Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread (Page 102)

I am rocking a 5 er... 6 ummm...7 hour bottle...seriously a 20 oz bottle with about 1600 calories.  Plus a double aero with about 600 more.

dbdutro - 2011-05-18 9:40 PM

leopard8996 - 2011-05-18 4:33 PM There's still plenty of time for the water to warm up people It's in the high 60s and 70s this week in the NW and sunny so that should help. Hopefully we'll see a week or 2 in the 80s and 90s and then we should be set. Until we get race #s I think all stress over water temp should cease

Yes air temp is rising, but h2o temp has been falling. Check it out: http://waterdata.usgs.gov/id/nwis/uv/?site_no=12417610&PARAmete... I think that wather tem is falling because we still have a ton of snow to meld in the mountains. I'm getting in the lake next tuesday, I will give an update.

Not sure what that graph said, but it didn't look good. BBRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!

I would do it!  You're fit, ready for it and it will be fun.  Why not?  Just looked at your logs and noticed that 1) you will be fine because you've been training a lot and 2) you're a survivor.  Congratulations!  F cancer!!!  Super proud of you!

So let's talk about this cold water. 45-50F scares the crap out of these two Floridians.  We have some natural springs here in FL that stay at 69F all year round.  And those were COLD!

So what can you do to stay warm in temps like that?  Wear long tightts and sleeves under your wet suit?  Vasaline on your skin?  Anyone ever consider putting a couple of those chemical heat packs inside the suit?

Seriously, at this point we're more scared of the water temp than the bike or the run.  We just have no point of reference for 50 degree water...

I'm in Ga and I have the same fears of the cold water. I swam in mid 50s and the first time froze my face and brain and I wanted to stop at 25 and 100 yards but made it through 1000. The next time at the same temp we went a bit farther and it bothered me a bit less. Here is what Runnergirl wrote to me and I may have posted ages ago:

"Swim- so much contact, worse IM swim I've ever done as far as violence goes. I did IM FL in 2006 and the CDA swim was much worse than FL's swim. Not sure what to tell you about this besides be prepared for contact during the entire swim- it never really thinned out the 2nd lap like it did at IM FL. Also- I wore 2 swim caps since the water temp was around 61 degrees that morning and had a full wetsuit. It was cold but I honestly didn't notice the water temp at all because of the adrenaline and all the contact. I was surprised that the cold water didn't bother me at all."

I think she was the one who mentined the thin layer of vaseline on the face to me. I also think you can get a pair of the blue seventy neoprene booties if its that cold. Not sure you have to worry so much about what is beneath the wetsuit. Its the skin that is exposed that is worse off.

on the 150 mile ride, Achen2iron, I would say go for it too. My build for Florida included a 127 miler and this build I had a 131 miler. I credit those two rides with giving me some of the biggest confidence boosts as regards the bike for race day. Just be smart with pacing and breaks if you need them. You don't want too much fatigue or burnout to develop that late in the game.

And Nerdjock is absolutely right, F cancer!

Everyone says the water will warm up ....   I am heading to CDA this weekend and next weekend...and it's supposed to be warmer.  YEAH finally more than 1 day of sun in the PNW!! What a crappy sprinter...

Did my first open water swim of the year yesterday in 57 degrees - give or take...it was tolerable, but I did get an ice cream headache for a little bit. 

FULL wetsuit....booties, gloves, heavy swim cap, neoprine cap and latex cap... - we stayed in the water about 25 minutes.  My layers of caps kept my hair completely DRY...that prob helped keep me from freezing.

This was posted by a tri team in my area...pretty interesting....
http://www.weraisethebar.com/2011/05/03/open-water-swim-conditioning-for-cold-water/

Have a great training weekend....
Ann

What final workouts are some of you trying to accomplish as the finishing touch on your training?

As for the water temp, eh.  It's going to be really cold regardless so no need to spend time on that for me. 

remember it's a wetsuit not a drysuit... it works by allowing a thin layer of water inside the suit and then your body heat warms that water up.  The more space between the suit and you, the more water your body will need to be warming, and the LESS warm the suit will be.  Adding layers under your suit will not only do nothing, it will actually hurt you in terms of your fear of cold. 

As pointed out, it's the exposed parts that will feel it the worst.  Vaseline on the face, larger goggles (mask style instead of sweedish style), neoprene cap, booties, etc... that's what will help you.  You cannot wear gloves, as there would be a propulsion benefit (unless you had a condition like raynaud's disease and got permission from WTC, I suspect).

I also agree a few practice swims will help tremendously.  You do not want to plunge into high-50 degree water for the first time on race day.

Wait, wait, you can appeal things like that if you have medical reasons?  I may need to look into that as I've been suspicious that I have Raynauds for quite some time...

Proper wetsuit fit like Josh said, makes a big difference.  I raced it last year and the water was 60, and I did it without a neoprene cap.  The start was terrible for about 400 yards, then I got into a groove and felt good with the sun coming up.  By the end of the swim I was getting really cold just from time in the water.

I'll be wearing a neoprene cap this year.  You lose a ridiculous amount of heat through your head, so this makes a big difference.  Plus it covers your ears which I consider a side benefit.

As far as water temp im expecting 60 and hope for the best. Ive watched the usgs water temp site and the temp has been going up although slowly. One day it jumped 4 degrees so alot can change. The warmer weather we are finaly getting (mid-70s in CdA) could very well be melting the snow causing the temp to come down a bit. In the Seattle area I looked and Magnuson Beach was at 52 but Green Lake is 57 so theres differences even locally.

I looked at the IMTX forum and saw the water temp was 80!! That would concern me as well if wetsuits were not allowed. Im not a strong swimmer so I rely on the suit. Its my neoprene security blanket. Funny how different races have different concerns. We are worried about 60 degree water and IM TX is worried about 90degree+ temps.

3.5 weeks of long workouts and then time to let the body regenerate itself during the taper.

Will be in CdA over Memorial Weekend to run and ride. I will LOOK at the lake but really dont think I will jump in but will take my gear in case. Maybe for a quick dip  ;-)