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sdalessio - 2010-02-01 10:07 AM Tony and I signed up for our first race of the year last night.  A short sprint Mar. 27.  Our coach thought it would be a good idea to roll through the motions to get ready for Lonestar.

And weather alert for the DC area - it will snow on Feb. 28 since I also signed up for a 1/2 marathon that day.

Nice...  Of course you will still run even if it snows - right?



If I can still drive there, I will.  There is only one cream puff in our family!

OH WOW!!!!  I'm speechless....  Tony better defend himself quickly....



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So I helped a RD of a race down here out with a few things on his website.  He asked what I thought of the updates and a few other minor things.  And to say thanks he invited me to attend one of the following. 

---A run clinic with Matty Reed 

---A swim clinic with Andy Potts.

---Or dinner with both at a charity event.


Which one do you guys think I should attend? 

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ashort33 - 2010-02-01 10:19 AM

sdalessio - 2010-02-01 10:07 AM Tony and I signed up for our first race of the year last night.  A short sprint Mar. 27.  Our coach thought it would be a good idea to roll through the motions to get ready for Lonestar.

And weather alert for the DC area - it will snow on Feb. 28 since I also signed up for a 1/2 marathon that day.

Nice...  Of course you will still run even if it snows - right?



If I can still drive there, I will.  There is only one cream puff in our family!

OH WOW!!!!  I'm speechless....  Tony better defend himself quickly....



OUCH!!!
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sdalessio - 2010-02-01 10:07 AM Tony and I signed up for our first race of the year last night.  A short sprint Mar. 27.  Our coach thought it would be a good idea to roll through the motions to get ready for Lonestar.

And weather alert for the DC area - it will snow on Feb. 28 since I also signed up for a 1/2 marathon that day.

Nice...  Of course you will still run even if it snows - right?



If I can still drive there, I will.  There is only one cream puff in our family!



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2010-02-01 10:39 AM
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fattyfatfat - 2010-02-01 11:37 AM So I helped a RD of a race down here out with a few things on his website.  He asked what I thought of the updates and a few other minor things.  And to say thanks he invited me to attend one of the following. 

---A run clinic with Matty Reed 

---A swim clinic with Andy Potts.

---Or dinner with both at a charity event.


Which one do you guys think I should attend? 



Dinner, not sure how cool a clinic would be.  Athletes don't always make the best coaches.
2010-02-01 10:40 AM
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fattyfatfat - 2010-02-01 11:37 AM So I helped a RD of a race down here out with a few things on his website.  He asked what I thought of the updates and a few other minor things.  And to say thanks he invited me to attend one of the following. 

---A run clinic with Matty Reed 

---A swim clinic with Andy Potts.

---Or dinner with both at a charity event.


Which one do you guys think I should attend? 



That's awesome!

How many people are in the clinics?  I think that if they were small, I would go for one of those.  If they are big groups (or really short sessions), I would probably go for the dinner.  You could probably pick their brains for a lot of awesome info over some food and drink.


2010-02-01 10:49 AM
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fattyfatfat - 2010-02-01 11:37 AM So I helped a RD of a race down here out with a few things on his website.  He asked what I thought of the updates and a few other minor things.  And to say thanks he invited me to attend one of the following. 

---A run clinic with Matty Reed 

---A swim clinic with Andy Potts.

---Or dinner with both at a charity event.


Which one do you guys think I should attend? 



That's awesome!

How many people are in the clinics?  I think that if they were small, I would go for one of those.  If they are big groups (or really short sessions), I would probably go for the dinner.  You could probably pick their brains for a lot of awesome info over some food and drink.


all three are capped at 150.  seems kinda big for a clinic.  also becky lavalle will be at dinner to.

and i should post the charity is jenny's light   sad story.  i know first hand about postpartum.  nowhere near as bad as this woman had it though.
2010-02-01 10:55 AM
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fattyfatfat - 2010-02-01 11:37 AM So I helped a RD of a race down here out with a few things on his website.  He asked what I thought of the updates and a few other minor things.  And to say thanks he invited me to attend one of the following. 

---A run clinic with Matty Reed 

---A swim clinic with Andy Potts.

---Or dinner with both at a charity event.


Which one do you guys think I should attend? 



That's awesome!

How many people are in the clinics?  I think that if they were small, I would go for one of those.  If they are big groups (or really short sessions), I would probably go for the dinner.  You could probably pick their brains for a lot of awesome info over some food and drink.


all three are capped at 150.  seems kinda big for a clinic.  also becky lavalle will be at dinner to.

and i should post the charity is jenny's light   sad story.  i know first hand about postpartum.  nowhere near as bad as this woman had it though.


Dinner for sure...150 sounds more like a lecture than a clinic.  I remember reading about jenny's light and the whole store of her troubles...very sad.  A worthy cause to support with or without the pros.
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fattyfatfat - 2010-02-01 11:37 AM So I helped a RD of a race down here out with a few things on his website.  He asked what I thought of the updates and a few other minor things.  And to say thanks he invited me to attend one of the following. 

---A run clinic with Matty Reed 

---A swim clinic with Andy Potts.

---Or dinner with both at a charity event.


Which one do you guys think I should attend? 



Dinner, not sure how cool a clinic would be.  Athletes don't always make the best coaches.
X2 more likely to get some real interaction with them!



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gdale - 2010-02-01 10:55 AM
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fattyfatfat - 2010-02-01 11:37 AM So I helped a RD of a race down here out with a few things on his website.  He asked what I thought of the updates and a few other minor things.  And to say thanks he invited me to attend one of the following. 

---A run clinic with Matty Reed 

---A swim clinic with Andy Potts.

---Or dinner with both at a charity event.


Which one do you guys think I should attend? 



That's awesome!

How many people are in the clinics?  I think that if they were small, I would go for one of those.  If they are big groups (or really short sessions), I would probably go for the dinner.  You could probably pick their brains for a lot of awesome info over some food and drink.


all three are capped at 150.  seems kinda big for a clinic.  also becky lavalle will be at dinner to.

and i should post the charity is jenny's light   sad story.  i know first hand about postpartum.  nowhere near as bad as this woman had it though.


Dinner for sure...150 sounds more like a lecture than a clinic.  I remember reading about jenny's light and the whole store of her troubles...very sad.  A worthy cause to support with or without the pros.


yeah it does!   i think it will be dinner.
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dalessit - 2010-02-01 10:39 AM
fattyfatfat - 2010-02-01 11:37 AM So I helped a RD of a race down here out with a few things on his website.  He asked what I thought of the updates and a few other minor things.  And to say thanks he invited me to attend one of the following. 

---A run clinic with Matty Reed 

---A swim clinic with Andy Potts.

---Or dinner with both at a charity event.


Which one do you guys think I should attend? 



Dinner, not sure how cool a clinic would be.  Athletes don't always make the best coaches.


That was my thought exactly.  you may even be able to gain some run or swim tips just from dinner.  Who knows?  Plus having done numerous clinics in my former athletic life, it can be very difficult for a coach/trainer to evaluate you, your needs, and balance them w/ everyone else in the group in a one shot deal like a one day clinic. 


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personally, I would go for the runner's clinic with Matt Reed.  What if you aren't at the same table as the Matt or Andy?  At least you can pick up some working knowledge.  Reed does YOUtube videos and I always think they are informative.

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badgerintx - 2010-02-01 10:04 AM ****************    Warning...Training Question Below  ******************

Ok, so I just found out they have moved my "B" race this year to an earlier date which screwed everything up.  So now I have to rework my race schedule for 2010.

My question is for you "long time runners" out there.  Is it possible, if I come off several months of base training (my logs are on BT) with one sprint and three Oly's earlier in the year, to ramp up my running to complete a full Marathon (would be my first) with 9 weeks intensive training?  Any suggestions on a plan to increase my running significantly right after my 1st A race without getting hurt? 

Oh, and I can not have a bad showing at my "A" race nine weeks earlier because it is my War on ALS- Blazeman Foundation  (http://www.waronals.com) fundraiser race.

Any suggestions or ideas?

Thanks, Dino   


IMO training for a marathon was harder work than what I am doing for a HIM. 

What I would do is start a marathon plan 16-20 weeks out and overlap that with your oly training.  Obviously you'll be overtrained for the running in your olympic but you will be prepared for the marathon.


Dino

What is the goal for the marathon? to finish?

I do not believe that 9 weeks of intensive training is the way to go either.  3 of those weeks should be devoted to a taper leaving you with too few weeks to build your long runs.  I agree with Tony, marathon training is significantly harder on the body than triathlon, especially if this is your first.   The fact that your "A" race is 9 weeks before the marathon isn't an issue, but the way your race calendar lays out would dictate when to start marathon training. Can you provide those details?

Suzy


Current tenative schedule:
  • 4/25- Sprint Tri (Pool Swim)
  • 6/13- Oly Tri- Registered
  • 8/1 -  Oly Tri  (A Race)- Registered
  • 9/11- Oly Tri
  • 10/3- Possible Marathon??????????????

Based on a 16 week ramp up I would need to start June 14th, right after the Capital View Tri in your backyard.
Based on a 20 week ramp up I would need to start May 23rd.  

How much is the running ramp up going to hurt my bike / swim (my 2 strongest areas) going into the Ripon Med Tri on 8/1. The Oly in Sept was going to be just for fun before my IMMOO volunteer day and was not considered in my training plans for my previous 1/2 mary that I had scheduled at the end of October before it got moved to mid- Sept.  

I guess my other option is to just pick up a 15k or a 20k later in October and forgo the Mary if it going to consume all my training time.  Thoughts?

Dino  

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Opps.... forgot to answer the last questions. Marathon goal would to be in the 4 hour to 4 1/2 hour time frame. So 10 min/mile pace.
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badgerintx - 2010-02-01 12:28 PM Opps.... forgot to answer the last questions. Marathon goal would to be in the 4 hour to 4 1/2 hour time frame. So 10 min/mile pace.


I don't think the additional running would hurt.  Just take more time.
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badgerintx - 2010-02-01 10:04 AM ****************    Warning...Training Question Below  ******************

Ok, so I just found out they have moved my "B" race this year to an earlier date which screwed everything up.  So now I have to rework my race schedule for 2010.

My question is for you "long time runners" out there.  Is it possible, if I come off several months of base training (my logs are on BT) with one sprint and three Oly's earlier in the year, to ramp up my running to complete a full Marathon (would be my first) with 9 weeks intensive training?  Any suggestions on a plan to increase my running significantly right after my 1st A race without getting hurt? 

Oh, and I can not have a bad showing at my "A" race nine weeks earlier because it is my War on ALS- Blazeman Foundation  (http://www.waronals.comfundraiser race.

Any suggestions or ideas?

Thanks, Dino   


IMO training for a marathon was harder work than what I am doing for a HIM. 

What I would do is start a marathon plan 16-20 weeks out and overlap that with your oly training.  Obviously you'll be overtrained for the running in your olympic but you will be prepared for the marathon.


Dino

What is the goal for the marathon? to finish?

I do not believe that 9 weeks of intensive training is the way to go either.  3 of those weeks should be devoted to a taper leaving you with too few weeks to build your long runs.  I agree with Tony, marathon training is significantly harder on the body than triathlon, especially if this is your first.   The fact that your "A" race is 9 weeks before the marathon isn't an issue, but the way your race calendar lays out would dictate when to start marathon training. Can you provide those details?

Suzy


Current tenative schedule:
  • 4/25- Sprint Tri (Pool Swim)
  • 6/13- Oly Tri- Registered
  • 8/1 -  Oly Tri  (A Race)- Registered
  • 9/11- Oly Tri
  • 10/3- Possible Marathon??????????????

Based on a 16 week ramp up I would need to start June 14th, right after the Capital View Tri in your backyard.
Based on a 20 week ramp up I would need to start May 23rd.  

How much is the running ramp up going to hurt my bike / swim (my 2 strongest areas) going into the Ripon Med Tri on 8/1. The Oly in Sept was going to be just for fun before my IMMOO volunteer day and was not considered in my training plans for my previous 1/2 mary that I had scheduled at the end of October before it got moved to mid- Sept.  

I guess my other option is to just pick up a 15k or a 20k later in October and forgo the Mary if it going to consume all my training time.  Thoughts?

Dino  


i'll let the experts chime in here.  just want to say AWESOME that you are racing for ALS.  are they going to give you jons bib #, 179?


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John, Thanks for the vote of confidence. I got involved with ALS at a very young age when my next door neighbor got it while I was in high school. Jeff's story is linked below if anybody is interested and is almost as moving as Jon's. He has lived with it for 20+ years after being a division 1 level track star at Wisconsin.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/41128807.html

I
will update my signature closer to my race for anybody that is looking to donate to the cause.

I am still working on trying to get BIB 179, we will see what the RD will do for me there.

Dino

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thanks for sharing.  i forget where i read it, maybe jon's site.  its amazing to me that we now know as much about this horrific disease as we did when gehrig died in 1941.  how far we've come with television, vehicles, etc.  but this stays relatively the same.   amazing... and it sucks.
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badgerintx - 2010-02-01 12:28 PM Opps.... forgot to answer the last questions. Marathon goal would to be in the 4 hour to 4 1/2 hour time frame. So 10 min/mile pace.


I don't think the additional running would hurt.  Just take more time.


First, I am no coach, but I have done a few marathons so I'll chime in.  If biking and swimming are you strong sports, then taking away a little from them for running doesn't seem like a bad gamble to me.  You will be roughly 8 weeks into the marathon program by the time your A race rolls around so you can conceivably do a week taper for it and still be in good shape for the marathon ramp up.  If it were me, I would start with that plan in mind and see how you feel.  If it is taking too much time away from SB or it is too taxing on the body you can always back off to one of the shorter distance races.  You could also consider running a late season marathon like Grand Rapids (a great race) Philly or CIM.
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Ok, I need some help here.  I just got off the most grueling and frustrating trainer ride ever.  I got home from my bike fit, ate a little lunch, and even took a 30 min nap.  Once I woke up,  I was a little out of it, but was eager to try out my "new" bike.  After 10 minutes of constantly moving around my upper and lower body trying to get comfortable, I give up and just say, "well, I just have to let my body adjust to the correct position".  After 25 minutes, I get so frustrated, I quit.  My arms are totally fatigued, I can see my calves working like crazy (not supposed to happen), and I can't even get my butt in a comforatable spot!  After a 5 minute break to settle down and relax, I convince myself to get back on the bike and finish my hour ride.  I make it 45 before I had enough.  I have never actually cursed while riding the trainer before.  So, the point of my story - anyone want a 2008 Specialized Transition?  At this point, you can have it. 

This is so frustrating.  I am taking time off from my running to let my achilles stop hurting, my swim yesterday was terrible, and now I hate my bike.  Looks like it might be back to hockey.

Seriously, is it supposed to feel completely foreign after a fit?
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Jeepguy2358 - 2010-02-01 4:58 PM Ok, I need some help here.  I just got off the most grueling and frustrating trainer ride ever.  I got home from my bike fit, ate a little lunch, and even took a 30 min nap.  Once I woke up,  I was a little out of it, but was eager to try out my "new" bike.  After 10 minutes of constantly moving around my upper and lower body trying to get comfortable, I give up and just say, "well, I just have to let my body adjust to the correct position".  After 25 minutes, I get so frustrated, I quit.  My arms are totally fatigued, I can see my calves working like crazy (not supposed to happen), and I can't even get my butt in a comforatable spot!  After a 5 minute break to settle down and relax, I convince myself to get back on the bike and finish my hour ride.  I make it 45 before I had enough.  I have never actually cursed while riding the trainer before.  So, the point of my story - anyone want a 2008 Specialized Transition?  At this point, you can have it. 

This is so frustrating.  I am taking time off from my running to let my achilles stop hurting, my swim yesterday was terrible, and now I hate my bike.  Looks like it might be back to hockey.

Seriously, is it supposed to feel completely foreign after a fit?


Did he mess with your cleats at all?

From what I remember you weren't that bad before so the muscle groups you were using shouldn't have changed, meaning if you were really bad before a good fit could change which muscles were engaged at a certain time.

I would contact the fitter and see if he can make some adjustments.

But give it another ride or two on the trainer first, maybe today was just a bad day.


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Jeepguy2358 - 2010-02-01 4:58 PM Ok, I need some help here.  I just got off the most grueling and frustrating trainer ride ever.  I got home from my bike fit, ate a little lunch, and even took a 30 min nap.  Once I woke up,  I was a little out of it, but was eager to try out my "new" bike.  After 10 minutes of constantly moving around my upper and lower body trying to get comfortable, I give up and just say, "well, I just have to let my body adjust to the correct position".  After 25 minutes, I get so frustrated, I quit.  My arms are totally fatigued, I can see my calves working like crazy (not supposed to happen), and I can't even get my butt in a comforatable spot!  After a 5 minute break to settle down and relax, I convince myself to get back on the bike and finish my hour ride.  I make it 45 before I had enough.  I have never actually cursed while riding the trainer before.  So, the point of my story - anyone want a 2008 Specialized Transition?  At this point, you can have it. 

This is so frustrating.  I am taking time off from my running to let my achilles stop hurting, my swim yesterday was terrible, and now I hate my bike.  Looks like it might be back to hockey.

Seriously, is it supposed to feel completely foreign after a fit?


Did he mess with your cleats at all?

From what I remember you weren't that bad before so the muscle groups you were using shouldn't have changed, meaning if you were really bad before a good fit could change which muscles were engaged at a certain time.

I would contact the fitter and see if he can make some adjustments.

But give it another ride or two on the trainer first, maybe today was just a bad day.


No, he did not mess with the cleats.  He said they were in a pretty good position.  He raised my seat about 1-2 mm to get a little more extenstion, moved my saddle back to help get the hunch out of my back and shortened my aerobars to get me a little more compact.  We spent a good 1.5 hours covering all areas.  He classified me (obviously by his own judgement) as moderate aggressive when it comes to aero.

One thing I forgot to mention was that I wore my new bike shorts (for the second time).  The padding is considerably thicker than my tri shorts that I was fitted in.  I am going to try it again tomorrow and see what happens.  Otherwise, I might be doing IMLOO on my Gary Fisher mountain bike.

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Jeepguy2358 - 2010-02-01 4:58 PM Ok, I need some help here.  I just got off the most grueling and frustrating trainer ride ever.  I got home from my bike fit, ate a little lunch, and even took a 30 min nap.  Once I woke up,  I was a little out of it, but was eager to try out my "new" bike.  After 10 minutes of constantly moving around my upper and lower body trying to get comfortable, I give up and just say, "well, I just have to let my body adjust to the correct position".  After 25 minutes, I get so frustrated, I quit.  My arms are totally fatigued, I can see my calves working like crazy (not supposed to happen), and I can't even get my butt in a comforatable spot!  After a 5 minute break to settle down and relax, I convince myself to get back on the bike and finish my hour ride.  I make it 45 before I had enough.  I have never actually cursed while riding the trainer before.  So, the point of my story - anyone want a 2008 Specialized Transition?  At this point, you can have it. 

This is so frustrating.  I am taking time off from my running to let my achilles stop hurting, my swim yesterday was terrible, and now I hate my bike.  Looks like it might be back to hockey.

Seriously, is it supposed to feel completely foreign after a fit?


Did he mess with your cleats at all?

From what I remember you weren't that bad before so the muscle groups you were using shouldn't have changed, meaning if you were really bad before a good fit could change which muscles were engaged at a certain time.

I would contact the fitter and see if he can make some adjustments.

But give it another ride or two on the trainer first, maybe today was just a bad day.


No, he did not mess with the cleats.  He said they were in a pretty good position.  He raised my seat about 1-2 mm to get a little more extenstion, moved my saddle back to help get the hunch out of my back and shortened my aerobars to get me a little more compact.  We spent a good 1.5 hours covering all areas.  He classified me (obviously by his own judgement) as moderate aggressive when it comes to aero.

One thing I forgot to mention was that I wore my new bike shorts (for the second time).  The padding is considerably thicker than my tri shorts that I was fitted in.  I am going to try it again tomorrow and see what happens.  Otherwise, I might be doing IMLOO on my Gary Fisher mountain bike.


Sounds like you just need to HTFU buttercup.Wink

Seriously though, doesn't sound like too much changed, I would just write it off as a bad day.
2010-02-01 4:47 PM
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Jeepguy2358 - 2010-02-01 3:58 PM Ok, I need some help here.  I just got off the most grueling and frustrating trainer ride ever.  I got home from my bike fit, ate a little lunch, and even took a 30 min nap.  Once I woke up,  I was a little out of it, but was eager to try out my "new" bike.  After 10 minutes of constantly moving around my upper and lower body trying to get comfortable, I give up and just say, "well, I just have to let my body adjust to the correct position".  After 25 minutes, I get so frustrated, I quit.  My arms are totally fatigued, I can see my calves working like crazy (not supposed to happen), and I can't even get my butt in a comforatable spot!  After a 5 minute break to settle down and relax, I convince myself to get back on the bike and finish my hour ride.  I make it 45 before I had enough.  I have never actually cursed while riding the trainer before.  So, the point of my story - anyone want a 2008 Specialized Transition?  At this point, you can have it. 

This is so frustrating.  I am taking time off from my running to let my achilles stop hurting, my swim yesterday was terrible, and now I hate my bike.  Looks like it might be back to hockey.

Seriously, is it supposed to feel completely foreign after a fit?


give the guy a call and explain what you're explaining here.   find out what he thinks. 
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Jeepguy2358 - 2010-02-01 2:30 PM
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Jeepguy2358 - 2010-02-01 4:58 PM Ok, I need some help here.  I just got off the most grueling and frustrating trainer ride ever.  I got home from my bike fit, ate a little lunch, and even took a 30 min nap.  Once I woke up,  I was a little out of it, but was eager to try out my "new" bike.  After 10 minutes of constantly moving around my upper and lower body trying to get comfortable, I give up and just say, "well, I just have to let my body adjust to the correct position".  After 25 minutes, I get so frustrated, I quit.  My arms are totally fatigued, I can see my calves working like crazy (not supposed to happen), and I can't even get my butt in a comforatable spot!  After a 5 minute break to settle down and relax, I convince myself to get back on the bike and finish my hour ride.  I make it 45 before I had enough.  I have never actually cursed while riding the trainer before.  So, the point of my story - anyone want a 2008 Specialized Transition?  At this point, you can have it. 

This is so frustrating.  I am taking time off from my running to let my achilles stop hurting, my swim yesterday was terrible, and now I hate my bike.  Looks like it might be back to hockey.

Seriously, is it supposed to feel completely foreign after a fit?


Did he mess with your cleats at all?

From what I remember you weren't that bad before so the muscle groups you were using shouldn't have changed, meaning if you were really bad before a good fit could change which muscles were engaged at a certain time.

I would contact the fitter and see if he can make some adjustments.

But give it another ride or two on the trainer first, maybe today was just a bad day.


No, he did not mess with the cleats.  He said they were in a pretty good position.  He raised my seat about 1-2 mm to get a little more extenstion, moved my saddle back to help get the hunch out of my back and shortened my aerobars to get me a little more compact.  We spent a good 1.5 hours covering all areas.  He classified me (obviously by his own judgement) as moderate aggressive when it comes to aero.

One thing I forgot to mention was that I wore my new bike shorts (for the second time).  The padding is considerably thicker than my tri shorts that I was fitted in.  I am going to try it again tomorrow and see what happens.  Otherwise, I might be doing IMLOO on my Gary Fisher mountain bike.


Deep breath, Chris...
I am certainly no expert, but I have had 4 fittings by the same fitter.  One, for my road bike when I first got it, second on same bike when we added aerobars, third, as my flexibility increased on the roadie, we went a little more aggressive.  4th, on my new TT bike. 

While I am comfortable on my new bike, it took a few rides to get used to...and we both want me in a more aggressive position eventually, but my guy wants to slowly build towards a more aggressive/aero position.  He wants me to have better flexibility and core strength before we get too crazy.  We used the retul system and by moving my saddle up just a tiny bit, my form totally fell apart and my efficiency dropped a ton.  I couldn't feel it at the shop but the computer really showed it. 

I guess my point is that a very small tweak in saddle height or aerobar positioning can make a huge difference in comfort/efficiency and if you lose a little bit of aero at the beginning, it's more important to be able to sustain the position.  I am supposed to go back after 500 miles and I think that is coming up, so we'll see what he has to say.  I haven't been doing my core stuff religiously, so I might just be stuck in my current position...which is fine with me for now.

Don't despair!  Good luck
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