Safe Solo OWS?
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I plan on doing a few OWS this week. Is there a rule of thumb for solo OWS? Should it never be done? I am swimming 1000 yds in the pool now but normally will not do more than 100-150yds without stopping for a breather. I am a very good floater and have practiced rolling over to float when I'm gassed. How do you start off OWS while keeping it safe? I just heard about yet another Wisconsonite drowning in a tri yesterday so I'm very concerned about being safe. Thanks... |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Good question. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() A lot of those drownings in Tri's are actually heart attacks...not being gassed or inability in the water. If you are concerned about being gassed you can always slow down. There is always a risk of danger in the ocean. I once hit my head on a reef (thank god it was "soft") but I know I passed out...I just remember the wave taking me down, I felt a thump...and then I was on the surface. I realize I got lucky. As far as OWS alone, if you have concerns try to get someone to at least watch you. Or just plan the swim with others. 99.9% of the time you will be ok...your just trying to prepare for the .01%. Other tings you can do are purchase a flotation device similar to what sailors wear topside in case of emergency you can just inflate. And wear a bright swimcap if you have it. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() rick beat me to it |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I've done it, in both a lake and the ocean. In fact I did it last weekend in a lake, and will do it next weekend in the ocean. I can't say I feel great about doing it -- I can certainly see the danger. But I've decided that the risk is acceptable. And I think that's the key -- you have to think carefully and seriously about the risk involve, and decide whether it is acceptable for you, in your current circumstances. I did have someone watching me from shore, but honestly all that means is that they'll know where to find the body... I do think that the lake is slightly safer than the ocean (at least the one where I've swum), just because waves and current add elements to deal with in the ocean. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() thoughts on being "safer" while swimming in open water: go to a lake where they rent boats and bring a friend/significant other/parent to leisurely enjoy a nice paddle while you swim. Guilt is a useful strategy- tell them you are going alone, but if they came you would feel safer- my parents have paddled along after me numerous times |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I half expected to get jumped all over for suggesting to swim solo. I'm happy to see my thinking at least aligned with a few of you. I think for the first time or two I'll just make sure I make many short out and backs. |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() So, I usually swim with other triathletes in a small lake outside the city. We do a 800 meter loop (I think that's about 950 yards) Recently it has been getting harder to find someone who wants to go out and swim on my schedule. Recently a fellow swimmer pointed out that he goes alone all the time because he figures we are usually about ten minutes' swim from shore if there were anyone there watching and those of us swimming, are not watching each other, our faces are in the water and we're all going at our own pace, so technically we might as well be alone. So, that said, I am going for a solo ows in the morning. If I don't log my training by noon, well that probably means I slept in and will go after my physio appointment, so no one get too worried. It is hard do drown in a wetsuit anyway. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I do it. I have to swim solo as I just don't have any Tri buddies to go with. I swim along a break wall on the lake which is beside a heavily used bike path that also has life guards in a few places... about as safe as you can get swimming alone. Plus you can touch the bottom most of the time. |
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![]() I solo OWS (well, it's with a group, but once in the water... ) However, I'm just gonna take the position that if you have to stop every 100-150 yards to get a breather, you should NOT be swimming OW solo. I'd say you should be capable of swimming at least 400 -500 yards non stop before you venture into open water, especially solo |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I always take the girlfriend and wear a brightly colored swim cap. The swim cap is moreso to make sure the boaters in the lake I swim can see me, but also so the g/f can see my head bobbing and gliding across the water. Again, the best she can do if I get in trouble is try to swim out to me...but more than likely having her there would just eliminate the need for the rescue divers to spend hours looking for my body...grim but probably true. Even if she can get to me I am doubting her ability to swim well with my unconscious 160 lb body. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I swim solo 100% of the time on Oahu. Just swim right outside the surf breaks... the surfers are always looking out for the next set... and they see me... right? =) |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Experior - 2009-08-09 10:45 PM I've done it, in both a lake and the ocean. In fact I did it last weekend in a lake, and will do it next weekend in the ocean. I can't say I feel great about doing it -- I can certainly see the danger. But I've decided that the risk is acceptable. And I think that's the key -- you have to think carefully and seriously about the risk involve, and decide whether it is acceptable for you, in your current circumstances. I did have someone watching me from shore, but honestly all that means is that they'll know where to find the body... I do think that the lake is slightly safer than the ocean (at least the one where I've swum), just because waves and current add elements to deal with in the ocean. I am not sure - there are boaters and anglers on the lake here, who may not notice you until they've run you over. A safety boater can help by increasing visibility and blocking you. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() ChrisM - 2009-08-10 2:00 AM I solo OWS (well, it's with a group, but once in the water... ) However, I'm just gonna take the position that if you have to stop every 100-150 yards to get a breather, you should NOT be swimming OW solo. I'd say you should be capable of swimming at least 400 -500 yards non stop before you venture into open water, especially solo I'm gonna side with Chris on this one. Having to stop every 100-150 yards makes me think you should have someone with you. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() You really should be a stronger swimmer before trying an OWS solo, especially if there are no lifeguards nearby. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I regularly swim solo at a public, guarded beach. I usually leave my gear bag at the one of the lifeguard stands and mention my plans to the lifeguard. I swim parallel to the beach, only going out far enough to avoid the waders and floaters. If I get tired, it's only a short paddle to shallow water. Mark
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() axteraa - 2009-08-10 8:08 AM ChrisM - 2009-08-10 2:00 AM I solo OWS (well, it's with a group, but once in the water... ) However, I'm just gonna take the position that if you have to stop every 100-150 yards to get a breather, you should NOT be swimming OW solo. I'd say you should be capable of swimming at least 400 -500 yards non stop before you venture into open water, especially solo I'm gonna side with Chris on this one. Having to stop every 100-150 yards makes me think you should have someone with you. x2 |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm a weak swimmer too (total newbie), but what I do to reduce the risk since I don't have a pool membership is swim along the edge of the lake - it's at most 10 yards to shallow water the entire time and easy to get to if I get gassed. I also drag the boyfriend along whenever possible. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Well, I do it solo because I have to, and really, what exactly are people going to do if something happens out there? Say you're 300m out, someone passes out, if you notice them in time, with 1 partner they will have to be able to carry you out of water for 300 meters, find out what's wrong, then get back to the vehicle. By the time first responders show you're looking at 30 minutes. I do it at some parts in the ocean, but I hate doing it. When I was younger (13) I was swept out to sea while surfing. It was during a storm and I caught the current of a river (I was surfing at a rivers mouth) and there was no way to even fight it. Luckily I wasn't alone and friends called to help. I was about 3 miles out, for 3 hours, when the Coast Guard picked me up. Of course those were bad conditions to even go out but I always think of that when I get near a rip current. |
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![]() ![]() | ![]() If I can avoid it I don't do it. When I do solo OWS I go along the shore so I can stand up at anytime if I need to. Edited by wildcat1 2009-08-10 11:22 AM |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I've done OWS with other BTers and with members of my tri club and I don't really know that anyone would have noticed if I was having trouble or went under. Understand your risk and be willing to accept that risk. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() gearboy - 2009-08-10 7:56 AM Experior - 2009-08-09 10:45 PM I've done it, in both a lake and the ocean. In fact I did it last weekend in a lake, and will do it next weekend in the ocean. I can't say I feel great about doing it -- I can certainly see the danger. But I've decided that the risk is acceptable. And I think that's the key -- you have to think carefully and seriously about the risk involve, and decide whether it is acceptable for you, in your current circumstances. I did have someone watching me from shore, but honestly all that means is that they'll know where to find the body... I do think that the lake is slightly safer than the ocean (at least the one where I've swum), just because waves and current add elements to deal with in the ocean. I am not sure - there are boaters and anglers on the lake here, who may not notice you until they've run you over. A safety boater can help by increasing visibility and blocking you. Oh, I agree 100%. In fact, I wouldn't swim where the boats go zipping around. Half the boaters around here are drunk, and the other half are getting there. Where I swim (in a lake), boats are not allowed. And I agree with those who say you should be able to swim longer than a few hundred meters before OWS, unless you're in shallow water the whole time (i.e., you can stand up whenever necessary). |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I don't swim alone but something you could try it using your race number belt and tie a pool noodle to it with an old shoes string. Got the idea from a fellow local BTer, keyone, and it is nice as a safety if you were to get a cramp or suddenly feel you need a break, just hold on to the noodle for a minute to catch your breathe. It also helps to make you more visible to boaters. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() PinkPrincess - 2009-08-10 10:57 AM I'm a weak swimmer too (total newbie), but what I do to reduce the risk since I don't have a pool membership is swim along the edge of the lake - it's at most 10 yards to shallow water the entire time and easy to get to if I get gassed. I also drag the boyfriend along whenever possible. Stop being modest - how weak can you be if you are dragging your boyfriend along while you swim?!? Oh, wait, you mean....never mind.... |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I swim solo in OW more often than with a group, though I'm a stronger swimmer and confident in my abilities. You should definitely work a lot in the pool, though I think you can swim a bit of OW solo even at your level, if you stay close to the shoreline. Panic is less likely to set in if you can see the shore and know that you're just a short distance away. It can get pretty eery out in the middle of a lake, all alone, no visibility beyond your hand, can't touch the bottom, can't hold onto a lane line etc. That's when panic sets in. I sometimes will start to feel panic coming on when swimming alone, but I know how to handle it so that it doesn't arrive. Brian |
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