'The' Gun Thread (Page 12)

I have to deal with the media in one way or another quite a bit during their coverage of shootings/murders, etc. in my area.....honestly, I think you give them too much credit if you think it is all agenda driven.  Most of those people wouldn't know the business end of a gun if you pointed it at them.  They get hung up on terms......"drive-by shooting", "assault weapon", "suicide by cop", blah, blah,blah.  They look good on TV, but they aren't necessarily the sharpest tools in the shed when it comes to guns.

Yeah but he can kill you with his pen/phone/watch ejector seat in his car etc.

I read the following opinion piece last night:   http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/gun-debate-culture-deba... and the following stood out as an extremely important foundation to the gun debate (and any other debates concerning liberty and fundamental rights) - ..."a founding American principle: we permit the government to have guns, not the other way around. Citizens don’t need to justify owning an 'assault weapon,' the government needs to justify taking it."

I will have to use that!

Have you guys seen this story yet?

Family’s Home Raided over Facebook Photo of Child’s Rifle

Simply disgusting, is the only word I can think of.

I have plenty of pictures and video's of my kids not only holding guns, but shooting them on FB.  My daughter even used a picture of her holding my AR as her profile picture.  Guess I better get in my bunker before the Po Po show up.

If you do not think that NBC does not have a huge anti-gun slant then you are not paying attention. (for the record I'm talking about the news broadcast example, not the TV show example.)

Was just coming here to post that.  Could have been and my son this weekend as he was at the range shooting his 22.  Of course it was a single shot camo painted rifle.  Not the big black scary assault weapon pictured in the article.

Glad to see the dad knew his rights and refused them entry to the home.

So even if it was an AR in another caliber how is the kid holding it putting a child in danger?

This question is more for the people who are for gun control I guess because I would like to hear someone who agrees with this.

1. In 1958, the PPK was still pretty advanced for a concealed pistol
2. Starting in 1958, MI6 did supply their agents with the PPK
3. Their isn't exactly a lot of small English pistols :D  During WWII, the English pistols they carried were both revolvers (they also carried 1911s and S&Ws, but they aren't British mfrs)

And for the real reason, in the first 5 books, Bond carried a Beretta .25.  Geoffrey Boothroyd wrote Fleming and complained that that really is a crappy gun and no man in their right mind would carry one.  Boothroyd suggested the PPK.  The real Boothroyd became Major Boothroyd, the MI6 armourer, in From Russia with love, who became Q.

The complete mindless over reaction to ANYTHING bothers the hell out of me.

Many times it's not the side of the argument you are on that bugs me, it's the lack of ANY common sense/thinking some people have to establish their opinion.  I'll respect your opinion even if I don't agree with it if it's thought out.

This is just like the kid getting suspended years ago because their mom packed a knife in their lunch bag to cut an apple or something.  It's a complete reactionary, no common sense, hysterical overreaction based on some fear.

This situation is over the line and nauseating.  I'm 100% opposed to police and authority in MY home unless invited.  If this give them reasonable suspicion to enter a house?  Scary.

I mean RAID the house?  I'm even opposed to them being questioned, but I at least that would be a reasonable approach.  Just go to the door and ask about.  But to send people in?  I see WAY too many way that could get out of hand in a hurry.  Accidental shootings for starters.  By police OR homeowners just thinking they are protecting themselves.

Wow, insane. I'm not a gun owner (any more) but I've used to go shooting with the kids and our friends. We always took tons of pictures and there are still a few of their silhouette targets hanging in the basement. Since they are human-shaped, is that a now considered a threat?

Depends on the score.

I was surprised that this didn't generate more discussion in 'The' Gun Thread-- I thought it was pretty significant.

So I wonder if all the people that got caught up in the hysteria and bought over-priced guns are having some buyer's remorse about now.

I am just waiting for the stores to have ammo again and hoping the prices will come down a bit.

I really need to start (learn) reloading.

I can still find ammo around but it would be really nice to load my own for my .223, 30-30, and 7.5 Swiss.