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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() ok. My main goal in the next 2 month is weight lose and to be on my feet for a long time. I have a 24 hour race coming up. Best thing I know I can do is drop as much weight as possible. I found several interesting thing in trying to maxium my weight lose like bikeing 15 miles in 1 hour burns more calories than running 5 miles for me in the same hour. Interesting huh. Once I can get my flat tire fixed I need to get on the bike more I swear. Well question at hand is I can run at 12 min/mile pace for 4 miles or I can walk 5 miles at a 15:00 pace and burn the same amount of calories. Which one would I be better off doing? running would bring me high Z2 - low z3. walking would being me high z1 - low z2. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Assuming you are correct and both burn the same amount of calories, it doesn't matter which one you do. Just make sure the calories you burn is more than the calories taken in and you will lose weight. |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() chirunner134 - 2007-11-01 2:57 PM Once I can get my flat tire fixed I need to get on the bike more I swear. Seriously? Chi, that's a really bad excuse not to be riding. You know I don't like to be hard on you, but... Edited by LaurenSU02 2007-11-01 2:08 PM |
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Runner | ![]() You should run. It will do more for your overall fitness right now, and have the added benefit of getting your run time down. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() LaurenSU02 - 2007-11-01 2:07 PM chirunner134 - 2007-11-01 2:57 PM Once I can get my flat tire fixed I need to get on the bike more I swear. Seriously? Chi, that's a really bad excuse not to be riding. You know I don't like to be hard on you, but... I know. I spend 30 minutes getting half of the trainer tire off. I really suck at getting my tire off. yeah I know I need to get the bike fixed and going. After my latest research not only will biking give me the the most cals burn but you do it at a lower HR idealy making it a better fat burner. Atleast I admit it. I do not hide from my failings. I just hope a trainer tire is harder than a road tire. Edited by chirunner134 2007-11-01 2:16 PM |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() chirunner134 - 2007-11-01 3:13 PM LaurenSU02 - 2007-11-01 2:07 PM I know. I spend 30 minutes getting half of the trainer tire off. I really suck at getting my tire off. yeah I know I need to get the bike fixed and going. After my latest research not only will biking give me the the most cals burn but you do it at a lower HR idealy making it a better fat burner. chirunner134 - 2007-11-01 2:57 PM Once I can get my flat tire fixed I need to get on the bike more I swear. Seriously? Chi, that's a really bad excuse not to be riding. You know I don't like to be hard on you, but... Getting the tire off is the easy part. It should not take that long. Do you have tire levers/irons? Visit sheldonbrown's site...he can walk you thru a tire change. |
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Giver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() LaurenSU02 - 2007-11-01 3:07 PM chirunner134 - 2007-11-01 2:57 PM Once I can get my flat tire fixed I need to get on the bike more I swear. Seriously? Chi, that's a really bad excuse not to be riding. You know I don't like to be hard on you, but... heh...you said "hard on"... |
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Resident Curmudgeon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Where are you getting your calculations/assumptions from? I have always heard that you burn the same amount of calories per mile whther you're running or walking. Thus walking 5 miles would burn more calories than running 4 miles... |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() LaurenSU02 - 2007-11-01 2:15 PM chirunner134 - 2007-11-01 3:13 PM LaurenSU02 - 2007-11-01 2:07 PM I know. I spend 30 minutes getting half of the trainer tire off. I really suck at getting my tire off. yeah I know I need to get the bike fixed and going. After my latest research not only will biking give me the the most cals burn but you do it at a lower HR idealy making it a better fat burner. chirunner134 - 2007-11-01 2:57 PM Once I can get my flat tire fixed I need to get on the bike more I swear. Seriously? Chi, that's a really bad excuse not to be riding. You know I don't like to be hard on you, but... Getting the tire off is the easy part. It should not take that long. Do you have tire levers/irons? Visit sheldonbrown's site...he can walk you thru a tire change. I have 1 lever. Do I need more than 1? |
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Giver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() the bear - 2007-11-01 3:17 PM Where are you getting your calculations/assumptions from? I have always heard that you burn the same amount of calories per mile whther you're running or walking. Thus walking 5 miles would burn more calories than running 4 miles... You burn a bit more calories by running, because the biomechanics are different. When you walk, you weight is always supported, but when you run, there are intervals where you're completely off the ground. The act of putting all of your weight in the air produces a greater energy demand. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() the bear - 2007-11-01 2:17 PM Where are you getting your calculations/assumptions from? I have always heard that you burn the same amount of calories per mile whther you're running or walking. Thus walking 5 miles would burn more calories than running 4 miles... This is based off the site http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/cbc If I am burning more cals walking 5 miles than running more 4 miles would I be better walking walking the 5 miles? I should also be burning alot more body weight and best of all not be so hungry. |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() You should run. Running will take your body longer to recover thus burning more calories in the long run…..Heh, get it long run….. Walking may burn the same calories during the activity but afterwards your body easily adapts and recovers. So over a 24 hour period running is the way to go UNLESS it causes you pain or injury. Ryan. |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() If time is not an issue then run 4 and walk 2. Here is my logic: Run = 12 minute mile 4 miles = 48 minutes Walk = 15 minute mile 5 miles = 1 hour and 15 minutes If you run 4 miles and walk 2 it's taking a total of 1 hour and 18 minutes...this way you're getting the best of running and walking, and 6 miles total instead of 4 or 5. That might be a good thing to do, but maybe not, I definately don't claim to know it all... |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() chirunner134 - 2007-11-01 2:57 PM Which one would I be better off doing? running would bring me high Z2 - low z3. walking would being me high z1 - low z2. Walking really puts you in high Z1 / low Z2??? I can't get near high Z1/Z2 walking. 2-3 levers will get a tire off! If they don't get out the knife, LOL! |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() chirunner134 - 2007-11-01 3:17 PM I have 1 lever. Do I need more than 1? Probably, if you can't get the tire off with just one. Some tires seem to come off more easily than others. I can get my current tires off with just one lever (could probably do it with none if I really had to), but I've had tires in the past (on different wheels) that I really needed two levers for. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() yep walking can get me there. I will probably walk faster than 15 min/ mile pace but to show the numbers I had to base it off 15 min/ mile pace. Just like I probably run slightly less than a 12 min/mile pace. 14:45 vs 12:15 I do not think would be too far off the 15 vs 12 numbers. running 4 and walking 2 would be better ulimately. Burn the most. plus if I am allow to break up the run with the walking keeping my HR in Zone 2 for most of it and everyone would be happy. run 2 miles then walk 1, or run 1 and walk 1/2 mile. ok I will need to get more levers and a bigger boat. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I don't post much, but your facts and conclusions are just so wacko (to use the technical term) I just have to say something. There is no way that biking 1hr at 15 mph burns more cals than running 1hr at 5 mph. As you say in a later post your heart rate is lower when biking and hr directly correlates to the amount of oxygen your using, so lower hr less O2, less calories burned. Even if you want to think of it as a fat vs. CHO thing. If your hr was the same for biking and running, and running uses more total muscle mass, therefore when biking the muscles that are being used are using more O2 per cell and therefore are operating at a higher intensity/zone and burning a higher % of Carbs. To answer your original question of walk vs. run, I'd run, and at a slow enough pace to stay in Z2. Don't break up your run with walks to keep your hr down just run slow so your hr stays where you want it. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() StarGazer - 2007-11-01 3:24 PM I don't post much, but your facts and conclusions are just so wacko (to use the technical term) I just have to say something. There is no way that biking 1hr at 15 mph burns more cals than running 1hr at 5 mph. As you say in a later post your heart rate is lower when biking and hr directly correlates to the amount of oxygen your using, so lower hr less O2, less calories burned. Well according the the site coolrunning site and http://www.healthstatus.com/cgi-bin/calc/calculator.cgi It says if you run 12 min/mile pace you burn less calories than a 15 mph bike ride. Now maybe the 15 mph bike ride has too many factors to be accurate at all but that is what the sites say. IT could jsut be a flaw in the site and how they calculate calories burnt. |
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Runner | ![]() It's an online calculator, so it's making some assumptions. Here's my thoughts on what you should do: Go out and train for your race. If weight loss is really key for you right now, then you need to find a nutritionist who can help you with your diet. You're worried about detail stuff, and missing the forest for the trees. I think that by training to run a marathon, swim 2.4 miles, and bike 112 miles, you're gonna lose weight. Get your head in the game, get your bike fixed, and start running. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Scout7 - 2007-11-01 2:51 PM It's an online calculator, so it's making some assumptions. Here's my thoughts on what you should do: Go out and train for your race. If weight loss is really key for you right now, then you need to find a nutritionist who can help you with your diet. You're worried about detail stuff, and missing the forest for the trees. I think that by training to run a marathon, swim 2.4 miles, and bike 112 miles, you're gonna lose weight. Get your head in the game, get your bike fixed, and start running. You should print this and put it on your parent's refrigerator at home. This is gospel to you............
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Definitely don't rely on the calculators. The greatest calorie burn will come from the activity that requires the most effort from you. Do the hardest thing, for the longest period of time you have, to burn the most calories. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() chirunner134 - 2007-11-01 3:45 PM StarGazer - 2007-11-01 3:24 PM Well according the the site coolrunning site and http://www.healthstatus.com/cgi-bin/calc/calculator.cgiIt says if you run 12 min/mile pace you burn less calories than a 15 mph bike ride. Now maybe the 15 mph bike ride has too many factors to be accurate at all but that is what the sites say. IT could jsut be a flaw in the site and how they calculate calories burnt.I don't post much, but your facts and conclusions are just so wacko (to use the technical term) I just have to say something. There is no way that biking 1hr at 15 mph burns more cals than running 1hr at 5 mph. As you say in a later post your heart rate is lower when biking and hr directly correlates to the amount of oxygen your using, so lower hr less O2, less calories burned. Then the online calculators is wrong. the fact is that hr=o2=cals (not really = but its no quick way to type "proportional to" Not that I think you should be training for calories. Train to race or for health, control calories through diet.
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I said Run simply because you will get faster and have the ability to go farther the more miles you put in. (And as you drop the lbs) If nothing else, running will be more enjoyable and so you will be more likely to not bag the workout. (At least that is my story) Good Luck |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I can already tell this thread has the potential to surpass the other equally ridiculous one. My advice would be to spend as much time as possible working on your bench press. ![]() Dude, just get out there and DO IT! If you burn more then you're taking in then you'll lose weight. I don't understand why you would walk if you're training for a running event. The time you've spent looking this crap up could have been spent WORKING OUT. |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() We can all be Monday morning QB's and sit here and tell you what to do or argue over what will burn 20 more calories but what it comes down to is how bad you want it. You are signed up for the race of your life next August and what you do today and everyday forward will make the difference of finishing strong or blowing up and DNFing. You have plenty of time to drop the weight but it has to start now or else you will wake up next summer still argueing what will burn 50 more calories. I am definatly pulling for you man, I want to see you kick some serious A@@ in Kentucky but you need consistensy and the day in and day out working your tail off getting yourself physically and mentally ready for this challenge. Spend 3 less minutes on BT today and figure out how to change that tire. (You might need it in your race afterall) Get that bike on the trainer and just get the sweat a pouring. Eat right, train smart and own it. These are all easy things to say but hard to do. Look at any successful person in any walk of life be it business, athlete, or you name it and they got there with hard and smart work. There is no secret on how to eat an elephant but one bite at a time. No shortcuts, no technicalities to it but ONE BITE AT A TIME!!!! Now get out there and bust it man, we are pulling for you |
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