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I liked the course for toughman SC but was hoping for a bigger race. I had received emails for toughman races for 3 years and thought they would do it up like a Rev3 race. So in that regard I was disappointed. I was invited to the championship race in NY but it is during our anniversary and I will be deferring. Nate

Hey all. I have been scarce and getting ready to be more so. We have been busting butt to get all the holiday stuff packed up and pack for our vacation. We are leaving this Friday to go to Key West for a week. We are meeting some other folks we met in BT land to do the Key West half marathon. Speaking of run:walk. I will start with my ususal 3:1 intervals but probablly just degrade into a shuffle due to my severe lack of training. No matter. It will all be good. When I am done, I will be in Key West, so...  From there I am meeting my Mom in Ft Lauderdale to take her on an 8 day cruise for her 90th birthday. There are several of our friends going as well so it will be fun times. I have a pact with one of them to spend an hour working out on all days we are not in a port. I am pretty sure I won't have any internet access so I won't be here much at all. When I get home, I have 4 days before I have to have a second surgery on my right hand which will make me even more scarce. Hopefully this recovery will be quick and I'll be back to approchaing normal ASAP.

Also, adding to the DL list. I have a pretty severe ear/sinus infection that needs to get gone FAST! Flying will be un-fun if it doesn't. Let alone being sick on a vacation.

Hal Higdon has some good marathon training programs. At a quick glance this looks to be his novice plan, which is good for your 1st.   So, as far as training for the April marathon, following his program is a good thing. Further, only running 3 x a week is doable as training for a marathon, knowing which workout to drop could be important though! 

My real concern is your 70.3 training.  If all you are doing is 1 bike session a week you may not be ready for Muncie - which I think is about 2.5 months after your marathon. I don't remember what you wrote about your bike experience -just remember you had a tough swim at Muncie last year, so perhaps you are skilled enough to ramp up the bike in 2 months (assuming a 2 week taper) to get you through the bike.  I find in triathlon -especially the longer distances, the bike sets up the run, so if you trash yourself on the bike, you will have a very long run day!!   

ETA: A lot of us decide which race is our A race and then pick other races to complement it, eg, Janyne, Lisa and I are doing IM Chattanooga 9/30 and will do the Lake Logan HIM in early August as a tune up.  If Muncie is your A race you may want to consider a different marathon -perhaps one post HIM, so you can focus on the 70.3 training.

Just a thought, I don't want to be a nay sayer!! 

I don't use it except when warming up with those that do, but know lots of people who use it for training and racing. Galloway is a good resource, but from what I've seen he has really shortened the run portion of all his run:walk intervals - our LRS has a galloway training program - i used it when first deciding to run a marathon (though the only time i actually did run:walk was when training with my group!) , and I've seen the changes over the years.  It seems the older he gets, the more walking and less running he thinks everyone else should do   Here is his current breakdown Run Walk  -

Run ratio should correspond to the pace used (Runners).
8 min/mi—run 4 min/walk 30 seconds
9 min/mi— 2 min run/walk 30 seconds
10 min/mi—-1:30/30
11 min/mi—1:00/30
12 min/mi—-1:00/30 or 40/20
13 min/mi—-30/30
14 min/mi—30/30 or 30/20
15 min/mi—15/30
16 min/mi—10/30

This type of interval would make me nuts! But YMMV!!  We have a few pace groups in my training program that do run:walk, but the shortest run is, I think, 7 minutes. The basic idea is giving your run muscles a little break saves them and lets you run faster overall, eg, you don't tire your muscles out, so even though your're walking (it should be brisk!) your overall pace will end up faster than if you ran the entire way.

Hope this helps.

Yes indeed, I'm convinced there are at least 6 disciplines to this triathlon thing, S/B/R is half, but so is Nutrition/Plan/Recover. If you find yourself being tired during the work part, you may need to make some adjustments to the eating or recovery or training methods to maximize your gains. Keep in mind too that (as many people have been quoted) it doesn't get easier, you get stronger. So keep working, but learn from it all and don't be afraid to adjust where you need to.

When I am doing Big Training, I know that I need to stock reasonable snacks at work. I also think that Karen is right, start with hydration. If, after drinking quite a bit of appropriate fluids you are still hungry, move on to calories. I'm actually way better about hydration when I am at work because I am in a routine -- must drink at least half of my nalgene bottle of water before moving on to coffee, etc.

Huh???????????????

yeah, I don’t understand this at all!!

yeah, I don’t understand this at all!!

me either. How is this even possible?

So I found an.... interesting challenge for a race this year.  It is a four day event, a marathon each day, at Four Corners. One marathon each day in Colorado, Utah, Arizona and New Mexico. It's run by the same group that does the Antelope Canyon Ultra that Lisa did last year.  It's in December. So, if DS2 and I are able to swing the Dopey Challenge in 2019 then I'll probably do the HM's instead. If DS2 and I can't/don't get in to Dopey, then I think I'm doing a quad marathon in December.

Jensie just did seven and he's not even a runner!!!!

They (an organization within Navajo Nation) also have a couple neat looking, shorter distance, races up near the Grand Canyon that I might do.