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SEADOCHA - 2012-07-16 11:39 AM I think last year it was high 70's. It got hot mid day just volunteering! I need to quit looking at the weather report because each time it raises by 2 degrees.ughhh

Last year it was a lot warmer than high 70's! Lake placid had been in a heat wave and it had been reaching 90's consistantly up to race day and on race day I beleive it had hit 90 again if not high 80's.

 

I don't know if this helps but when TJ Tollakson got off the bike, his computer registered 73 ish degrees. As a spectator last year, I do remember it being quite warm in the sun but coolerish in the shade while folks were on the run.



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ye - i`m pretty sure that last year was into the 80s - just looking for a benchmark really.   It was certainly 90oF when we signed up on Fri.  Sat was hot too (high 80s) but is eased off on Sunday a bit.

It was so hot, i forgot my bike helmet - oops...   Banked that 20min additional T1 this year.

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Hi all. Best of luck to everyone racing this weekend. That will be me next year!

I'll be there as a volunteer (first and last shifts!) and biking the course as much as possible. I'll be bringing my road bike, so what cassette would people recommend for group rides? Think it's worth bringing the carbon wheels, or is that too much as a volunteer?

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We can't control the weather so try not to obsess. Be aware of it as it will be a factor in you fluid intake, ect but don't fret over it. You have trained in all kinds of conditions over the past months and gotten through it. You will do it again on Sunday. I raced 08 in the monsoon and in 10 in perfect weather. I enjoyed both races immensely. Would I prefer the 75 degree low humidity day..of course...but we will all succeed no matter what the challenge!
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I have a question, since this is my first IM distance I'm not sure how to handle my Garmin 305.  I really only use it on the run, so I can get my run pace dialed in.  The problem is that the 305 has a battery life of about 8 hours,  So Do I put the watch in my bike bag and then put it on while I'm on the bike,  then turn it on as I'm getting close to the run portion,  or do I put it in my run back and turn it on while I'm running.  The only downside to that is that I'm not confident it will find satellites fast enough and I'll be running not knowing what pace I'm really running at.   
2012-07-16 2:28 PM
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Jason

I'm sure others will chime in, but I'd turn it on when you finish the bike and get your run bag. IM is all about the run pace and trying to not slow down. Yes, it'll take time for the satellites to lock onto it, but you can use that first mile to your advantage-it's downhill and you want to be going much slower than you will want to, don't even worry about what your pace is-keep it slow.

Whatever my run pace is that first mile,  I'll personally want to be slower. EN videos talk about your IM marathon pace being equal to your average usual long run pace. The goal for the first 5 miles of the run at LP should be that+30secs. So if you are running 9:30 miles on average for your LR in training (LR=16+ miles), then your pace should be 10 min miles. +30 seconds is 'trying to keep yourself slow' kind of slow.

SUPER-easy.

The race doesn't start until mile 18 of the run, according to them. My plan is to make it to mile 20 before I even consider going faster than 'easy' pace, because everything is going to get awfully hard on that second run loop. And I need enough energy to find 'roadkill'.

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keepitup - 2012-07-16 9:03 AM

Question:  Is it mandatory to have reflective stuff on our run gear and if so what do you do?  Tape? Does it stay on? 

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It is not mandatory. I have never been pulled over by the reflective tape police and given a hard time. Seriously, it is suggested for safety as there are a couple of dark stretches out of River Road. I finish in the dark so I know these things. Tape would work and it should stay on. You likely have some reflective spots on your running shoes and/or tri outfit as well. Most of the course is pretty well lit, even after 9 p.m.
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TeamAndyBU - 2012-07-16 11:46 AM

SEADOCHA - 2012-07-16 11:39 AM I think last year it was high 70's. It got hot mid day just volunteering! I need to quit looking at the weather report because each time it raises by 2 degrees.ughhh

Last year it was a lot warmer than high 70's! Lake placid had been in a heat wave and it had been reaching 90's consistantly up to race day and on race day I beleive it had hit 90 again if not high 80's.



No. It was very hot leading up to Friday or so and then the heat wave broke. It did not hit 90 on race day. It was warm though. I would believe 78 - 82.
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dtoce - 2012-07-16 3:28 PM

Jason

I'm sure others will chime in, but I'd turn it on when you finish the bike and get your run bag. IM is all about the run pace and trying to not slow down. Yes, it'll take time for the satellites to lock onto it, but you can use that first mile to your advantage-it's downhill and you want to be going much slower than you will want to, don't even worry about what your pace is-keep it slow.

Whatever my run pace is that first mile,  I'll personally want to be slower. EN videos talk about your IM marathon pace being equal to your average usual long run pace. The goal for the first 5 miles of the run at LP should be that+30secs. So if you are running 9:30 miles on average for your LR in training (LR=16+ miles), then your pace should be 10 min miles. +30 seconds is 'trying to keep yourself slow' kind of slow.

SUPER-easy.

The race doesn't start until mile 18 of the run, according to them. My plan is to make it to mile 20 before I even consider going faster than 'easy' pace, because everything is going to get awfully hard on that second run loop. And I need enough energy to find 'roadkill'.

GL

 

Yeah I agree with everything you said,  my problem has been that ever since I got the Tri bike (March of this year), my legs feel so good off the bike that when I run I think I'm running slow but when I look down at my garmin I see I'm doing 7 min/miles.  I know there is no way on this planet I can keep that pace,  (I'm shooting for around 10 min/miles).  I constantly watch the garmin when I first get off the bike to force myself to go slower.  Most times the garmin picks up pretty quick but other times I've seen it take 5-10 minutes.  At that rate I'll be done with my first mile already,  and then I'll be dying at at mile 7.  

2012-07-16 2:57 PM
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I think what I did last year for the garmin was to put it on in T1 but only turn it on in the last 4 miles or so of the bike, to get a signal.  From what I recall this worked, but not well enough to help me have a solid run hahahaha.  I plan to do the same thing again this year. 

 

As for the heat, it was hot but as other said, the temp broke race day.  It was like 115 in NYC though, from what I recall friends saying.  So, MAYBE we can use that as an indicator, it'll be a lot cooler in NYC this year, so maybe Placid will be cooler than last year?  

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mendeldave - 2012-07-16 3:57 PM

I think what I did last year for the garmin was to put it on in T1 but only turn it on in the last 4 miles or so of the bike, to get a signal.  From what I recall this worked, but not well enough to help me have a solid run hahahaha.  I plan to do the same thing again this year. 

 

 

Ahhh so another question,  do you put it in your bag and drop it off Saturday.  Or do you wait for Sunday and throw the watch in there.  Wasn't sure how to handle the watch being in the bag overnight.  



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I'll probably just drop the garmin in my bag, race morning.  You do have access to everything (bike, bags, etc) pre-race. 

 

Also, last year I go to my bike in the morning and the night time rain or humidity or whatever, did a number on the sticky stuff that held the velcro on my aero bottle to my handlebars.  It slipped right off.  Luckily I had some electrical tape on me and was able to fix it.  I guess a small plastic bag over the handle bars will be in the plans for me this year. 

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JMoney - 2012-07-16 2:55 PM

Yeah I agree with everything you said,  my problem has been that ever since I got the Tri bike (March of this year), my legs feel so good off the bike that when I run I think I'm running slow but when I look down at my garmin I see I'm doing 7 min/miles.  I know there is no way on this planet I can keep that pace,  (I'm shooting for around 10 min/miles).  I constantly watch the garmin when I first get off the bike to force myself to go slower.  Most times the garmin picks up pretty quick but other times I've seen it take 5-10 minutes.  At that rate I'll be done with my first mile already,  and then I'll be dying at at mile 7.  

use your HR or breathing rate to keep it slow

I've been practicing with my brick runs to try to keep that first mile easier than the rest and always try to make the last mile the fastest, or close to it...(but that was then and this is now.)

You'll be fine as long as you concentrate on making it super-easy. You cannot go too slow but you can go too fast in the first several miles of the run, IMO.

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I think all things considered, especially the fact that it's upstate NY, there's no point worrying too much about the weather now because it's bound to change at least a few more times before the race.  

At this point I hope I'll be out there suffering through a potentially warm marathon!  According to my latest doctors appointment...absolutely nothing has changed.  Kinda bummed, but at this point am doing my best to rest it the best I can and will definitely start the race.  I figured my options are do what I can to heal before LP, attempt to finish and call that a season, or take time off now and hope I'm healed for Vegas.  Since there's not guarantee it would be any more healed for Vegas, and the fact that I don't want to go into that race after losing tons of fitness trying to heal, I'm going to attempt Lake Placid.  If I have to pack my boot and walk the marathon, then so be it...just kinda worried about how sweaty that would get if its warm out!  So I guess I'll be the one that shows up to the swim on Friday morning with a giant boot on my leg.  

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I like looking at the weather - because by now, race strategy, watch and what i`m wearing are all picked out.  Weather is really the only o/s item to occupy my mind.  Oh - and the fact i need to get some more swimming in - but that is always the case.

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oh - it just dropped a degree to 83oF

Here we go....



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And as a side note, the lead up days have lows in the 40s which should make for a wetsuit legal swim.
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I like looking at the weather - because by now, race strategy, watch and what i`m wearing are all picked out.  Weather is really the only o/s item to occupy my mind.  Oh - and the fact i need to get some more swimming in - but that is always the case.

 

Nah, I don't think you need anymore swimming in! You had a lot of volume for swimming! t hehe.

I'm off to get a hair cut. I have very thick hair and have let it go for a long time. I'm getting it cut short and thinned out. Free speed baby! When they cut my hair, it's like there is a dead cat on the floor. This should be good for one more mph!Laughing

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I didn't know what to do today... I cleaned my bike

I'm sure she will be very grateful for that on Sunday...

 

What can I do now... ???

Looking at the weather forecast - check

Packing - check

Watching YouTube videos about last year - check

... 6 days... 6

2012-07-16 7:43 PM
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Jason

I'm sure others will chime in, but I'd turn it on when you finish the bike and get your run bag. IM is all about the run pace and trying to not slow down. Yes, it'll take time for the satellites to lock onto it, but you can use that first mile to your advantage-it's downhill and you want to be going much slower than you will want to, don't even worry about what your pace is-keep it slow.

Whatever my run pace is that first mile,  I'll personally want to be slower. EN videos talk about your IM marathon pace being equal to your average usual long run pace. The goal for the first 5 miles of the run at LP should be that+30secs. So if you are running 9:30 miles on average for your LR in training (LR=16+ miles), then your pace should be 10 min miles. +30 seconds is 'trying to keep yourself slow' kind of slow.

SUPER-easy.

The race doesn't start until mile 18 of the run, according to them. My plan is to make it to mile 20 before I even consider going faster than 'easy' pace, because everything is going to get awfully hard on that second run loop. And I need enough energy to find 'roadkill'.

GL

 

Yeah I agree with everything you said,  my problem has been that ever since I got the Tri bike (March of this year), my legs feel so good off the bike that when I run I think I'm running slow but when I look down at my garmin I see I'm doing 7 min/miles.  I know there is no way on this planet I can keep that pace,  (I'm shooting for around 10 min/miles).  I constantly watch the garmin when I first get off the bike to force myself to go slower.  Most times the garmin picks up pretty quick but other times I've seen it take 5-10 minutes.  At that rate I'll be done with my first mile already,  and then I'll be dying at at mile 7.  

The battery life will last the bike and half the run. And that's all you'll need. You won't need or want to see your pace the back-end of the marathon
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I'm in Lake Placid. Nice and quiet right now.


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Dream Chaser - 2012-07-16 9:05 PMI'm in Lake Placid. Nice and quiet right now.
Be there tomorrow Bobby. Can't believe it's here. What a journey including the Quassy pre ride and race. It was freezing cold when we started this seven months ago. So many winter rides in the dark with blinking lights and cold gear. Best wishes for everyone. Travel safely. Can't wait to meet everyone Friday morning. Want to see cornick and chat. This is the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. Let's get it DONE!

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elrasc06 - 2012-07-16 4:02 PM

I think all things considered, especially the fact that it's upstate NY, there's no point worrying too much about the weather now because it's bound to change at least a few more times before the race.  

At this point I hope I'll be out there suffering through a potentially warm marathon!  According to my latest doctors appointment...absolutely nothing has changed.  Kinda bummed, but at this point am doing my best to rest it the best I can and will definitely start the race.  I figured my options are do what I can to heal before LP, attempt to finish and call that a season, or take time off now and hope I'm healed for Vegas.  Since there's not guarantee it would be any more healed for Vegas, and the fact that I don't want to go into that race after losing tons of fitness trying to heal, I'm going to attempt Lake Placid.  If I have to pack my boot and walk the marathon, then so be it...just kinda worried about how sweaty that would get if its warm out!  So I guess I'll be the one that shows up to the swim on Friday morning with a giant boot on my leg.  

 

What's your race #? I'm  headed for a very long sunday and expect to have a long marathon. I will keep my eyes open for you. If you need comic relief hang with me and we can limp along together. I'm 2067.

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Dream Chaser - 2012-07-16 7:43 PM
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Jason

I'm sure others will chime in, but I'd turn it on when you finish the bike and get your run bag. IM is all about the run pace and trying to not slow down. Yes, it'll take time for the satellites to lock onto it, but you can use that first mile to your advantage-it's downhill and you want to be going much slower than you will want to, don't even worry about what your pace is-keep it slow.

Whatever my run pace is that first mile,  I'll personally want to be slower. EN videos talk about your IM marathon pace being equal to your average usual long run pace. The goal for the first 5 miles of the run at LP should be that+30secs. So if you are running 9:30 miles on average for your LR in training (LR=16+ miles), then your pace should be 10 min miles. +30 seconds is 'trying to keep yourself slow' kind of slow.

SUPER-easy.

The race doesn't start until mile 18 of the run, according to them. My plan is to make it to mile 20 before I even consider going faster than 'easy' pace, because everything is going to get awfully hard on that second run loop. And I need enough energy to find 'roadkill'.

GL

 

Yeah I agree with everything you said,  my problem has been that ever since I got the Tri bike (March of this year), my legs feel so good off the bike that when I run I think I'm running slow but when I look down at my garmin I see I'm doing 7 min/miles.  I know there is no way on this planet I can keep that pace,  (I'm shooting for around 10 min/miles).  I constantly watch the garmin when I first get off the bike to force myself to go slower.  Most times the garmin picks up pretty quick but other times I've seen it take 5-10 minutes.  At that rate I'll be done with my first mile already,  and then I'll be dying at at mile 7.  

The battery life will last the bike and half the run. And that's all you'll need. You won't need or want to see your pace the back-end of the marathon
Who's down for a 10:45min pace!!!?? Meet at 13.1miles at 6pm Ish.
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We're another day closer.  Just five and counting.  I don't know about anyone else but I'm just trying to keep my stomach in check at this point.  
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