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2009-07-01 3:34 PM

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Subject: Pool Etiquette
Hi All

Had a situation arise today at the pool and was wondering what is the proper etiquette for this scenario:

1. 3 lane / 25 yard pool at the gym. All 3 lanes have someone in them.
  • Lane 1 (larger lane) - Lady doing slow laps, look like a steady, decent swimmer.
  • Lane 2 (smaller lane) - Lady doing some sort of water rehab, just walking etc.
  • Lane 3 (larger lane) - me doing speed work 100 yards at a time.
2. Guy comes to the pool (turns out he's not a very good swimmer) and asks me while I'm swimming to share my lane. So I stop and tell him I'm working on speed skills and if he wouldn't mind using the other large lane, since he just wants to do slow laps.

3. ??? He chooses the middle lane, which is smaller, instead of swimming in the first lane which is larger and it turns out, his form is not the best.

4. We meet up in the locker room (apparently the guy only did like 20 minutes of swimming anyways, wtf???) and he starts yelling at me that I was rude and he's going to do the same to me next time, yada yada yada...

I sincerely asked him, that if he wanted to swim slow and the lady in the first lane was swimming slow, what the big deal was? He didn't answer, but just kept yelling at me that I was rude etc.

Was I wrong in asking him to use the other lane?

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Dennis


2009-07-01 3:40 PM
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Ikanuba - 2009-07-01 4:34 PM

Was I wrong in asking him to use the other lane?

Thank You
Dennis

in my opinion, yes.
2009-07-01 3:42 PM
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Well since you asked, I don't think rude is the correct word. The guy was probably just going to share your lane because the other two had women in them. So probably more comfortable for him to share with another dood. I think he was rude to yell at you, that is pretty surprising. If I were in the guys shoes I would not have been offended. However, if I were in your shoes I also would have shared the lane. Just me, not saying one is right or wrong. I find no fault with what you did.
2009-07-01 3:44 PM
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Not sure why you couldn't have offered to split the lane with him if your lane was the same size as the one you suggested he use.
2009-07-01 3:44 PM
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You were in the wrong. You had a large lane. So what if he wanted half of it? Unless he were doing something that would take up your side of the lane... it really didn't matter if you shared it or not.

9.5 times out of 10, I'm the fastest swimmer in the pool. No matter what pool I go to. Not bragging... just saying... and I go to pools were mostly casual fitness swimmers go. Thus, I'm faster than most.

BUT, even though I'm obviously doing a serious workout in my lane (3,000-5,000 meters), and even though I'm going to be the better/faster swimmer than someone else who gets in my lane... I will stop my workout and motion to people on the side of the pool waiting, so they can share my lane with me.

PS- I will say that he was rude by yelling and he really needed to just let it go. And I wouldn't say that you were rude.

Edited by KSH 2009-07-01 3:46 PM
2009-07-01 3:44 PM
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I'd consider it kind of rude, yes.
And who cares if he only did 20 minutes of swimming or if he's not a very good swimmer or doesn't have the best form? Why does that matter? If that was the tone you took with him intended or not, I'd be upset, too.



2009-07-01 3:48 PM
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My humble opinion, certainly it would have been better for him to use the first lane.  But you had a larger lane all to yourself, I don't think sharing with one person would have been the end of the world.

He shouldn't have gone off on you in the locker room.
2009-07-01 3:49 PM
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could you swim side by side in the larger lane?  or would it be circling
2009-07-01 3:49 PM
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Ikanuba - 2009-07-01 4:34 PM

(apparently the guy only did like 20 minutes of swimming anyways, wtf???)


Maybe he's tapering.

I would not have turned him away and would have been surprised and bit ruffled if someone refused me a similar request. If I was the only guy and a guy came in the pool area I would be surprised if he didn't ask to share with me instead of the ladies.
2009-07-01 3:50 PM
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Thanks for the info....

I haven't done much swimming at this pool (only 3 lanes)  so I've never come across a situation like this. I tried to put myself in his shoes and I wouldn't have gotten offended either, to be honest I probably wouldn't have tried to use the lane i was in in the first place since I was only going to be swimming slow and for 20 minutes.

Live and learn!

Thanks Dudes...

2009-07-01 3:50 PM
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ChrisM - 2009-07-01 3:49 PM

could you swim side by side in the larger lane?  or would it be circling


Good question. Circling with someone who is considerably slower than you is completely miserable.

But honestly, if you can circle, you can split the lane. I mean, either way you have to have room for two people to pass each other going opposite directions... right?


2009-07-01 3:52 PM
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Whether its rude or not I have no clue.  all I know is when someone asks to share with me, I always say yes, and maybe even tell them good morning.


also, whats the length of time he swam have to do with anything.
2009-07-01 3:52 PM
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KSH - 2009-07-01 1:50 PM
ChrisM - 2009-07-01 3:49 PM could you swim side by side in the larger lane?  or would it be circling
Good question. Circling with someone who is considerably slower than you is completely miserable. But honestly, if you can circle, you can split the lane. I mean, either way you have to have room for two people to pass each other going opposite directions... right?


Yes, you are right.   But i guess the lane could be one that is not quite big enough to go side by side, but you could circle since you could get by.

As for the 20 minutes swim, don't even see why that's relevant.  We are all on different paths in the pool
 
2009-07-01 3:53 PM
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Ikanuba - 2009-07-01 3:50 PM 
to be honest I probably wouldn't have tried to use the lane i was in in the first place since I was only going to be swimming slow and for 20 minutes.




Just wondering how this information affects your workout in any way? I don't get it...
I shared a lane last night with a 300lb dude who sat at the end and flutter kicked. We both got our (very different) workouts in and didn't impact each other in any way...
2009-07-01 3:55 PM
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As long as the two of you had your suits still on in the lockerroom...

Whatever you did or didn't do, not sure it ever warrants a shouting match in the lockerroom. Way to keep your head on you. That could have escalated quickly...

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2009-07-01 3:56 PM
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I guess what kind of confused me was that lane 1 was as large as mine and had someone doing a slower pace, such as he wanted to do. Not sure why it would matter if it was a woman or a man, but i guess that was his call.

I wasn't trying to put him down for swimming slower or poorly, just that the way he went off on my in the locker room, you would have thought he was training for the olympics. Not sure why he made such a big deal about something he only did for like 20 minutes. And even though I apologized, the dude wouldn't let it go.



2009-07-01 3:59 PM
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Still, could you swim side by side?  If so, why does it matter how fast/slow he goes?   That's what I am wondering about.  If you had to circle, I could understand your position.   

And the whole after swim incident in the locker room is just weird. 
2009-07-01 3:59 PM
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Well, looks like the consensus is to "Share the lane" or go back to swimming in the ocean.

I vote for the ocean! Cool But if I'm posed with a similar situation in the future, I will share the lane, I may not like it but whatever.

Thanks for the all the input.
2009-07-01 4:04 PM
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The lanes are just barely large enough to swim side by side, so we could have done it, but it's not compfortable.

Not sure about the whole locker room thing. I apologized and tried to reason but he just wanted to make sure I knew that if I ever wanted to swim in his lane, I was out of luck!



2009-07-01 4:09 PM
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I *try* (not always so good at it!) to not let small stuff get to me in life....b/c in the big picture it's not that big of a deal whether he shares a lane w/ you or not.  I split lanes all the time with people that are all over the place swimming, and if it makes the water super choppy, well, who cares, more like an OWS then, I circle if someone prefers to circle even if they're much slower (even though i prefer splitting a lane in half) and just pass quickly when I need to, etc.  I always remember everybody there has just as much of a right to the pool as I do....whether it's a bunch of kids playing, or the woman doing her water walking exercises, doesn't matter.  

And not just with the pool, I try to have that mojo in life.  I'll never forget racking my bike at a small local race and some dude freaking out that his bike was "there" and mine was too close to his.   So I said something like, 'well i've been to a few bigger races and there's a sticker w/ your number for where you rack your bike, and it's a lot tighter than this, but yeah, no problem, i can move my bike over a bit.'  Meanwhile i'm kinda thinking, wow, that's how you live...getting upset about a few inches of bike space in a small local tri with 200 people.  Or i think the same thing when I see people getting in a huff about pool stuff.  Kinda like he did with you in the lockerroom.  

So yeah, I'd have let him share...and if I was on the recieving end of being asked to use a different lane, not that big of a deal either.  

2009-07-01 4:11 PM
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Ikanuba - 2009-07-01 3:56 PM

I guess what kind of confused me was that lane 1 was as large as mine and had someone doing a slower pace, such as he wanted to do. Not sure why it would matter if it was a woman or a man, but i guess that was his call.

I wasn't trying to put him down for swimming slower or poorly, just that the way he went off on my in the locker room, you would have thought he was training for the olympics. Not sure why he made such a big deal about something he only did for like 20 minutes. And even though I apologized, the dude wouldn't let it go.



OK... look man... I am not sure HOW slowly this guy was swimming... but... you aren't exactly Michael Phelps. I mean... over 2:00 minutes per 100 in your races (00:09:17 | 437.45001 yards | 02m 07s / 100yards ) ... you aren't breaking any speed records there.

Which is fine. We all have our own speed. I appauld anyone who is out there doing it!

It just seems a little nuts that you keep mentioning how SLOW he was.

No matter what someone is doing in a pool... even if you don't regard it as a workout, it's their workout.



Edited by KSH 2009-07-01 4:12 PM


2009-07-01 4:12 PM
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When I swim for 45-75' I usually move lanes or change lane mates 4-6x.

I've had others ask me to move lanes so they could swim with their friend or their nearly blind parent. I'll move.

The issue I have is some slower folks swim very wide and hit me a lot. My big beef is why they don't swim with someone like them instead of someone doing a swim workout.

I sometimes swim with my husband and he takes longer to get into the pool than I do. If someone asks to share while I'm waiting for him I say no my husband is coming out..is it rude yah probably but come on I'm swimming with him. Or if I meet a friend I'll ask someone if they'll move so we can swim together.

I wish the lifeguards would do a better job of matching folks up instead of having us fend for ourselves or teach folks how to share lanes or circle swim. There is a whole group of older folks that don't like sharing in the morning when I swim. They are hard to share with but others are great.

There are certain types I don't like sharing with when I'm doing hard workout and I do all I can not to share with them..if they ask I'll say yes though..if another lane opens up I'll point it out or move.


Edited by KathyG 2009-07-01 4:13 PM
2009-07-01 4:13 PM
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huh  I never really ask I just wait till the person sees me and then I jump in... Nobody owns a lane and we are all there for the same thing. If it was me I would have just jumped in and started swimming in your lane...

Maybe he chose your lane because he thought you were a good swimmer and could learn a thing or two...I think I tend to jump in a lane with a guy over a girl but I really do not think about it. If I have to open lanes, ones a guy and ones a girl I go to the guy one... strange I wonder how many other people do this...

I do not know that I would have waited till the locker room I might have said something to you right off the bat when you told me no...

 

2009-07-01 4:14 PM
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I go to the girl lane.   Definitely go to the girl lane

2009-07-01 4:17 PM
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ChrisM - 2009-07-01 4:14 PM

I go to the girl lane.   Definitely go to the girl lane



Oh no...you're THAT guy!  The one who's always trying to stop me in the middle of my swim to ask me silly questions...what are you training for?....what's your tattoo all about?...come here often?....Wink

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