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2013-02-06 8:48 AM
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JJ- - 2013-02-06 6:33 AM 15 minutes into my run this morning IT Band tightened up. I'm really trying to stay positive but 8 weeks out from my first 70.3 and I can only run 15 minutes??

Staying positive is important!

When you say that your IT band tightens up, do you feel it in your knee or hip or somewhere else?  Did you stretch before running?  Did your doctor give you any dynamic stretches to do as part of your run warm up?  (The knee cradle can help me a lot!)

Let us know what your coach and doctor say. 

And since we have been talking about shoes -- how many miles are on yours?



2013-02-06 8:53 AM
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Hey, thanks for the well-wishes and prayers, everyone ...

On the bright side, I "tested the waters" with the world's easiest 2500m swim this morning. It was fine except open turns only 'cause flipping made it feel like my sinuses were going to blow out of my face!

On the bright side, the cough seems to have dried up a little and died down a little.

On the down side, my head is completely congested, but it's better than having my chest congested and wheezing.

On the down side, I'm rocking a 101-102 F fever tonight.

So it's rest, rest, more rest for me.

I'm still believing that this down time is helping to build back and consolidate all the hard training I've done! I mean, a better attitude can't hurt and I feel a lot better being positive than ... well ... than feeling crappy! I already physically feel crappy enough, no need to pile it on myself.

So yeah, staying positive is important--keeps the feel-good healing-vibes going. No really, it's a much better hormonal and neurotransmitter milieu going on in your body if you even just try to keep your chin up.

THIS IS WHAT I KEEP TELLING MYSELF IN BETWEEN GRUMPUS SESSIONS.

2013-02-06 8:59 AM
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jmkizer - 2013-02-06 9:48 AM

JJ- - 2013-02-06 6:33 AM 15 minutes into my run this morning IT Band tightened up. I'm really trying to stay positive but 8 weeks out from my first 70.3 and I can only run 15 minutes??

Staying positive is important!

When you say that your IT band tightens up, do you feel it in your knee or hip or somewhere else?  Did you stretch before running?  Did your doctor give you any dynamic stretches to do as part of your run warm up?  (The knee cradle can help me a lot!)

Let us know what your coach and doctor say. 

And since we have been talking about shoes -- how many miles are on yours?

Jonathan, this really matters for me. I know it kills my knees. Too many miles = much pain.

2013-02-06 9:10 AM
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JJ- - 2013-02-06 5:33 AM15 minutes into my run this morning IT Band tightened up. I'm really trying to stay positive but 8 weeks out from my first 70.3 and I can only run 15 minutes??
Oh man, I understand the injury bug all too well, how very frustrating. One thing I've learned ( well mostly learned) is you have to let things heal or it isn't pretty! Hope you and your doctor find the solution in time for your race.
2013-02-06 9:39 AM
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jmkizer - 2013-02-06 8:48 AM

JJ- - 2013-02-06 6:33 AM 15 minutes into my run this morning IT Band tightened up. I'm really trying to stay positive but 8 weeks out from my first 70.3 and I can only run 15 minutes??

Staying positive is important!

When you say that your IT band tightens up, do you feel it in your knee or hip or somewhere else?  Did you stretch before running?  Did your doctor give you any dynamic stretches to do as part of your run warm up?  (The knee cradle can help me a lot!)

Let us know what your coach and doctor say. 

And since we have been talking about shoes -- how many miles are on yours?

I feel it on the outside of my knee. There wasn't any pain but I felt it coming and didn't want to make it worse so I stopped before any pain.

Prior to this injury I had a non-existant stretching routine. Since the injury I have foam rolled and stretched twice per day. I warmed up and stretched a little before today's run. I'll look at the link to dynamic stretches

I see my doc in 30 minutes and another phone call with coach this afternoon. She suggested water running as well

Shoes have 106 miles

2013-02-06 9:40 AM
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Thanks for the responses everyone! I am trying to not to whine and cry and stay positive but sometimes I just get frustrated. This morning when I posted I was very very frustrated since I had just come back from my 15 minute run.

I'm hanging in there!



2013-02-06 9:54 AM
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JJ- - 2013-02-06 11:40 PM

Thanks for the responses everyone! I am trying to not to whine and cry and stay positive but sometimes I just get frustrated. This morning when I posted I was very very frustrated since I had just come back from my 15 minute run.

I'm hanging in there!

It's cool, we can play bumper cars with our pity party wagons in between the positive spikes

2013-02-06 10:41 AM
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jmkizer - 2013-02-06 6:37 AM
bcraht - 2013-02-05 7:45 PM

Ooooh I know this one.  I posted pics of mine Embarassed.  Whenever I get a new pair of shoes (Adistar Rides) my orthotics cause hideous blisters.  I usually duct tape for a few runs, then they are fine.  I had forgotten this when I switched to New Balance shoes for one go 'round.  When I went back to the Ride, I remembered that I had that issue.  Problem is, the Ride is the only shoe that seems to work for me--so I tolerate the blister issue.

Explain about the duct tape.  I did read something about it but it seemed like a bad plan on top of existing blisters but once they heal up...

I just wrap a strip of duct tape around my foot at the arch.  I go almost all the way around or it slips.  I have actually done it over existing blisters.  Stops them from getting worse.  Yes, it will sometimes rip the skin off the blister, but I find that better than rubbing the skin off over time on a run... Something else that works that you may be able to get at a pharmacy is the clear bandages that they put over IV catheters.  It is about 3x4" and super thin.  I can't remember the name just now, I'll go look at the package and let you know.

2013-02-06 11:04 AM
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jobaxas - 2013-02-06 3:39 AM Despite being dizzy and a bit if a blubbering mess today the end if the day turned on the charm. Beautiful OWS 2.5km give or take absolutely gorgeous at the beach and then a run with the sun setting on the ocean....git home to the news my nephews wife gave birth to a baby boyI am now a Great Aunt!

Congrats! I love being a Great Aunt. My sister has 3 grandsons and I adore each of them. It's like having the benefits of being a grandma without having to actually be one *shudder*

2013-02-06 11:10 AM
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Woooot!  New swim PR--we did a couple all out 100s this morning.  1:40 on both.  For anyone who wants some unsolicited swim advice: swim more.  Duh, right?  But since I am swimming 4 times per week (even though it is the same yardage as 3 swims per week), stuff is clicking.
2013-02-06 11:16 AM
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bcraht - 2013-02-06 11:10 AM Woooot!  New swim PR--we did a couple all out 100s this morning.  1:40 on both.  For anyone who wants some unsolicited swim advice: swim more.  Duh, right?  But since I am swimming 4 times per week (even though it is the same yardage as 3 swims per week), stuff is clicking.

Nice work Kirsten! Imagine that, hard work and consistency paying off Smile



2013-02-06 11:17 AM
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bcraht - 2013-02-07 12:41 AM
jmkizer - 2013-02-06 6:37 AM
bcraht - 2013-02-05 7:45 PM

Ooooh I know this one.  I posted pics of mine Embarassed.  Whenever I get a new pair of shoes (Adistar Rides) my orthotics cause hideous blisters.  I usually duct tape for a few runs, then they are fine.  I had forgotten this when I switched to New Balance shoes for one go 'round.  When I went back to the Ride, I remembered that I had that issue.  Problem is, the Ride is the only shoe that seems to work for me--so I tolerate the blister issue.

Explain about the duct tape.  I did read something about it but it seemed like a bad plan on top of existing blisters but once they heal up...

I just wrap a strip of duct tape around my foot at the arch.  I go almost all the way around or it slips.  I have actually done it over existing blisters.  Stops them from getting worse.  Yes, it will sometimes rip the skin off the blister, but I find that better than rubbing the skin off over time on a run... Something else that works that you may be able to get at a pharmacy is the clear bandages that they put over IV catheters.  It is about 3x4" and super thin.  I can't remember the name just now, I'll go look at the package and let you know.

3M makes a waterproof film dressing you can buy in pharmacies. Folks use it for tattoos and such.

A lot of people also use moleskin over blisters, with a sticky bandage to hold it firmly in place.

2013-02-06 11:22 AM
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TriAya - 2013-02-06 9:17 AM
bcraht - 2013-02-07 12:41 AM
jmkizer - 2013-02-06 6:37 AM
bcraht - 2013-02-05 7:45 PM

Ooooh I know this one.  I posted pics of mine Embarassed.  Whenever I get a new pair of shoes (Adistar Rides) my orthotics cause hideous blisters.  I usually duct tape for a few runs, then they are fine.  I had forgotten this when I switched to New Balance shoes for one go 'round.  When I went back to the Ride, I remembered that I had that issue.  Problem is, the Ride is the only shoe that seems to work for me--so I tolerate the blister issue.

Explain about the duct tape.  I did read something about it but it seemed like a bad plan on top of existing blisters but once they heal up...

I just wrap a strip of duct tape around my foot at the arch.  I go almost all the way around or it slips.  I have actually done it over existing blisters.  Stops them from getting worse.  Yes, it will sometimes rip the skin off the blister, but I find that better than rubbing the skin off over time on a run... Something else that works that you may be able to get at a pharmacy is the clear bandages that they put over IV catheters.  It is about 3x4" and super thin.  I can't remember the name just now, I'll go look at the package and let you know.

3M makes a waterproof film dressing you can buy in pharmacies. Folks use it for tattoos and such.

A lot of people also use moleskin over blisters, with a sticky bandage to hold it firmly in place.

Bioclusive is the one I was thinking of.  J&J.  I always found moleskin more of an irritant than a help...

 

Huh.  That's what some people say about me.  Surprised

2013-02-06 11:23 AM
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Asalzwed - 2013-02-06 9:16 AM

bcraht - 2013-02-06 11:10 AM Woooot!  New swim PR--we did a couple all out 100s this morning.  1:40 on both.  For anyone who wants some unsolicited swim advice: swim more.  Duh, right?  But since I am swimming 4 times per week (even though it is the same yardage as 3 swims per week), stuff is clicking.

Nice work Kirsten! Imagine that, hard work and consistency paying off Smile

Yeah, who'da thunk?

2013-02-06 11:26 AM
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bcraht - 2013-02-07 1:10 AM Woooot!  New swim PR--we did a couple all out 100s this morning.  1:40 on both.  For anyone who wants some unsolicited swim advice: swim more.  Duh, right?  But since I am swimming 4 times per week (even though it is the same yardage as 3 swims per week), stuff is clicking.

*wolf whistle*

Manatee whistle?

How 'bout dolphins-out-the-blowhole whistle? That would seem most appropriate here.

2013-02-06 11:27 AM
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Doc referred me to another sports med doc for a second opinion and to get some medicine. He said they will probably give me steroid and prescrip antibiotic. He said I'm doing everything right but it takes time but since race is 8 weeks away he wants to be more aggressive.


2013-02-06 11:42 AM
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bcraht - 2013-02-06 12:10 PM Woooot!  New swim PR--we did a couple all out 100s this morning.  1:40 on both.  For anyone who wants some unsolicited swim advice: swim more.  Duh, right?  But since I am swimming 4 times per week (even though it is the same yardage as 3 swims per week), stuff is clicking.

Congrats, very cool!!  The proverbial silver lining, perhaps?!

2013-02-06 11:43 AM
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JJ- - 2013-02-06 11:27 AM Doc referred me to another sports med doc for a second opinion and to get some medicine. He said they will probably give me steroid and prescrip antibiotic. He said I'm doing everything right but it takes time but since race is 8 weeks away he wants to be more aggressive.

Hmm and how do you feel about it? Will you proceed?

2013-02-06 11:48 AM
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Asalzwed - 2013-02-06 11:43 AM

JJ- - 2013-02-06 11:27 AM Doc referred me to another sports med doc for a second opinion and to get some medicine. He said they will probably give me steroid and prescrip antibiotic. He said I'm doing everything right but it takes time but since race is 8 weeks away he wants to be more aggressive.

Hmm and how do you feel about it? Will you proceed?

I'm here now. Going to at least get the second opinion
2013-02-06 11:49 AM
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JJ- - 2013-02-07 1:27 AM Doc referred me to another sports med doc for a second opinion and to get some medicine. He said they will probably give me steroid and prescrip antibiotic. He said I'm doing everything right but it takes time but since race is 8 weeks away he wants to be more aggressive.

I will say the roids are great for inflammation ... but they do suppress your immune system so stay the hell away from EVERYBODY! Wait, that's me.

What would the antibiotics be for? Avoid fluoroquinolones at nearly all costs unless it really is a life-and-death thing (the "floxacins," like Cipro/ciprofloxacin, moxifloxacin, etc.). They can have a nasty way of rupturing soft tissue, even for months after you take them.

2013-02-06 11:52 AM
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TriAya - 2013-02-06 11:49 AM

JJ- - 2013-02-07 1:27 AM Doc referred me to another sports med doc for a second opinion and to get some medicine. He said they will probably give me steroid and prescrip antibiotic. He said I'm doing everything right but it takes time but since race is 8 weeks away he wants to be more aggressive.

I will say the roids are great for inflammation ... but they do suppress your immune system so stay the hell away from EVERYBODY! Wait, that's me.

What would the antibiotics be for? Avoid fluoroquinolones at nearly all costs unless it really is a life-and-death thing (the "floxacins," like Cipro/ciprofloxacin, moxifloxacin, etc.). They can have a nasty way of rupturing soft tissue, even for months after you take them.

Meant naproxen not antibiotic


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JJ- - 2013-02-07 1:52 AM
TriAya - 2013-02-06 11:49 AM

JJ- - 2013-02-07 1:27 AM Doc referred me to another sports med doc for a second opinion and to get some medicine. He said they will probably give me steroid and prescrip antibiotic. He said I'm doing everything right but it takes time but since race is 8 weeks away he wants to be more aggressive.

I will say the roids are great for inflammation ... but they do suppress your immune system so stay the hell away from EVERYBODY! Wait, that's me.

What would the antibiotics be for? Avoid fluoroquinolones at nearly all costs unless it really is a life-and-death thing (the "floxacins," like Cipro/ciprofloxacin, moxifloxacin, etc.). They can have a nasty way of rupturing soft tissue, even for months after you take them.

Meant naproxen not antibiotic

Ah well now that is quite different but it's never a bad thing to get the word out about the fluoroquinolones. For active athletes who have any choice, this is really important information to have.

Anyhow, I hope whatever you and the 2nd doc decide to do really helps.

2013-02-06 12:00 PM
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TriAya - 2013-02-06 12:59 PM
JJ- - 2013-02-07 1:52 AM
TriAya - 2013-02-06 11:49 AM

JJ- - 2013-02-07 1:27 AM Doc referred me to another sports med doc for a second opinion and to get some medicine. He said they will probably give me steroid and prescrip antibiotic. He said I'm doing everything right but it takes time but since race is 8 weeks away he wants to be more aggressive.

I will say the roids are great for inflammation ... but they do suppress your immune system so stay the hell away from EVERYBODY! Wait, that's me.

What would the antibiotics be for? Avoid fluoroquinolones at nearly all costs unless it really is a life-and-death thing (the "floxacins," like Cipro/ciprofloxacin, moxifloxacin, etc.). They can have a nasty way of rupturing soft tissue, even for months after you take them.

Meant naproxen not antibiotic

Ah well now that is quite different but it's never a bad thing to get the word out about the fluoroquinolones. For active athletes who have any choice, this is really important information to have.

Anyhow, I hope whatever you and the 2nd doc decide to do really helps.

VERY VERY important.  That's the combination Judi was on when she tore her achilles.  I ended up on Cipro and prednisone, but stopped working out for a month just to be safe.

2013-02-06 12:01 PM
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Holy cow! I'm getting a swim in before NOON. Wonders will never cease.
2013-02-06 12:02 PM
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My hips are getting even more sore.  I think it's my SI Joint. Now it's even hurting while I walk during the day.  I decided to be smart and go to the doctor early.  Was able to get an appointment tomorrow!  I'm guessing it's back to PT for me, but that's just fine.  This is really not a pleasant experience.
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