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![]() | ![]() Originally posted by KansasMom "Long" run tonight. It was lovely, after the first 20 minutes or so. Man, I hate that first part of a run. I wanted to stay in town, so I ran eight different streets. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy greeting my neighbors and looking at their houses, but I sure wish I had some better sights to see sometimes -- like a nice long, quiet trail. My husband called me while I was running. He's in Chicago. He said, "Don't you wish you were running on the Lake Shore Trail instead?" I sure did!!! That's a must for me, and part of why I plan to fly into CHI for Nationals. Beautiful sights while running are the best. I plan many-o routes just to see things. But it's the unplanned surprises that I really love.
Speaking of unplanned surprises, I got bit by a poodle this morning. That is indeed a first. |
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![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by KansasMom "Long" run tonight. It was lovely, after the first 20 minutes or so. Man, I hate that first part of a run. I wanted to stay in town, so I ran eight different streets. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy greeting my neighbors and looking at their houses, but I sure wish I had some better sights to see sometimes -- like a nice long, quiet trail. My husband called me while I was running. He's in Chicago. He said, "Don't you wish you were running on the Lake Shore Trail instead?" I sure did!!! That's a must for me, and part of why I plan to fly into CHI for Nationals. Beautiful sights while running are the best. I plan many-o routes just to see things. But it's the unplanned surprises that I really love.
Speaking of unplanned surprises, I got bit by a poodle this morning. That is indeed a first. Wow!! Hope it wasn't serious. Itty bitty poodle or American Standard Poodle? |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I got my Jogo in today--4.5 mile run in 54 minutes. Its getting a bit toasty here; with temps possibly hitting triple digits this week. Because of this and the fact that I have a race in two weeks, I have a question: I hear of athletes in tris and OCRs using salt or mustard in races to help combat dehydration/cramping issues. I have been lucky to never reach any type of cramping, but with the super HOT temps coming up, I am wondering if this is something I should look into, and if so, how much, when, and how often? Thanks Pod! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally poste Did you bite him back? Either one of you injured?Speaking of unplanned surprises, I got bit by a poodle this morning. That is indeed a first. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by kgore Sorry, not much help from me as I never take salt tabs and have never heard of the mustard thing.I got my Jogo in today--4.5 mile run in 54 minutes. Its getting a bit toasty here; with temps possibly hitting triple digits this week. Because of this and the fact that I have a race in two weeks, I have a question: I hear of athletes in tris and OCRs using salt or mustard in races to help combat dehydration/cramping issues. I have been lucky to never reach any type of cramping, but with the super HOT temps coming up, I am wondering if this is something I should look into, and if so, how much, when, and how often? Thanks Pod! |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by kgore Google Saltsticks. They are good there is a guide on his website on usage too.I got my Jogo in today--4.5 mile run in 54 minutes. Its getting a bit toasty here; with temps possibly hitting triple digits this week. Because of this and the fact that I have a race in two weeks, I have a question: I hear of athletes in tris and OCRs using salt or mustard in races to help combat dehydration/cramping issues. I have been lucky to never reach any type of cramping, but with the super HOT temps coming up, I am wondering if this is something I should look into, and if so, how much, when, and how often? Thanks Pod! |
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Science Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Got my jogo in: 32 minute run after work with DH and E. Not so crazy hot tonight, which is awesome. Working on installing all the new parts on the bike trailer so E and I can go for a ride tomorrow! Happy Burley figured out a way to make the trailer safe to use with carbon frames. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Tried to convince myself that 8 hours of range ( in the sun) and defensive tactics was a good Jogo, but I couldn't do it. So... 42 minute ride, done. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by 4agoodlife Ok, I have decided I need to work on speeding up on my runs. So far, for a year, I have pretty much just gone out and run... slowly. No plan (let the pod eye rolling commence). No real goal, except get back home or not fall of the treadmill. I need to change that. Jogo tonight was 1:4 run/walk on the 4.6mi loop. Did it in 57:41. Looked at my min by min and was happy to see that my fastest run minute was at 51. I'm going to do this for the week and then fully run it on Sat or Sun. Not expecting to see a difference, but curious how it feels. I'll do some research when I get home next week for which plan I want to use. Erin, what did your research yield? I am far from fast, but the few times I have worked on speed, it has been by adding a harder run once a week. I have to focus on it, and work on it, but if I hit it consistently for a couple of months, I'll see improvement. My four factors for running improvements are:
Like I said, I am FAR from an expert, but that is what has helped this old body improve. I am currently in a speed cycle, for about 3 more weeks. Then it is back to running for the sake of running for a bit, give the ole legs a chance to catch up. |
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Royal(PITA) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Jogo made me swim tonight. I thought I had picked a shorter set. Wondered why it was taking me so long. Got home and realized I did 3000 yards. OOPH. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by StaceyK Great job to the racing Manatees this weekend (I know the weekend is over but yesterday was a holiday here so its only just done for me)! I've been reading some running stuff and I now need some advice as to whether I am in the realm of possibility or not with a goal I have. So my goal is to run the HM at the Perth city2surf at the end of August (12weeks away). I have the Hal Higdon beginner HM 12 week plan which has 3 run days a week. The thing that has got me questioning it is that the weekly mileage seems to increase very quickly. Also, and this is probably the biggest thing, the 4k run that I did last weekend is the longest run that I have ever done. I don't have a very strong running base and my training has been a bit haphazard so i am already struggling to do the distances that are on the plan. I know that the Manatee motto is JUST DO EEEET, but is this the best option or should I work on the running base and do the 10km instead? Should I be running shorter distances and running more often? Am I just over thinking this and need to just HTFU and do it? I want to do this event but I want to do it properly and enjoy it not suffer my way through it and I also want to run it not ran/walk it. Stacey, I echo the sentiments of those much smarter than I, like Ben and Felicia. Keep running, keep building your base and give your body a chance to get stronger. HM's will be available in other places, in other years, at other times. And you have an opportunity to do many of them, if you avoid injury and develop your skills. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Heh, I did something like that once. I started with with a 50 and went by 50s up to 400, and was planning on going back down, but realized I had way underestimated the time that was going to take (and the effort). |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Here's my race report from Sunday. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Manatees, are we quieter since migrating to the new site..or do I just keep up better... |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jobaxas Manatees, are we quieter since migrating to the new site..or do I just keep up better... At least 80% of earlier posting seemed to be Yanti & Adrienne going back and forth. That's been a bit quieter lately. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by jobaxas Manatees, are we quieter since migrating to the new site..or do I just keep up better... At least 80% of earlier posting seemed to be Yanti & Adrienne going back and forth. That's been a bit quieter lately. They must be doing that on private messages - now I feel all excluded. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by 4agoodlife Ok, I have decided I need to work on speeding up on my runs. So far, for a year, I have pretty much just gone out and run... slowly. No plan (let the pod eye rolling commence). No real goal, except get back home or not fall of the treadmill. I need to change that. Jogo tonight was 1:4 run/walk on the 4.6mi loop. Did it in 57:41. Looked at my min by min and was happy to see that my fastest run minute was at 51. I'm going to do this for the week and then fully run it on Sat or Sun. Not expecting to see a difference, but curious how it feels. I'll do some research when I get home next week for which plan I want to use. Erin, what did your research yield? I am far from fast, but the few times I have worked on speed, it has been by adding a harder run once a week. I have to focus on it, and work on it, but if I hit it consistently for a couple of months, I'll see improvement. My four factors for running improvements are:
Like I said, I am FAR from an expert, but that is what has helped this old body improve. I am currently in a speed cycle, for about 3 more weeks. Then it is back to running for the sake of running for a bit, give the ole legs a chance to catch up. For both of you, would recommend continuing to build up run volume. That has been the biggest determining factor for my improvement. For faster running, maybe some strides at most. If you don't know what those are, pick either of say 70-100 yds or 30 seconds, and pick up the pace for that. Build into say 5k pace or so throughout that time/distance. This is not a sprint, but a way to get more used to running faster without adding much stress. I tend to do them throughout a run, but others will find a flat, straight section of road (or a track) and do them there. I'm not really sure the run volume is quite there for much other work, such as a tempo. For anything like that or various intervals you want to be well warmed up beforehand. That usually takes a couple miles. Then some easy running afterward, and this is already at about what a "normal" run might be for each of you. Then to do enough "speed" to be useful, you'd have to make this a relatively long run. I'm not too big on that as you're stressing yourself by both distance AND intensity in the same run. That will be a big physiological cost. This is not to say one should only ever do easy pace in the long run, but rather to generally try and keep the main speed work separate from the long run. Something else that can help is the use of hills. The uphill can help develop more power without as much impact. Do be careful on the downhills though. Take it easy at first. Scout had recommended only going faster on ones that are 3% grade or less (matching my experience as well). I'd say take it easy on all of them for now and get used to working the uphill. The downhill can be helpful, but it can also be a lot harder as you're falling farther vertically with each step, more so as you go faster. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Meh. I expect it has to do with the fact that everyone is getting some nice weather and is outside enjoying it in one form or another. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by bcraht Meh. I expect it has to do with the fact that everyone is getting some nice weather and is outside enjoying it in one form or another. Darn this southern hemisphere. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Oh, and having said that on things like a tempo, if you need to do one of the fitness tests for pacing or HR, go ahead and do it if you feel healthy enough for it. That's a one time, or once in awhile thing. Different from doing something on a much more regular basis, like weekly. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Ah yes, but we were all jealous of you in December.... ![]() |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jobaxas Originally posted by bcraht Meh. I expect it has to do with the fact that everyone is getting some nice weather and is outside enjoying it in one form or another. Darn this southern hemisphere. What is "winter" like for you anyway? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Mostly rainy. We get some snow some winters and the occasional 'bad' winter, but mostly rainy. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by jobaxas Originally posted by bcraht Meh. I expect it has to do with the fact that everyone is getting some nice weather and is outside enjoying it in one form or another. Darn this southern hemisphere. What is "winter" like for you anyway? Well it gets down to 1C in July but just in the morning. It's averaging at the moment about 15-17C (mid fifties to sixties F) But Melbourne is south. Queensland for example is still about 70-80 and that's winter. But they have a rainy season from december to March...really rainy. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Holy smoke!!! That was the latest bit of training I've done in years. Didn't start my jogo until 9:20. eeek. Had to cut it short and only did 3.25mi, going up the main road and back. I felt good keeping to my 1:4 plan. Hit my run minute three times going up some good hills, twice on fairly flats and twice downhill...oh boy! Best part? I felt like a speedy manatee for 7/38ths of my run :D Edited by 4agoodlife 2013-06-05 12:45 AM |
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