are busy here but I'll try to get out at least once a week at night and then my other outside run in the late morning. |
| 2009-06-18 9:40 AM in reply to: #2226433 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... here in the DC area we get the 90's + very high humidity pretty much all summer. It always seems rough the first few weeks but after that I just get used to it. |
| 2009-06-18 9:43 AM in reply to: #2226237 |
Champion 7347 SRQ, FL | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... jcbolton - 2009-06-18 9:47 AM All sprint and olympics should have you racing before lunch, so you won't experience heat unless your training for the HIM level up. Maybe in the north...in the summer here it can be 85 degrees before the sun even rises. |
| 2009-06-18 9:43 AM in reply to: #2226331 |
| Alpharetta, Georgia | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... tri_d00d - 2009-06-18 9:12 AM I think it's a good idea to heat train, especially if you're training for the longer events, such as Oly and HIM. The runs in those events will probably start right as it's getting hot. If you're training exclusively on a treadmill (and in AC), the run (during a tri) is going to be a little more challenging, IMO. Very much agree with this. I usually take a sweat towel with me (I race with it too) becuase sweat dripping down my face really irritates me. I would much rather run with a sweat towel and water bottle and mimick my race conditions in the swealtering heat, than run on a treadmill in an air conditioned gym inside. PS heat index was 105 here yesterday. Pretty early for that, but don't see it letting up anytime soon  Edited by lisac957 2009-06-18 9:44 AM |
| 2009-06-18 9:43 AM in reply to: #2226231 |
Regular 85 Lakeland, FL | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... TriRSquared - 2009-06-18 9:47 AM You have to be careful in the heat and humidity. Down here in FL the heat index is up in the 100s almost all summer. If possible I do my runs and rides in the eves (6-7PM) when it's a bit cooler. However I also believe in mixing in some mid day, hotter-n-hell long runs. If you can run in the noon day sun in FL in summer then you can run just about anywhere. I see it as a badge of honor. But you MUST be careful and know your limits. Listen to your body and HYDRATE! You can get heat exhaustion or heat stroke VERY easily. I have nothing against other people using treadmills but I'd rather go to the dentist than run on those things. X2, except 6 or 7 PM isn't that much cooler right now. 6 or 7 AM = much better. But I agree with the heat. I try to run mid-day just to make the workout that much harder all the while staying hydrated as much as possible. |
| 2009-06-18 9:48 AM in reply to: #2226204 |
Extreme Veteran 542 Pauls Valley, OK | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... I live in Oklahoma where we can hit the century mark for days on end. I do all of my running outdoors and most of it is in the heat of the day right after work. Occassionally, if I have a busy evening I am forced until after sunset, but that is rare. However, I am acclimated to the heat. I work outside alot, and only run my air conditioner if I have a passenger. I have no limit on the heat I will run it as I've run 11 miles in 107 degrees. (yes, that felt hot even for me, and I don't recommend it). But, when I did Buffalo Springs Lake 70.3 it was 96 degrees and I thought it felt rather cool. I had a friend that avoided training in the heat and did all of his running before sunrise. He was a far better runner than I was. However, if we raced in anything over 85 degrees, I was able to beat him. I like to think that on hot race days I have an advantage over the other athletes who haven't put time into training in the heat. It might not, but the even false confidence helps too. |
| 2009-06-18 9:49 AM in reply to: #2226204 |
Master 2355 Houston, TX | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... Me and the heat are buddies. |
| 2009-06-18 10:01 AM in reply to: #2226452 |
| Miami,FL | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... TriRSquared - 2009-06-18 10:43 AM jcbolton - 2009-06-18 9:47 AM All sprint and olympics should have you racing before lunch, so you won't experience heat unless your training for the HIM level up. Maybe in the north...in the summer here it can be 85 degrees before the sun even rises. X2! My last 5k was around 8AM and during warm ups i was sweating bullets, the temp was 84 and humid as hell. |
| 2009-06-18 10:06 AM in reply to: #2226204 |
Master 2355 Houston, TX | Subject: RE: If you live where it is very hot... Don't think about it.. it's not that bad. You go slower and have to drink a lot, but do those two things and it's not horrible. Did a 13 mile run on Sunday by the bay (so humid) and it was 94 degrees out. It wasn't too bad. |
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