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  2013-06-19 10:53 AM in reply to: TankBoy |
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| 2013-06-19 10:55 AM in reply to: Fred D |
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| 2013-06-19 11:19 AM in reply to: Fred D |
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| 2013-06-19 11:21 AM in reply to: Fred D |
Expert 1416   San Luis Obispo, CA | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Fred, as for the back, lumbar support and take frequent rest stops and stretch. Also, when you're driving, do abdominal contraction exercises. It sounds weird, but having gone through L5-S1 herniation and then lamenectomy surgery, it worked for me. And a favor for all the MT racers, can you all please post your race numbers so I can punch them into my IronTrac app. I need to keep an eye on the USA vs "C eh N eh D eh" battle. |
| 2013-06-19 11:59 AM in reply to: TankBoy |
Elite 7783    PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Ok, I submitted mine too with an overall order and some generalities about the individual legs. |
| 2013-06-19 12:41 PM in reply to: TankBoy |
| Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Felicia - that bit about your husband is awesome! He should know that is a nice little car though - there is a fairly funny Top Gear episode where James May drove the Evoque across Death Valley to pick up Cher. As for your bike it is awesome, and even
Excellent looking bike! And yeah, that Top Gear episode is quite good, he liked the car even though the interior was "designed" by Posh Spice |
And, I'd put "Cher" in quotes 
| 2013-06-19 12:45 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
| Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by ChrisM I really need to figure out this pacing thing. Had a 2 hour run yesterday, negative split. Ran a downhill to flat course (last two miles uphill). THought I was going a comfortable pace, but HR was a little high, on the way out. Coming back, knew I could not negative split the uphill so concentrated on neg splitting miles 8-12, which I did. that last two miles were hard, but my 13.1 time would have been a HM PR. When they say the beginning of a long paced workout should be really easy, they mean really stupid easy. Was it supposed to be negative split? And by how much? I usually don't worry about it too much and just run at *about* the right effort most of the time. Some could be over, some could be under. I'm only disappointed when I actually design it to be a negative split and don't get it. Yeah, it was a designed NS. Only by 30 seconds or so, and I very nearly hit it. But I went out too fast (but it didn't feel too fast, it felt comfortable), and on the way back realized I was getting deeper into the hole, and knew the last 2 miles up hill to home would destroy any NS possibility. I am actually quite pleased with miles 8-12 as I held a solid 8:25 pace for 5 miles (that's fast for me). So, add the uphill after that effort, and it was all an increased effort on the return. |
| 2013-06-19 12:57 PM in reply to: blbriley |
| Veteran 1677 Houston, Texas | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by blbrileyAnd a favor for all the MT racers, can you all please post your race numbers so I can punch them into my IronTrac app. I need to keep an eye on the USA vs "C eh N eh D eh" battle. Agreed -- having bib numbers makes it way easier for us to stalk you! While I'm guessing there probably aren't too many with the name "Arend" racing, some of you might be harder to pick out! Hope your back treats you well on the long drive over, Fred. Best wishes to all of you....I'm predicting some smoking fast times! |
| 2013-06-19 12:59 PM in reply to: marcag |
| Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by brigby1 Yes, but rumor is they are no longer in Pennsylvainia. They have rented a cabin in northern quebec, and are supposed to be chopping wood and running in the snow. Fred was rumored to not be willing to chop wood with a bad back and James didn't want to run in the snow. Arend on the other hand was running on the treadmill and taking his vitamins Marc was getting a massage from Brigitte Nielsen. Sorry Arend, but Rocky IV may work out very well. With the Russian coming out very strong (the swim), but ending up losing later on! How close are the US pair to Philly too? I see they're already in Pennsylvania. LMFAO... I also heard Arend was doing some power lifting...and was working so hard...even the weights were sweating.
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| 2013-06-19 1:02 PM in reply to: TankBoy |
| Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by TankBoy Ok group - I have real-life predictions from both James and Marc (as well as my own) I gotta at least get one from both Fred and Arend. I'll take 'em from anybody else in the group that wants to play as well. And hopefully without giving anything away, I can say that Marc is just as good of a sandbagger as James.... I know it's the wrong movie...but my prediction is pretty simple.
PAIN!!! |
| 2013-06-19 1:14 PM in reply to: Fred D |
| Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Fred, I find if I sit on something while on a long drive it makes a big difference for my back. I usually just fold up a towel - enough to bring me up a few inches. |
| 2013-06-19 1:16 PM in reply to: 0 |
| Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN I am bib number 2035 ETA: I am going to be carrying my GTU-10 and am going to see if I can make the track viewable publicly - for those of you that have nothing better to do on a Sunday morning. Edited by axteraa 2013-06-19 1:19 PM |
| 2013-06-19 3:49 PM in reply to: TankBoy |
| Veteran 2842 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by TankBoy Honestly when you guys said "Rocky" and "Canadian" I actually thought more like this:
versus this:
Of course I first thought that James and Fred were Rocky and Bulwinkle, and Marc and Arend were Boris and Natasha (we all know which is which of course) but then I just read that Boris and Natasha were secret agents from Potsylvania - isn't that where Fred and James actually live in real life? Now I am completely confused as to who is who and who I am pulling for even.... Genius. Pure genius... And Jason, you beat me to the "My prediction, PAIN!" One of my go-to's... I'd love to get in on the betting here, but as a relative noob to the thread, I can't even hazard a guess. There enough sandbags here to build a levy! I'll predict a tie. Matt |
| 2013-06-19 3:52 PM in reply to: TSimone |
| Pro 4482 NJ | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by TSimone Fred - Some ideas. -Get some lower back support, even if your car has lumbar control. Maybe roll up a towel and duct tape it and place it in the small of your back. -Use a neck roll. -More frequent stops and walk around and stretch some. (May not be feasible if you can't leave sooner) -A pad for your seat, I found one at a drug store. -Stash a gel ice pack in a cooler and break it out if needed. -Preventative use of ibuprofen. -Take a foam roller and roll it out once you get settled in the hotel. -Take your wife up on that offer. The driving position can really mess things up for long periods. Fred, all of the above. I use the support/cushions linked below. I dealt with L4/L5 issues while commuting 600miles/week for 2 years. They helped. |
| 2013-06-19 4:30 PM in reply to: blbriley |
| Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by blbriley Fred, as for the back, lumbar support and take frequent rest stops and stretch. Also, when you're driving, do abdominal contraction exercises. It sounds weird, but having gone through L5-S1 herniation and then lamenectomy surgery, it worked for me. And a favor for all the MT racers, can you all please post your race numbers so I can punch them into my IronTrac app. I need to keep an eye on the USA vs "C eh N eh D eh" battle. Ok bib # Team USA 863 - Fred D (Fred) 471 - BrotherTri (James) Team CN 2035 - axteraa (Arend) 446 - marcag (Marc) |
| 2013-06-19 5:39 PM in reply to: axteraa |
| Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by axteraa I am bib number 2035 ETA: I am going to be carrying my GTU-10 and am going to see if I can make the track viewable publicly - for those of you that have nothing better to do on a Sunday morning. All of you should set a goal to finish before I wake up...hahaha. I'll probably be up around 11am EST (5am Hawai time), so I'll catch the "4th quarter." so to speak. |
| 2013-06-19 6:14 PM in reply to: BrotherTri |
| Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by BrotherTri Ok bib # Team USA 863 - Fred D (Fred) 471 - BrotherTri (James) Team CN 2035 - axteraa (Arend) 446 - marcag (Marc) James, are you racing with a power meter ? In all seriousness it would be cool to see the aero differences we have. I could be racing at 30 watts higher than Arend and be slower just based on setup. This AM I was doing a workout and did some helmet testing and found 10 watts between 2 helmets. These things add up. |
| 2013-06-19 6:40 PM in reply to: marcag |
| Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by marcag James, are you racing with a power meter ? In all seriousness it would be cool to see the aero differences we have. I could be racing at 30 watts higher than Arend and be slower just based on setup. This AM I was doing a workout and did some helmet testing and found 10 watts between 2 helmets. These things add up. Sorry no power meter. Strictly RPE. My bike is a Felt B12, Zipp 808 F/R. I may put disk cover on and I definitely use a aero helmet. Judging by that 4hr ride you did the other day. I would say you are very strong on the bike. I might need to update my race predictions with Rusty. |
| 2013-06-19 7:11 PM in reply to: BrotherTri |
| Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by BrotherTri Originally posted by marcag James, are you racing with a power meter ? In all seriousness it would be cool to see the aero differences we have. I could be racing at 30 watts higher than Arend and be slower just based on setup. This AM I was doing a workout and did some helmet testing and found 10 watts between 2 helmets. These things add up. Sorry no power meter. Strictly RPE. My bike is a Felt B12, Zipp 808 F/R. I may put disk cover on and I definitely use a aero helmet. Judging by that 4hr ride you did the other day. I would say you are very strong on the bike. I might need to update my race predictions with Rusty. That was an abnormally good ride :-) I was actually further north than Tremblant. Top tip of the ride is an indian reserve. You get strange looks on the tri bike. I need to define Strava segments where I ride. Nobody would take them from me, because nobody rides up there :-) |
| 2013-06-19 7:41 PM in reply to: marcag |
| Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by marcag This AM I was doing a workout and did some helmet testing and found 10 watts between 2 helmets. These things add up. Now you've got my interest... What two helmets and what reasons do you think made one helmet faster? I know the common wisdom thrown out there is how the tail fits against your back is most important, but it seems there are a lot more factors that are coming to light these days. If it was a Lazer or LG helmet...it must be the dimples. LOL. |
| 2013-06-19 8:05 PM in reply to: Jason N |
| Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by Jason N Originally posted by marcag This AM I was doing a workout and did some helmet testing and found 10 watts between 2 helmets. These things add up. Now you've got my interest... What two helmets and what reasons do you think made one helmet faster? I know the common wisdom thrown out there is how the tail fits against your back is most important, but it seems there are a lot more factors that are coming to light these days. If it was a Lazer or LG helmet...it must be the dimples. LOL. It was a Giro Advantage (faster) which I own and a Giro Air Attack which I am trying because it's much cooler (for vegas). I was surprised because with my head position the tail would point up but it was still faster. It was very consistent For sure my frontal aera is larger with the Advantage, but it's still faster. Proper turtling would probably make it even faster but that goes out the window pretty quickly during the HIM bike I will continue to test. I have 4 weeks before I need to return it but will probably keep it. |
| 2013-06-19 8:37 PM in reply to: marcag |
| Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Ahhh...I guess i'm not so surprised that your advantage tested faster given that's what Giro claims to begin with. I thought you were comparing two similar aero helmets (with tails) and that one worked better for you (for whatever reason). With regards to a cooler helmet, how much do you think it helps? Would a hotter head rob you of 10 watts? Are you considering the attack because Vegas may not have wind and there are a lot of climbs? I know even in training with a road helmet, my head gets the hottest when there's no wind and I'm climbing. |
| 2013-06-19 10:38 PM in reply to: 0 |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by Jason N Ahhh...I guess i'm not so surprised that your advantage tested faster given that's what Giro claims to begin with. I thought you were comparing two similar aero helmets (with tails) and that one worked better for you (for whatever reason). With regards to a cooler helmet, how much do you think it helps? Would a hotter head rob you of 10 watts? Are you considering the attack because Vegas may not have wind and there are a lot of climbs? I know even in training with a road helmet, my head gets the hottest when there's no wind and I'm climbing. I think that "how much" part tends to get overlooked. And how much less heat would one produce in the first place by simply riding a touch easier in the faster helmet? Vegas has a bunch of hills, but I didn't think they were really that big. More of a total volume by frequency thing. And no shade. Anywhere. Ever. Except crossing the road in the tunnels early on. I think it might be worth more to put time into managing effort on the frequency of terrain changes and also working on the heat. Both in acclimatization and understand how one will react in it over a longer period of time. ETA: Just looked at the helmets. There is really a big difference in cooling between the two? The Attack doesn't really have much for vents, but doesn't have ear flaps. What has you set on Giro helmets then? Edited by brigby1 2013-06-19 10:40 PM |
| 2013-06-19 10:44 PM in reply to: axteraa |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Arend, previously you wondered how to do longer trainer rides. Sufferfest vids and sweet spot training works well. Today was ~2:45 with Wretched, Long Scream, Wretched, Long Scream. Other vids can be mixed in as well. And yes, this is a bit late for Tremblent training.  |
| 2013-06-20 2:45 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
| Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by brigby1 Arend, previously you wondered how to do longer trainer rides. Sufferfest vids and sweet spot training works well. Today was ~2:45 with Wretched, Long Scream, Wretched, Long Scream. Other vids can be mixed in as well. And yes, this is a bit late for Tremblent training. I'm going to bust those out this morning for some panic training before I pack up the car! |
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