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2011-07-13 10:08 PM
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^^^^^ THAT is awesome, thanks for posting!



I'm gettin' stoked!







2011-07-14 1:19 AM
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That's a good list.  I don't bring quite that much stuff.  I wear a tri suit throughout and all my food is 2 bottles of infinit and 8 GUs. 

So tri suit, wetsuit, goggles, sunscreen, bodyglide.

Bike, helmet socks, glasses, pump, 3x CO2, 2 tubes on me 1 in special needs, handpump on the bike, aerobottle, water bottle, toolkit on the bike.

Running shoes, hat, racebelt with GU's in it for the run. 

So to chime in with everyone elses fatigue, I ran 4 miles today, felt good 7:30 pace and then came home and took a 4 hour nap.  Tapped me out, reserves not replenshed yet.   

2011-07-14 9:10 AM
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ironjim - 2011-07-13 9:38 PM I would love to hear some pre-race plans and check lists!
We plan on getting there Thursday afternoon and gonna take it easy the rest of the day!
THURSDAY NIGHT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT NIGHT'S SLEEP!!! I don't usually sleep well the night before a race so make sure I do on Thursday!!
Friday~ Sleep in as late as I can! Do an easy bike and maybe a swim, pre-race meeting and a light dinner. Also will organize all the race bags!
Saturday AM
Get up probably around 3AM and drink some coffee
Breakfast will be a shake with Fighter's Blend and a scoop of Endurox.

Check Lists

Swim
  • 2 pair of goggles (just in case I lose one or they break)
  • Vineman swim cap
  • swim tights
  • flip flops
  • body glide
  • Wetsuit (if allowed)
I will also have another Fighter's Blend/Endurox Shake right before swim

Bike
If you are bringing race wheels make sure you ride with them prior to race day, no surprises!!
  • Bike
  • Helmet
  • Sunglasses
  • Cycling Bib
  • Cycling Jersey
  • Cycling Gloves
  • Chamois Butter!!
  • 2 spare tubes
  • Bento Box with Cliff Bars packed in it
  • My Patch kit is in a water bottle and I put
  •          3 CO2
  •          Tire levers
  •          Allen wrenches to adjust seat, brakes, etc.
  •          Patches
  • I will also bring a small hand pump and a spare tire (I flatted 7 times during IMC in 01 because someone dumped carpet tacks throughout the bike course)
Bike Special Needs (if allowed)
  • 2 CO2 Cartridges
  • 2 Tubes
  • Nutrition
Run
  • Running Shorts
  • Running Top
  • Socks
  • Shoes
  • GPS Watch
  • Chamois Butter!!
  • Hat
  • Towel (to keep soaked on head and neck if hot)
  • Water bottle
  • Gels
  • Peanut butter and jelly sammich!
  • Salt tabs
Run Special Needs
  • Clean socks
  • long sleeve (it will be dark and cold)
  • more Chamois butter
  • headlamp
  • more nutrition

Hopefully this gives some ideas and I would love to hear from others on what they are doing!!

Don't forget your bike shoes!!

2011-07-14 9:13 AM
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Ha, thank you very much Runner Girl!! I drove to LA last month to do a ride with Mitch and forgot my cycling shoes!!
2011-07-14 9:18 AM
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Since I'll be spectating I'm planning to camp out at a good spot on the run course- any suggestions?

I'm thinking of setting up a little "BT Pit-Stop" and have a few things.  I'll have a super soaker if anyone wants to get sprayed), as well as some sunblock, TUMS, icy/hot, the stick, and a few other nice to haves   If anyone has any recommendations on what else I should have lemme know. I plan to make a BT sign so all the racers can look for me!



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2011-07-14 9:58 AM
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Barely got a 5.5 mile run in today.  1st work out of the week  Work has me so stressed this week and I feel major fatigue!  Maybe the fatigue is heightening my stress.  I dunno I'm just glad I'm tapering now and don't have to put in big numbers.  Get me through this next 2 days and all will be good!!!


2011-07-14 10:10 AM
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runnergirl - 2011-07-14 10:18 AM

Since I'll be spectating I'm planning to camp out at a good spot on the run course- any suggestions?

I'm thinking of setting up a little "BT Pit-Stop" and have a few things.  I'll have a super soaker if anyone wants to get sprayed), as well as some sunblock, TUMS, icy/hot, the stick, and a few other nice to haves   If anyone has any recommendations on what else I should have lemme know. I plan to make a BT sign so all the racers can look for me!

 

Awesome! Something like vasoline might be nice. I'll be looking forward to the super soaker all six times I pass you!

 

I will also bring a small hand pump and a spare tire (I flatted 7 times during IMC in 01 because someone dumped carpet tacks throughout the bike course)

Whoa. I think at some point I might give up. OK, maybe not. But that is a lot of flatting. The debate in my mind was whether to come prepared for one flat or two. I think I'll go with two tubes, 3 CO2s, and the self-adhering patches that are in my tire irons. There'll be a support car out there somewhere if things get ridiculously bad, right? I've heard stories of people flatting twice during an IM, but I haven't flatted in the last 2,500 miles, and I ride what have to be some of the worst roads in the country. That said, I can't imagine how disappointing it would be to DNF because of flats.

I'm with y'all on the fatigue and motivation. Seems my body mostly wants to sit around and eat ice cream right now. I've also got my first case of saddle sores to deal with. Keeping it clean and well greased hasn't taken care of it, so I'm headed to the drug store for some Neosporin this afternoon, and I may swap out my Adamo for a regular saddle for a little while to try to take friction off that area. Anyone have any magic cures I haven't thought of?

2011-07-14 10:52 AM
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Vasoline- CHECK!
2011-07-14 11:09 AM
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runnergirl - 2011-07-14 9:18 AM

Since I'll be spectating I'm planning to camp out at a good spot on the run course- any suggestions?

I'm thinking of setting up a little "BT Pit-Stop" and have a few things.  I'll have a super soaker if anyone wants to get sprayed), as well as some sunblock, TUMS, icy/hot, the stick, and a few other nice to haves   If anyone has any recommendations on what else I should have lemme know. I plan to make a BT sign so all the racers can look for me!

Duct tape (the all-purpose product). 

Might be a good place for spouses/friends/family members to congregate too. 

2011-07-14 12:27 PM
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runnergirl - 2011-07-14 9:18 AM

Since I'll be spectating I'm planning to camp out at a good spot on the run course- any suggestions?

I'm thinking of setting up a little "BT Pit-Stop" and have a few things.  I'll have a super soaker if anyone wants to get sprayed), as well as some sunblock, TUMS, icy/hot, the stick, and a few other nice to haves   If anyone has any recommendations on what else I should have lemme know. I plan to make a BT sign so all the racers can look for me!

 

A way for me to find you so I can sit with you!!!!!

2011-07-14 2:06 PM
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I'm having some of those BT Temp tattoos delivered.  I'll have a few extra so we can pick ourselves out of the crowd.


2011-07-14 4:46 PM
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runnergirl - 2011-07-14 9:18 AM

Since I'll be spectating I'm planning to camp out at a good spot on the run course- any suggestions?

I'm thinking of setting up a little "BT Pit-Stop" and have a few things.  I'll have a super soaker if anyone wants to get sprayed), as well as some sunblock, TUMS, icy/hot, the stick, and a few other nice to haves   If anyone has any recommendations on what else I should have lemme know. I plan to make a BT sign so all the racers can look for me!

 

A way for me to find you so I can sit with you!!!!!

Great!  I could definitely use some company since I'll be spectating solo. 

2011-07-14 6:40 PM
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Probably bring a chair and setup on the high school side of the street by the trees where you can get some shade between the finish and the first turn.  That is where I would hang out, cool, everyone comes by 6 times and they will be on that side of the street.  Not sure where you can replenish your water unless you set up at an aid station farther in. 
2011-07-14 11:09 PM
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My mom will be out there cheering.  If you gentlemen get heckled by some random lady, say hello to Mama triOK.  Don't worry, she's harmless.

 

She loves coming to my races to watch "me" race.  

2011-07-15 7:11 AM
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So this question might have already been addressed but I'm too lazy to look back through the thread ......What are the Volunteers usually like? This is my first Non-IM branded Full and I know that the Volunteers are usually really helpful (often times too helpful) especially in Transition in the IM branded races and I'm just wondering if I can expect the same if not better at Vineman





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2011-07-15 1:46 PM
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They have wetsuit strippers.. for enterainment... But the vollunteers are good, but not as pushy as the IMs.  Part of it is the lower number of people (1000 vs 2500).  I belive Vineman used to be IM branded but they dropped the branding, so the organizational structure is similar.  Do you have specific questions?


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neweyes - 2011-07-14 8:10 AM
runnergirl - 2011-07-14 10:18 AM

Since I'll be spectating I'm planning to camp out at a good spot on the run course- any suggestions?

I'm thinking of setting up a little "BT Pit-Stop" and have a few things.  I'll have a super soaker if anyone wants to get sprayed), as well as some sunblock, TUMS, icy/hot, the stick, and a few other nice to haves   If anyone has any recommendations on what else I should have lemme know. I plan to make a BT sign so all the racers can look for me!

 

Awesome! Something like vasoline might be nice. I'll be looking forward to the super soaker all six times I pass you!

 

I will also bring a small hand pump and a spare tire (I flatted 7 times during IMC in 01 because someone dumped carpet tacks throughout the bike course)

Whoa. I think at some point I might give up. OK, maybe not. But that is a lot of flatting. The debate in my mind was whether to come prepared for one flat or two. I think I'll go with two tubes, 3 CO2s, and the self-adhering patches that are in my tire irons. There'll be a support car out there somewhere if things get ridiculously bad, right? I've heard stories of people flatting twice during an IM, but I haven't flatted in the last 2,500 miles, and I ride what have to be some of the worst roads in the country. That said, I can't imagine how disappointing it would be to DNF because of flats.

I'm with y'all on the fatigue and motivation. Seems my body mostly wants to sit around and eat ice cream right now. I've also got my first case of saddle sores to deal with. Keeping it clean and well greased hasn't taken care of it, so I'm headed to the drug store for some Neosporin this afternoon, and I may swap out my Adamo for a regular saddle for a little while to try to take friction off that area. Anyone have any magic cures I haven't thought of?

 

I battled saddle sores a few years ago.  I Googled a bunch of things and while this will not prevent them, Preparation H will help shrink them.  At this point, your training is in the bank.  Let the sores heal, before jumping back on the bike.

2011-07-15 1:59 PM
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Baowolf - 2011-07-15 12:46 PM They have wetsuit strippers.. for enterainment... But the vollunteers are good, but not as pushy as the IMs.  Part of it is the lower number of people (1000 vs 2500).  I belive Vineman used to be IM branded but they dropped the branding, so the organizational structure is similar.  Do you have specific questions?

PBI - Sorry for crashing your thread, but actually there was one year, 2002, that Vineman partnered with WTC (NA Sports at that time, I believe) and was officially IM Vineman.  The reason was that was the year of the first, original IM Utah.  The weather was bad, and the wind blew all the buoys off the swim course.  The swim was canceled, but not until after they fired the start cannon, so it was chaos. 

They held up everyone coming out of the water and turned it into roughly a half distance duathlon.

Because of the chaos, they offered entries into other IMs - 50 to Canada, 50 to LP, 50 to Florida and the rest they partnered with Vineman for the one and only 'Ironman Vineman'

Sorry if I just bored everyone to tears....

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Baowolf - 2011-07-15 2:46 PM They have wetsuit strippers.. for enterainment... But the vollunteers are good, but not as pushy as the IMs.  Part of it is the lower number of people (1000 vs 2500).  I belive Vineman used to be IM branded but they dropped the branding, so the organizational structure is similar.  Do you have specific questions?



Not really any specific questions...I was just wondering what to expect in transition as I'm starting to think about transition logistics.....good to hear that there are wetsuit strippers...that's one less thing to worry about going into T1...Thanks!



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Baowolf - 2011-07-15 12:46 PM They have wetsuit strippers.. for enterainment... But the vollunteers are good, but not as pushy as the IMs.  Part of it is the lower number of people (1000 vs 2500).  I belive Vineman used to be IM branded but they dropped the branding, so the organizational structure is similar.  Do you have specific questions?

PBI - Sorry for crashing your thread, but actually there was one year, 2002, that Vineman partnered with WTC (NA Sports at that time, I believe) and was officially IM Vineman.  The reason was that was the year of the first, original IM Utah.  The weather was bad, and the wind blew all the buoys off the swim course.  The swim was canceled, but not until after they fired the start cannon, so it was chaos. 

They held up everyone coming out of the water and turned it into roughly a half distance duathlon.

Because of the chaos, they offered entries into other IMs - 50 to Canada, 50 to LP, 50 to Florida and the rest they partnered with Vineman for the one and only 'Ironman Vineman'

Sorry if I just bored everyone to tears....

No. It's an interesting bit of history.  Thanks for posting.

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Baowolf - 2011-07-15 11:46 AM They have wetsuit strippers.. for enterainment... But the vollunteers are good, but not as pushy as the IMs.  Part of it is the lower number of people (1000 vs 2500).  I belive Vineman used to be IM branded but they dropped the branding, so the organizational structure is similar.  Do you have specific questions?

Question. I've done 7 tri's (sprints + 1 Oly) and can take my wetsuit off pretty quickly on my own.  How does a stripper add any value?



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ecpasos - 2011-07-15 1:36 PM

Question. I've done 7 tri's (sprints + 1 Oly) and can take my wetsuit off pretty quickly on my own.  How does a stripper add any value?

It'd only be the speed really.  Tough to be faster than just rolling on your back and having two people yank off your suit though.  I always get my suit stuck on my ankles/heel (and I've even put cutouts on my suit) so it helps me out quite a bit.

BTW, at Vineman, the carpet in T1, where the strippers typically are gets a little sandy/gravelly so if you use the stripper (and even if you don't), expect to get some sand on you (e.g. feet) which you may want to clean off to avoid irritation/blisters.

Also, sticking dollar bills into the clothing of the strippers would probably not be welcome, but a heartfelt thanks would be.

2011-07-15 3:48 PM
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Just jumping in to say hi, I'm coming up for Barb's race the same weekend and may have a few spectators to add to the BT cheering crew. My husband likes the water gun idea and is already determining his "cooling arsenal" for race day.

 

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ecpasos - 2011-07-15 1:36 PM

Baowolf - 2011-07-15 11:46 AM They have wetsuit strippers.. for enterainment... But the vollunteers are good, but not as pushy as the IMs.  Part of it is the lower number of people (1000 vs 2500).  I belive Vineman used to be IM branded but they dropped the branding, so the organizational structure is similar.  Do you have specific questions?

Question. I've done 7 tri's (sprints + 1 Oly) and can take my wetsuit off pretty quickly on my own.  How does a stripper add any value?

I dunno...but I've done something like 20 tri's, I think (2 IMs) and I normally wouldn't hesitate at this point to let a wetsuit stripper pull the thing off me.  Definitely a little wearier and wobblier after swimming 2.4 miles than 1500m.  Stripper at IM St George certainly yanked my suit off me faster than I've ever managed to do myself.  OTOH, Donato had a good point about the narrow area and the sand where they'd be removing the suit at VM...there is that to consider.

I would say that Steve is 100% correct about the "pushy" factor (nicer word might be "solicitous", I suppose)...at VM, once you were at your bike in T1, you were left alone.  At IM St George, I had a guy hovering over me wanting to help put my wetsuit and swim gear in the bag for transport to the finish.  Both were point-to-point (two transition) iron distance races, but different approaches on the part of the volunteers.  VM is a bit more "DIY"...nobody tackling you coming out of the changing tent in T2 and slathering sunscreen on you.

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tcovert - 2011-07-15 1:58 PM 

I dunno...but I've done something like 20 tri's, I think (2 IMs) and I normally wouldn't hesitate at this point to let a wetsuit stripper pull the thing off me.  Definitely a little wearier and wobblier after swimming 2.4 miles than 1500m.  Stripper at IM St George certainly yanked my suit off me faster than I've ever managed to do myself.  OTOH, Donato had a good point about the narrow area and the sand where they'd be removing the suit at VM...there is that to consider.

I would say that Steve is 100% correct about the "pushy" factor (nicer word might be "solicitous", I suppose)...at VM, once you were at your bike in T1, you were left alone.  At IM St George, I had a guy hovering over me wanting to help put my wetsuit and swim gear in the bag for transport to the finish.  Both were point-to-point (two transition) iron distance races, but different approaches on the part of the volunteers.  VM is a bit more "DIY"...nobody tackling you coming out of the changing tent in T2 and slathering sunscreen on you.

Just to piggy back on Todd's comments on differences, the changing tent is quite small and you are doing most of your transition at your rack location that is typical at shorter distance or non-IM branded races.  Changing tent is really only provided if nudity is involved and not a main changing area like at full IM branded races.  There aren't bike handlers (i.e. you re-rack your bike yourself at T2).

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