Q-Roo or Felt?

not sure of your size, but there is a real nice quitana roo in classified section at a real nice price.  Sure wish I had the money right now.

personally i like the Q-Roo's, but after reading about a customer service experience here on the board I'm kinda freaked about them..
I hope to be making a similar purchase next year myself..

I dont think Alum is necessarly a step down... Good Alum is better than low end Carbon...

I've heard about that as well but the LBS assures me those days are over and they take responsibility for the bikes they sell.

I have been riding a QR Lucero for about a year now and I love it. My wife also has a Lucero and my daughter has a Tequilo. We have had no problems with the bikes. I do not know anything about Felts but I am sure they are a good quality bike too.

I'd go with the Felt.  They use the same mold for the B16 up to the DA, so even the B16 as a lower-end bike, gives you the same aero benefits as the top end DA.  You don't get that with many other companies.

I was recently in the same boat as you. Looking for my first tri bike after doing a few races with my road bike. I was at the same price point and I ended up getting the B16. I can tell you I am very happy with my decision. I have only had the bike for two weeks or so but everything about it has been great.

You do with QR.  The Seduza, Caliente and Lucero are all the same mold too.  The difference is groupsets and quality of carbon (hardly noticeable to most amateur athletes)

Both bikes are solid.  Talk to the dealer, understand the geometries and figure out which one is best for your frame.

You can go wrong with either bike.

I see that the QR Seduza comes with a compact crank.  That has its advantages.

I just went through the same thing as you!  I tested both the QR Seduza and the B16.  You really can't go wrong with either bike or company.   The funny thing was I really did not feel much of a difference at all in the QR or the Felt, they both fit great!  So my deciding factor was that the LBS with the QR was closer to my house and were really knowlegeable and patiently answered all my newbie questions. Whereas the LBS with the B16 had average customer service at best.  I figured since all else seemed equal go with the better LBS.

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One thing that I have not read on here is fit.  Bike fit is probably one of the MOST important items to look at.  Which bike fits you the best.  You need to find out if your LBS has a certified bike fitter (F.I.S.T).  A sexy bike may not fit you.  I am lucky and the bike that I wanted fit me.  If the QR does not fit you then no matter what it is made of, what components it has you will not do well on the bike. 

I would say find which one (QR or Felt) fits you best and go from there.

I'd go with with the felt... i have the S22.. love it.. QR and Cervelo are great bikes

but in all honesty

Your bike will choose you... could end up on a trek equinox, just because it feels better

Edited by momo 2009-08-24 1:11 PM

very good point, hopefully I'll have the chance to try the fit of both bikes...I'm fairly certain that both will work equally well  based on the geometry, reviews and my dimensions

You can find a few comments on the QR Seduza on this website:

http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/reviews/2500wars.shtml

yeah, my lbs has that special too...not sure that, given my current riding level, the extra money for upgraded components would make any real world difference though...

some great responses so far and lots of food for thought

great article but wrong year seduza, I'm looking at the '09. it does however give some really strong urging towards the Felt lineup...thanks

I agree with most here, the fit is most important. That being said, Felt is the way to go, imo. I love mine, S32. BT had some great reviews on the S32, I am sure its gonna have reviews on the bikes your looking at.

I forgot to mention that my first real tri back (several years ago) was a Seduza.  It was an ok bike.  I made a few changes to it but I enjoyed it until I bought my P3.  Really, besides fit I think that they are about the same quality.... still like the felt better...

I have had 3 Felt's (2 tri one road) and my wife had 1 (road). I don't exactly know why I like Felt so much but I fell in love with the look of the bikes right off. They're Irvine Headquarters happens to be very near when I work. I have gone in and gotten to know some of their designers. They are a great group of guys (and gals). I met Jim Felt and his wife at Wildflower this year. Again, very friendly and personable. They all take great pride in the product. I havent had any service issues with any of the bikes.

I had a Alum frame S25 with carbon fork. Early last year I was hit by another cyclist head on (15 yr old kid screwing around in the bike lane slid out in front of me without even seeing me). The impact tacoed my front wheel as I flipped over tea kettle. I took my bike in hoping to need a new frame cuz I really wanted a DA. But the frame and fork were perfectly FINE. A few nicks but other wise perfect. I ended up buying the DA anyway. It flies. Got it up to 48 mph on a decent during one race and that scared me so I havent done that since.


I have no experience with QRoo. Other than I have a buddy who rides one and I always have to slow and ask if the pace is ok for him. But that is more him and not the bike. They are stunning bikes as well.

I don't really think you can go wrong either way.

The article linked on the first page is excellent - wish I had read that.

I picked the Qroo (Kilo) last summer because it had the best component set for the price, and that's the type of decision maker I am.  I never even tried another bike, which I regret.  I was convinced they'd all be "fine" and didn't want to be stuck with a bike that I felt wasn't worth the money.  Although the Felt's were certainly good quality for the price.

If I did it again, I would probably do more research on the fit end.  One thing I hate about the QR, which I can see clearly in that article, is the design of the top tube.  It makes using a bento box sort of bag difficult.  Just a small problem though.  The bike is just that - "fine".  It looks cool, though

Edited by BikerGrrrl 2009-08-24 3:48 PM

I used to have a QR Lucero before I bought my Look. The QR is still the second best bike I have ever ridden (which does incl. Cervelo, Felt and a few more). Probably what I like the most of the QR is the stability and "snappyness", combined with good comfort. You really can't go wrong with the Seduza (same frame as the Lucero) as long as the geometry fits you.

Now to my normal statement... before you go out and spend $2000+, do yourself a favor and get a bike fit... and THEN by the bike that fits YOU the best. No reason not to get 100% of your efforts into forward motion.

I agree- can't go wrong with either. But if I had my way, I'd get the Kestrel Talon

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/kestrel/talon_tri_sale.htm 

and then add these 4.0 clincher aerowheels

http://www.bikesoul.com/s4.html 

and any aero helmet

for a hot-looking (I saw this setup last week by someone and it looked HOT!) and faster, more aero setup than any of the bikes you've mentioned.