Fred D Mentor Group - Part II (Page 101)
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2012-09-28 12:44 PM in reply to: #4432162 |
Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II axteraa - 2012-09-28 10:33 AM ChrisM - 2012-09-28 2:29 PM tri808 - 2012-09-28 10:24 AM Lack of sunlight is the only thing that will put me on the trainer...which it has done already during weekdays. As far as weather. Cold temperatures have never stopped me yet. So what's everyone's trainer proocol for this winter? Trainer road? Jorge? Ergvideos? I'd like some structure, but I learned I can't do Jorge's program and a run concentrated winter without a potential for injury Shane - which I expect will be somewhere in the same torture level as Jorge! Why not just trim down Jorge's program? I think there are guidelines for what to keep and what to remove if you are more run focused. If they aren't on the program itself they are likely buried in the thread we kept going for it last winter. Yeah, I did that, but probably pared down the wrong things. Even spoke with Jorge about it. My problem was running the morning after I had done XXX watt intervals the night before. But that was also 25-30 pounds ago When you say Shane, what do you mean? |
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2012-09-28 12:47 PM in reply to: #4430804 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II mndymond - 2012-09-28 3:55 AM This is my random non tri related comment of the day: remember that stupid exam I had 3 weeks ago? I PASSED! Ya! Get to leave for California in March as originally planned! No remedial test for me! Woooo! Took them forever to get the marks out though... Yip yip yip yip, ki-yay! |
2012-09-28 12:48 PM in reply to: #4432187 |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II ChrisM - 2012-09-28 2:44 PM axteraa - 2012-09-28 10:33 AM ChrisM - 2012-09-28 2:29 PM tri808 - 2012-09-28 10:24 AM Lack of sunlight is the only thing that will put me on the trainer...which it has done already during weekdays. As far as weather. Cold temperatures have never stopped me yet. So what's everyone's trainer proocol for this winter? Trainer road? Jorge? Ergvideos? I'd like some structure, but I learned I can't do Jorge's program and a run concentrated winter without a potential for injury Shane - which I expect will be somewhere in the same torture level as Jorge! Why not just trim down Jorge's program? I think there are guidelines for what to keep and what to remove if you are more run focused. If they aren't on the program itself they are likely buried in the thread we kept going for it last winter. Yeah, I did that, but probably pared down the wrong things. Even spoke with Jorge about it. My problem was running the morning after I had done XXX watt intervals the night before. But that was also 25-30 pounds ago When you say Shane, what do you mean? Oh, I know what you mean about running after a tough intervals workout. That's tough to manage for sure. I hired Shane (gsmacleod) as a coach - I put that in a post a couple of weeks ago but it may have gotten missed by some in the fast and furious pace of the group. |
2012-09-28 12:51 PM in reply to: #4432192 |
Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II I hired Shane (gsmacleod) as a coach - I put that in a post a couple of weeks ago but it may have gotten missed by some in the fast and furious pace of the group. Ah! Congrats! I used a coach a few years ago right before I got sick. Only did one race with her, Wildflower, but PRd it and did very well. Somewhat considering it again...... My problem was it became very solitary as I used to train with my friends a lot, with long weekend bike rides and runs, and the structure didn't fit in with that social aspect. Things have changed a bit though, so it may be time again. |
2012-09-28 12:57 PM in reply to: #4431707 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II riorio - 2012-09-28 10:02 PM I am impressed at how well everyone eats I also like Polan's book. I have the small "food rules" book in my kitchen. I know a lot of people who eat organic produce, free range and grass fed beef and I think that is awesome but must be very expensive. Just curious as to how you guys eat, do you use a coop? Organic? Local grocery store? Here in AZ, there are very few farmer's markets. It's hard to eat local and seasonal when it is so hot here in summer and nothing grows. I believe most of our produce comes from Mexico and CA. We are a family of 4. Both my husband and I are athletes, our boys are 10 and 13, also into lots of sports, they eat non stop! I shop primarily at 2 stores: Safeway (1 mile from my house) and Sprouts Farmer's market (a bit of a drive but close to my workplace). I use coupons and the weekly ads. Our weekly grocery bill often gets close to $200. I don't buy Organic produce unless it is on sale but I do spend a little extra on free range chicken and free range eggs. I am vegetarian but the rest of the family are not. We do have more pre-packaged foods in our pantry than I'd like but I think my kids eat very well overall. I eat a lot better since having moved back to Indonesia. One is the culture here; it's not a place where everyone has always had refrigerators, so even though now most middle and upper income folks do, the culture of fresh food, freshly prepared remains. Microwaves remain a luxury, though. You just can't buy microwaveable / prepackaged / TV-dinner type stuff here. Eating out is incredibly cheap, the choices are fantastic and most of the food is made like it would be at home. Portions are normal, and the centerpieces are the rice and vegetables. Meat's kind of like a decoration here, and with so many yummy styles of tempeh and tofu, easy to live without and I often do. There's always a vast array of tropical fruits. Another thing I've noticed about the produce here; it tastes like something. A potato tastes like a potato, not like some giant bland mushy thing like it did in the States. Tomatoes are red, juicy, and sweet. Meat has a bit of a gamey taste; many places here, even in the developed areas, it's harder to get factory-produced meat than it is to get a butchered chicken from the neighborhood market. That can be both good and bad, since there's a lot of gross stuff around environmentally and you really have no idea what these animals are eating, but I think overall it's better. It tastes better. I've also HAD to eat better because I so desperately have wanted to maintain what little health I seemed to have and to recover from whatever disgusting ailment I currently found myself in. |
2012-09-28 1:01 PM in reply to: #4333512 |
Member 5452 NC | Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II After sickness and nagging injury, finally had a run this morning (all of 2.25 miles!) that felt good. I'm sticking to 2/3 mile runs for the next few weeks and go from there. I mentioned several posts ago that I thought my feet might have expanded/spread out/something because even my running shoes felt cramped. Well, lo and behold, went and got a half size larger and they feel great. I don't know why, while I biatch and moan about foot pain, I was just too cheap and/or lazy to go get some new shoes. The new shoes are lighter (but certainly not lightweight) which is nice because my Brooks Glycerines felt like I was swinging 5lb weights on my feet. We'll see how this goes. Have a great weekend folks.
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2012-09-28 1:03 PM in reply to: #4432214 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II Goosedog - 2012-09-29 2:01 AM After sickness and nagging injury, finally had a run this morning (all of 2.25 miles!) that felt good. I'm sticking to 2/3 mile runs for the next few weeks and go from there. I mentioned several posts ago that I thought my feet might have expanded/spread out/something because even my running shoes felt cramped. Well, lo and behold, went and got a half size larger and they feel great. I don't know why, while I biatch and moan about foot pain, I was just too cheap and/or lazy to go get some new shoes. The new shoes are lighter (but certainly not lightweight) which is nice because my Brooks Glycerines felt like I was swinging 5lb weights on my feet. We'll see how this goes. Have a great weekend folks. Good to see you out and about again! Feet can get larger, for all sorts of reasons (you have not been pregnant lately, I take it? ). I like Brooks and am fine in them up to about a half-marathon, but after that they start feeling like lead blocks on my feet. |
2012-09-28 1:30 PM in reply to: #4333512 |
Expert 1260 Norton Shores, MI | Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II I think I am going to use the EN Outseason plan this year so everything will be fairly high intensity which will be new from a running standpoint. I have primarily gotten faster through volume on the run. Bike will be weekly 2x20 at 95-100% and VO2 work. I am able to recover pretty quickly from bike intensity but the run has me a little worried. I will see how it goes. I am doing a half marathon tomorrow. No real preparation for this just running off base fitness so will see how it goes. The last 3 miles worry me a little bit as I have not been running long consistenly. Macmillan has me under 1:27 based on the 15K in June but I do not think my running is good enough to translate that over to HM at this point in the year. Not taking the race too seriously. Have a good weekend! |
2012-09-28 1:50 PM in reply to: #4432187 |
Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II My off season plan is to use TR and some of Jorge's plan. I won't be going full bore as I also want to save some energy to build back my running and swimming. My goal is to just keep good maintenance on the bike. Last year I let it slip way too far during marathon training. |
2012-09-28 2:40 PM in reply to: #4333512 |
Elite 3779 Ontario | Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II I'm all over the map on what I want to do ths winter - I want to improve everything... Maybe you guys can give feedback on 8 week blocks of concentrated focus, IOW 5-6 sessions a week of one discipline while maintaining the other two, and then switch and move over to another discipline. My initial worry with that approach is that it's not enough time of concentration. |
2012-09-28 3:20 PM in reply to: #4333512 |
Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II I think 5-6 weeks is enough time to see improvements on the bike and swim. Running usually tends to take a little longer to make improvements for me. |
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2012-09-28 4:13 PM in reply to: #4431731 |
Champion 6656 | Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II ratherbeswimming - 2012-09-28 8:10 AM Thanks guys! Just finished ANOTHER exam today--my emergency med final. We had a question that was basically "what do lights and sirens mean?" lol. Not a doctor yet, but in less than 9 months I will be! Kind of frightening...not going to lie. Haha. I'm doing Oceanside 70.3, but I'm going for 2 weeks after my rotation to chill out and study for my composite 4th year exam on the beach. It means that I dont have to stay behind in Edmonton and write the remedial practical exam for those who failed it on the first round! Yippeeee!!! tasr - 2012-09-28 6:14 AM mndymond - 2012-09-27 3:55 PM This is my random non tri related comment of the day: remember that stupid exam I had 3 weeks ago? I PASSED! Ya! Get to leave for California in March as originally planned! No remedial test for me! Woooo! Took them forever to get the marks out though...
Woo hoo!! Congrats! |
2012-09-28 4:15 PM in reply to: #4333512 |
Champion 6656 | Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II I'm in Jasper for the weekend for an emergency medicine conference. I plan on getting a run in soon and then ride tomorrow. I have a deep tissue massage planned for Sun before I come home. Getting ready to run in Victoria next weekend! Woooo! |
2012-09-28 4:46 PM in reply to: #4432632 |
Master 2912 ...at home in The ATL | Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II mndymond - 2012-09-28 5:13 PM ratherbeswimming - 2012-09-28 8:10 AM Thanks guys! Just finished ANOTHER exam today--my emergency med final. We had a question that was basically "what do lights and sirens mean?" lol. Not a doctor yet, but in less than 9 months I will be! Kind of frightening...not going to lie. Haha. I'm doing Oceanside 70.3, but I'm going for 2 weeks after my rotation to chill out and study for my composite 4th year exam on the beach. It means that I dont have to stay behind in Edmonton and write the remedial practical exam for those who failed it on the first round! Yippeeee!!! tasr - 2012-09-28 6:14 AM mndymond - 2012-09-27 3:55 PM This is my random non tri related comment of the day: remember that stupid exam I had 3 weeks ago? I PASSED! Ya! Get to leave for California in March as originally planned! No remedial test for me! Woooo! Took them forever to get the marks out though...
Woo hoo!! Congrats! Q. what do lights and sirens mean? A. It means you are fine and that you should IMMEDIATELY begin to inquire as to the condition of your bike. congratulations, Melissa - that is a great accomplishment. And sounds like you have a nice plan to "celebrate." |
2012-09-28 5:55 PM in reply to: #4432679 |
Champion 6656 | Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II TankBoy - 2012-09-28 3:46 PM Hahahaha. Rusty, I can just picture the ambulance showing up and strapping your bike to the spine board! Too bad it wasn't short answer...if the marker would get a kick out of it if he/she was a cyclist! Hahamndymond - 2012-09-28 5:13 PM ratherbeswimming - 2012-09-28 8:10 AM Thanks guys! Just finished ANOTHER exam today--my emergency med final. We had a question that was basically "what do lights and sirens mean?" lol. Not a doctor yet, but in less than 9 months I will be! Kind of frightening...not going to lie. Haha. I'm doing Oceanside 70.3, but I'm going for 2 weeks after my rotation to chill out and study for my composite 4th year exam on the beach. It means that I dont have to stay behind in Edmonton and write the remedial practical exam for those who failed it on the first round! Yippeeee!!! tasr - 2012-09-28 6:14 AM mndymond - 2012-09-27 3:55 PM This is my random non tri related comment of the day: remember that stupid exam I had 3 weeks ago? I PASSED! Ya! Get to leave for California in March as originally planned! No remedial test for me! Woooo! Took them forever to get the marks out though...
Woo hoo!! Congrats! Q. what do lights and sirens mean? A. It means you are fine and that you should IMMEDIATELY begin to inquire as to the condition of your bike. congratulations, Melissa - that is a great accomplishment. And sounds like you have a nice plan to "celebrate." |
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2012-09-28 6:31 PM in reply to: #4333512 |
Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II Planning for a 45 minute run after work, then about 2500 in the pool. That would make 3 swims this week...OMG! Longish ride Saturday, then see if I can push the 8.5 mile run I did last Sunday a tiny pit harder this week. Also going to an air show where the Blue Angels will be performing. |
2012-09-28 6:33 PM in reply to: #4432760 |
Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II Fred D - 2012-09-28 4:03 PM GoFaster - 2012-09-28 3:40 PM . Neil I would suggest simply making a priority list of what you want to work on. I'm not a big fan of dropping a discipline altogether unless you have to for injury. Pick one discipline and make sure you hit the workouts no matter what for the week in that one. Then pick your second discipline where you try to get something consistent in for the week, and then of course something has to give, which is the last discipline where of get in what you can but accept that some weeks won't workout as well as others. For me that will be RUN-SWIM-BIKE. But truthfully I ride for fun on the weekends anyway so I get lots in regardless. My focus is to get 2-3 swims in a week, but all of the 3-2-1 plan runs in. I'm all over the map on what I want to do ths winter - I want to improve everything... Maybe you guys can give feedback on 8 week blocks of concentrated focus, IOW 5-6 sessions a week of one discipline while maintaining the other two, and then switch and move over to another discipline. My initial worry with that approach is that it's not enough time of concentration. I was actually considering giving up swimming for a couple months and focusing strictly on R/B, but sounds like you think that's not a great idea. Have you started BarryP yet? |
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2012-09-28 8:02 PM in reply to: #4432817 |
Elite 3779 Ontario | Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II TSimone - 2012-09-28 8:06 PM Just read this tweet from Triathlete Mag. "7 communities submitted bids for IM Canada, they're down to 3: Kelowna, BC; Huntsville, Ont. and Whistler. 2013 host determined by mid-Oct." Interesting. Not sure I'm ready for a full, but Huntsville is less than 3 hours away, and my parents live in Kelowna (which for anyone not in the know is simply an amazing part of the country. The city is right on the Okanagan lake surrounded by hills and mountains). Whistler - would kill any budget of mine. |
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2012-09-28 8:04 PM in reply to: #4432785 |
Elite 3779 Ontario | Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II ChrisM - 2012-09-28 7:33 PM Fred D - 2012-09-28 4:03 PM GoFaster - 2012-09-28 3:40 PM . Neil I would suggest simply making a priority list of what you want to work on. I'm not a big fan of dropping a discipline altogether unless you have to for injury. Pick one discipline and make sure you hit the workouts no matter what for the week in that one. Then pick your second discipline where you try to get something consistent in for the week, and then of course something has to give, which is the last discipline where of get in what you can but accept that some weeks won't workout as well as others. For me that will be RUN-SWIM-BIKE. But truthfully I ride for fun on the weekends anyway so I get lots in regardless. My focus is to get 2-3 swims in a week, but all of the 3-2-1 plan runs in. I'm all over the map on what I want to do ths winter - I want to improve everything... Maybe you guys can give feedback on 8 week blocks of concentrated focus, IOW 5-6 sessions a week of one discipline while maintaining the other two, and then switch and move over to another discipline. My initial worry with that approach is that it's not enough time of concentration. I was actually considering giving up swimming for a couple months and focusing strictly on R/B, but sounds like you think that's not a great idea. Have you started BarryP yet? I think in your case Chris this is not a terrible idea, since you're a swimmer and can gain it back in a hurry. Someone like me, I'm away from the pool for a week and it all falls apart in a hurry. Fred - when you say pick a discipline, is that something you would really focus on for the whole winter, or what sort of timeline would you put on it? |
2012-09-28 8:10 PM in reply to: #4432785 |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II ChrisM - 2012-09-28 8:33 PM Fred D - 2012-09-28 4:03 PM GoFaster - 2012-09-28 3:40 PM . Neil I would suggest simply making a priority list of what you want to work on. I'm not a big fan of dropping a discipline altogether unless you have to for injury. Pick one discipline and make sure you hit the workouts no matter what for the week in that one. Then pick your second discipline where you try to get something consistent in for the week, and then of course something has to give, which is the last discipline where of get in what you can but accept that some weeks won't workout as well as others. For me that will be RUN-SWIM-BIKE. But truthfully I ride for fun on the weekends anyway so I get lots in regardless. My focus is to get 2-3 swims in a week, but all of the 3-2-1 plan runs in. I'm all over the map on what I want to do ths winter - I want to improve everything... Maybe you guys can give feedback on 8 week blocks of concentrated focus, IOW 5-6 sessions a week of one discipline while maintaining the other two, and then switch and move over to another discipline. My initial worry with that approach is that it's not enough time of concentration. I was actually considering giving up swimming for a couple months and focusing strictly on R/B, but sounds like you think that's not a great idea. Have you started BarryP yet? Chris, you are a swimmer so you could get away with it but I wouldn't do it - at least not completely. I would still try to get in one per week or one every other week. I've done periods where I swim about that much (say twice in three weeks) and while it's still a rough restart, it comes back much quicker than from doing nothing at all for a couple of months. |
2012-09-28 8:13 PM in reply to: #4432817 |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: Fred D Mentor Group - Part II TSimone - 2012-09-28 9:06 PM Just read this tweet from Triathlete Mag. "7 communities submitted bids for IM Canada, they're down to 3: Kelowna, BC; Huntsville, Ont. and Whistler. 2013 host determined by mid-Oct." Kelowna would turn me off somewhat as it would seem like a childish pisssing contest with Penticton. Whistler would be cool and someplace I might consider for the future, but probably pricey. I know nothing about Huntsville... |
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