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2012-12-27 8:17 PM
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Richardsdrr - 2012-12-28 1:48 AM Tried an hour and half on the turbo yesterday, managed about 40 min before I had to get off. I've had a slitting migraine since Christmas night. I thought my head was about to explode when I was on the turbo, so much so that I was physically sick. I have spent most of my time sleeping since, but still have the headache. Taking paracetamol but to no avail. I was supposed to go on an hour run today, but don't think I can manage it. I have to take the dog out shortly, perhaps I will get into my running gear just in case I feel like plodding. My wife and I are going away for a couple of days tomorrow to go to an old army friends wedding. So I made sure I booked into a hotel with a nice pool set up. So I should get some wet time over the next couple of days.

Ok I know I am a bit behind, lets blame it on the time difference.

Richard a great trick, prescribed by a doctor, for Migraines is a can of Coke and 2 asprin. I must addmit that when I heard it I thought it was the biggest load of BS but it actually works (something about the chemicals in the Coke combining with the asprin).

Even better is if you are able to combine it with an ice back to the back of the neck and find the spot where your top and bottom jaws join and press hard turning in little circles. This last bit will hurt like a b!tch and may even make you cry but it helps a lot. Combining all of these things together i can generally get rid of my migraines in about 20-30 minutes, someimes quicker if I catch them early. If I dont do them they can last for days.

No training for me today designated rest day which I'm feeling a bit antsy about but I understand that I need to do them otherwise I get too worn out later.

Muskrat how d you do the rest day thing with your 30 runs in 30 days, that has turned into over 100 days for some people on that thread?



2012-12-27 8:25 PM
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mn_av8or - 2012-12-28 6:13 AM

Yanti, I saw this when I was in Lovina and some guy told us that drugs in Indonesia was bad juju.  As in like death penalty, is that true?

I wish some stupid Australian's would learn this. Instead they try to smuggle drugs and get caught and then expect our Government to help them. There is no way that you coud live in Australia and not know that the penalty for smuggling drugs in Bali is death but they still try to do it, its just dumb. (sorry felt the need to rant)

2012-12-27 9:35 PM
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JJ- - 2012-12-27 10:52 AM

What do y'all watch or do to pass the time on the trainer? It gets so boring. I watched the 2011 Ironman World Championship DVD this morning but I can only watch it so many times. Need something else

Junky action movies where the dialogue doesn't matter.  Food Network.  Home shows.  Spinervals.

2012-12-27 9:36 PM
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StaceyK - 2012-12-27 8:17 AM

I guess both my goal and concern relate mainly to the swim. I can swim well in the pool, no issues apart from a lack of speed but when I swim in OW I have an inability to put my face in the water.

So my thoughts for the race are that I can use it to work on that but my concerns are that the race is in a fresh water (man made) lake and I have been told that the water is really manky and I am also thinking that it might make my face in the water problem worse rather than better.

OK, so now we have something to work on, namely the face in the water issue. Can you get to the race site, primarily in the water, between now and then? It looks like you know what you need to work on and what you need to learn. IMO, you should get some OWS time in the next few weeks and work on the face in the water part. It is a bit different from the pool, but it is where most races occur, so if you can familiarize yourself, you'll be better off.

That's my 2 cents, but I'll let the swimmers in the group give you real advice

And take a look at the bike and run courses too.  It makes a difference if you know the lay of the land.

2012-12-27 9:45 PM
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StaceyK - 2012-12-27 8:25 PM
mn_av8or - 2012-12-28 6:13 AM

Yanti, I saw this when I was in Lovina and some guy told us that drugs in Indonesia was bad juju.  As in like death penalty, is that true?

I wish some stupid Australian's would learn this. Instead they try to smuggle drugs and get caught and then expect our Government to help them. There is no way that you coud live in Australia and not know that the penalty for smuggling drugs in Bali is death but they still try to do it, its just dumb. (sorry felt the need to rant)

Yeah I swear that Bali was more like Australia than Australia with all the Aussies, at least down by the beach.

2012-12-27 9:53 PM
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Hahaha excellent!

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mn_av8or - 2012-12-27 4:41 PM One of my favorite things about Asia is the attempts at English on signs.  Always entertaining, I will see if I can scrounge up a few of my photos.  Going from Washington State to Indonesia might be a bit of a drug culture shock haha.

Ehhhh I think I know what I'm getting myself into. I deal with quite a few different cultures at work on a daily basis. Also I have traveled a fair amount. Here is a shirt I saw in Japan, I believe it to be very relevant to our conversation 

On a steep path in China.  Some odd store in Xi'an.  A label on cosmetics.  At the border crossing between China and Vietnam.



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2012-12-27 10:01 PM
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jbwills - 2012-12-27 7:16 PMSo, I got off my butt this morning did 40mjn on the trainer. Went to the dentist and decided it was a great day to go enjoy the outdoors. Decided to go do some cross-country skiing. I am still learning so it was a blast. I went down a new trail I want to go get some pictures of. 1.5hrs after starting I was back at my start point, 4.92 miles. It was also warm on the mountain 10F. I still have Insanity to do tonight but was great to get outside and enjoy nature while the sun was up.

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2012-12-27 10:02 PM
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mn_av8or - 2012-12-27 9:53 PM

Hahaha excellent!

Asalzwed - 2012-12-27 6:19 PM

mn_av8or - 2012-12-27 4:41 PM One of my favorite things about Asia is the attempts at English on signs.  Always entertaining, I will see if I can scrounge up a few of my photos.  Going from Washington State to Indonesia might be a bit of a drug culture shock haha.

Ehhhh I think I know what I'm getting myself into. I deal with quite a few different cultures at work on a daily basis. Also I have traveled a fair amount. Here is a shirt I saw in Japan, I believe it to be very relevant to our conversation 

On a steep path in China.  Some odd store in Xi'an.  A label on cosmetics.  At the border crossing between China and Vietnam.

Hahahahaha!! Love it
2012-12-27 10:12 PM
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Tonight I started working on our Manatee Roster and I noticed that not everyone is is using the training log.  It would be super helpful it you would log your training for a few reasons.  Reason #1 is probably encouragement.  As you may have noticed, we Manatees talk a lot and part of that is checking in on each other a lot.  No one wants to check in to see a blank wall!  Also, if you have questions, other Manatees may want to check your logs to help answer it.  

2012-12-27 10:51 PM
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Ok, I have a confession. I haven't dragged my feet onto the dreadmill in a month. I hate it. I detest having someone pounding along beside me...hearing their feet and breathing...and NOT GOING ANYWHERE! On top of it, I can't seem to find a comfortable pace and pushing buttons to adjust speed just irritates me. Yell So I've fallen back on the elliptical where at least my body doesn't expect forward progress and there's no "running" sound.

Whew! There, I've said it. Now I need to do something about it.

2012-12-27 11:06 PM
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4agoodlife - 2012-12-27 10:51 PM

Ok, I have a confession. I haven't dragged my feet onto the dreadmill in a month. I hate it. I detest having someone pounding along beside me...hearing their feet and breathing...and NOT GOING ANYWHERE! On top of it, I can't seem to find a comfortable pace and pushing buttons to adjust speed just irritates me. Yell So I've fallen back on the elliptical where at least my body doesn't expect forward progress and there's no "running" sound.

Whew! There, I've said it. Now I need to do something about it.

Get outside! ;-)


2012-12-27 11:13 PM
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KansasMom - 2012-12-27 9:06 PM
4agoodlife - 2012-12-27 10:51 PM

Ok, I have a confession. I haven't dragged my feet onto the dreadmill in a month. I hate it. I detest having someone pounding along beside me...hearing their feet and breathing...and NOT GOING ANYWHERE! On top of it, I can't seem to find a comfortable pace and pushing buttons to adjust speed just irritates me. Yell So I've fallen back on the elliptical where at least my body doesn't expect forward progress and there's no "running" sound.

Whew! There, I've said it. Now I need to do something about it.

Get outside! ;-)

haha! I know. Finding a good pace with stroller and 5 y/o on bike has been frustrating in its own way. I have a couple ideas to run by the husband. Fingers crossed

 

2012-12-28 12:42 AM
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StaceyK - 2012-12-27 6:17 PM

Richardsdrr - 2012-12-28 1:48 AM Tried an hour and half on the turbo yesterday, managed about 40 min before I had to get off. I've had a slitting migraine since Christmas night. I thought my head was about to explode when I was on the turbo, so much so that I was physically sick. I have spent most of my time sleeping since, but still have the headache. Taking paracetamol but to no avail. I was supposed to go on an hour run today, but don't think I can manage it. I have to take the dog out shortly, perhaps I will get into my running gear just in case I feel like plodding. My wife and I are going away for a couple of days tomorrow to go to an old army friends wedding. So I made sure I booked into a hotel with a nice pool set up. So I should get some wet time over the next couple of days.

Ok I know I am a bit behind, lets blame it on the time difference.

Richard a great trick, prescribed by a doctor, for Migraines is a can of Coke and 2 asprin. I must addmit that when I heard it I thought it was the biggest load of BS but it actually works (something about the chemicals in the Coke combining with the asprin).

Even better is if you are able to combine it with an ice back to the back of the neck and find the spot where your top and bottom jaws join and press hard turning in little circles. This last bit will hurt like a b!tch and may even make you cry but it helps a lot. Combining all of these things together i can generally get rid of my migraines in about 20-30 minutes, someimes quicker if I catch them early. If I dont do them they can last for days.

No training for me today designated rest day which I'm feeling a bit antsy about but I understand that I need to do them otherwise I get too worn out later.

Muskrat how d you do the rest day thing with your 30 runs in 30 days, that has turned into over 100 days for some people on that thread?

Run often, mostly easy, sometimes hard.  Best advice I was ever given.  One of the runners in that thread is on day 380 or something like that.  He runs 35 miles sometimes...20 miles ..but lots of 5-10 miles in a week.  Insane amounts, but the biggest thing is that on a "rest" day, you run slower than normal.  It was recommend to go 1-2 minutes slower than your normal pace.  I have trouble slowing down that much, so I would run about :30 slower than normal.  You also only run the minimum miles on a "rest" day.  

I was truly shocked at how much I improved doing that challenge.  Another big key is to not bump up your mileage at the start.  If you are currently at 21 miles per week - you would run 3,2,3,3,3,5,2 for a total of 21.  You can then build off of that.  

Currently I am running 5 days per week, but I will sometimes add a 6th, and believe it or not, my day off is not after my LSD (which is up to 12 or 13 miles)... I usually run my 5 mile route the day after my LSD, but run it about :30 to 1:00 min slower than my LSD pace.  I find it amazing that I can recover by running. 

2012-12-28 12:48 AM
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I been offline a bit I'm in the UK finally got wifi set up now is there enough time to catch up. My first surprise is Muskrat a manatee that's awesome!!!!!Will try and catch up today. No training since Xmas day run and swim today get back on it.
2012-12-28 1:18 AM
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I've just been reminded why I prefer workouts in the morning or in the early afternoon.   Later workouts, like today, produce insomnia.        This leads to bad habits, such as eating after midnight and hanging out on computer websites with savory and possibly a few unsavory peeps....Foot in mouth
2012-12-28 2:45 AM
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So are you calling us unsavory ?

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2012-12-28 4:39 AM
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StaceyK - 2012-12-28 1:17 AM

Richardsdrr - 2012-12-28 1:48 AM Tried an hour and half on the turbo yesterday, managed about 40 min before I had to get off. I've had a slitting migraine since Christmas night. I thought my head was about to explode when I was on the turbo, so much so that I was physically sick. I have spent most of my time sleeping since, but still have the headache. Taking paracetamol but to no avail. I was supposed to go on an hour run today, but don't think I can manage it. I have to take the dog out shortly, perhaps I will get into my running gear just in case I feel like plodding. My wife and I are going away for a couple of days tomorrow to go to an old army friends wedding. So I made sure I booked into a hotel with a nice pool set up. So I should get some wet time over the next couple of days.

 

Ok I know I am a bit behind, lets blame it on the time difference.

Richard a great trick, prescribed by a doctor, for Migraines is a can of Coke and 2 asprin. I must addmit that when I heard it I thought it was the biggest load of BS but it actually works (something about the chemicals in the Coke combining with the asprin).

Even better is if you are able to combine it with an ice back to the back of the neck and find the spot where your top and bottom jaws join and press hard turning in little circles. This last bit will hurt like a b!tch and may even make you cry but it helps a lot. Combining all of these things together i can generally get rid of my migraines in about 20-30 minutes, someimes quicker if I catch them early. If I dont do them they can last for days.

No training for me today designated rest day which I'm feeling a bit antsy about but I understand that I need to do them otherwise I get too worn out later.

Muskrat how d you do the rest day thing with your 30 runs in 30 days, that has turned into over 100 days for some people on that thread?

 

Thanks Stacey. I will give the coke and Asprin a go, as paracetemol is not working. Woke up with same headache today day 3.



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2012-12-28 6:53 AM
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jmkizer - 2012-12-27 11:12 PM

Tonight I started working on our Manatee Roster and I noticed that not everyone is is using the training log.  It would be super helpful it you would log your training for a few reasons.  Reason #1 is probably encouragement.  As you may have noticed, we Manatees talk a lot and part of that is checking in on each other a lot.  No one wants to check in to see a blank wall!  Also, if you have questions, other Manatees may want to check your logs to help answer it.  

Janyne, I started a table in my log. A few old names still in it, but it is a start, if you want it. Sorry if we both worked on the same thing, but for me it was good practice.

2012-12-28 7:08 AM
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Muskrat37 - 2012-12-28 1:42 AM
StaceyK - 2012-12-27 6:17 PM

Muskrat how d you do the rest day thing with your 30 runs in 30 days, that has turned into over 100 days for some people on that thread?

Run often, mostly easy, sometimes hard.  Best advice I was ever given.  One of the runners in that thread is on day 380 or something like that.  He runs 35 miles sometimes...20 miles ..but lots of 5-10 miles in a week.  Insane amounts, but the biggest thing is that on a "rest" day, you run slower than normal.  It was recommend to go 1-2 minutes slower than your normal pace.  I have trouble slowing down that much, so I would run about :30 slower than normal.  You also only run the minimum miles on a "rest" day.  

I was truly shocked at how much I improved doing that challenge.  Another big key is to not bump up your mileage at the start.  If you are currently at 21 miles per week - you would run 3,2,3,3,3,5,2 for a total of 21.  You can then build off of that.  

Currently I am running 5 days per week, but I will sometimes add a 6th, and believe it or not, my day off is not after my LSD (which is up to 12 or 13 miles)... I usually run my 5 mile route the day after my LSD, but run it about :30 to 1:00 min slower than my LSD pace.  I find it amazing that I can recover by running. 

It has been interesting for me to see that running slow really does help you run faster. It is counter intuitive, but true. This is the first winter that I have been running consistently and it shows. Maybe not with Salty speeds, but I feel fresher and my times are starting to drop.  Today is a good example. I went out to do a slow run and was able to negative split and surprise myself at the end. Running is simple in it's nature, yet improvement takes a lot of dedication, analysis and time.

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mn_av8or - 2012-12-28 6:13 AM

Okay I never knew about Chris Gaines until now... that is pretty hilarious.

 

Thanks for those motivational videos, you can never have to many of those on trainer.  For my part I do Trainer Road and watch Dr. Who on Netflix streaming.  I set it up so that I can only watch a Dr. Who episode while I am biking, therefore I need to keep biking   Only on the first season but it's good motivation to get back on it.

 

I signed up for a Jan 1st 10k to keep my drinking in check and a Half Marathon the day before St. Patties day.  It is my first 10k race but I'm sure it will be cold and fun. 

Yanti, I saw this when I was in Lovina and some guy told us that drugs in Indonesia was bad juju.  As in like death penalty, is that true?

As in, yes. It's very sad. The government is (very slowly) moving toward rehab for possession but there are very few facilities and Indonesia is truly in the dark ages regarding so-called "mental" health issues, and definitely regarding addiction. And recreational use. And the difference between the two. And the difference between, say, Prozac, heroin, and pot.

Death penalty stands for drug traffickers (that means anybody with more than say a few joints or grams worth). I help run a prison group for those convicted of drug offenses and it can be heartbreaking.

My nephew (who's like my younger brother) spent two years in prison for drugs. The conditions are mindblowingly abominable.

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mn_av8or - 2012-12-27 4:13 PM

Okay I never knew about Chris Gaines until now... that is pretty hilarious.

 

Thanks for those motivational videos, you can never have to many of those on trainer.  For my part I do Trainer Road and watch Dr. Who on Netflix streaming.  I set it up so that I can only watch a Dr. Who episode while I am biking, therefore I need to keep biking   Only on the first season but it's good motivation to get back on it.

 

I signed up for a Jan 1st 10k to keep my drinking in check and a Half Marathon the day before St. Patties day.  It is my first 10k race but I'm sure it will be cold and fun. 

Yanti, I saw this when I was in Lovina and some guy told us that drugs in Indonesia was bad juju.  As in like death penalty, is that true?

Hahahaha! Hide Drug!

Ga-reaaaaaat! I'm awaiting Yanti's response. This will be a determining factor of my plans to attend her 40th birthday Smile

Indonesia has a lot of official and unofficial loopholes.



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mn_av8or - 2012-12-28 6:41 AM One of my favorite things about Asia is the attempts at English on signs.  Always entertaining, I will see if I can scrounge up a few of my photos.  Going from Washington State to Indonesia might be a bit of a drug culture shock haha.

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jbwills - 2012-12-28 9:16 AM So, I got off my butt this morning did 40mjn on the trainer. Went to the dentist and decided it was a great day to go enjoy the outdoors. Decided to go do some cross-country skiing. I am still learning so it was a blast. I went down a new trail I want to go get some pictures of. 1.5hrs after starting I was back at my start point, 4.92 miles. It was also warm on the mountain 10F. I still have Insanity to do tonight but was great to get outside and enjoy nature while the sun was up.

Jonathan

Well done!

A lot of the Euro triathletes do a fair bit of cross-country in the winter "off" season. Great stuff.

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Richardsdrr - 2012-12-28 1:48 AM Tried an hour and half on the turbo yesterday, managed about 40 min before I had to get off. I've had a slitting migraine since Christmas night. I thought my head was about to explode when I was on the turbo, so much so that I was physically sick. I have spent most of my time sleeping since, but still have the headache. Taking paracetamol but to no avail. I was supposed to go on an hour run today, but don't think I can manage it. I have to take the dog out shortly, perhaps I will get into my running gear just in case I feel like plodding. My wife and I are going away for a couple of days tomorrow to go to an old army friends wedding. So I made sure I booked into a hotel with a nice pool set up. So I should get some wet time over the next couple of days.

 

Ok I know I am a bit behind, lets blame it on the time difference.

Richard a great trick, prescribed by a doctor, for Migraines is a can of Coke and 2 asprin. I must addmit that when I heard it I thought it was the biggest load of BS but it actually works (something about the chemicals in the Coke combining with the asprin).

Even better is if you are able to combine it with an ice back to the back of the neck and find the spot where your top and bottom jaws join and press hard turning in little circles. This last bit will hurt like a b!tch and may even make you cry but it helps a lot. Combining all of these things together i can generally get rid of my migraines in about 20-30 minutes, someimes quicker if I catch them early. If I dont do them they can last for days.

No training for me today designated rest day which I'm feeling a bit antsy about but I understand that I need to do them otherwise I get too worn out later.

Muskrat how d you do the rest day thing with your 30 runs in 30 days, that has turned into over 100 days for some people on that thread?

 

Thanks Stacey. I will give the coke and Asprin a go, as paracetemol is not working. Woke up with same headache today day 3.

So sorry Daz. I lost nearly two years of my life to a nearly-continuous migraine. It's straight-up suffering.

A lot of the over-the-counter migraine formulations in the U.S. combine aspirin, paracetamol and caffeine. It seems to work much better than any of the three or two alone, and it's been fairly extensively studied.

I figure the sugar in Coke also helps if you haven't been able to keep anything down, and for me Coke often soothes nausea.

You don't get these often do you?

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jmkizer - 2012-12-27 11:12 PM

Tonight I started working on our Manatee Roster and I noticed that not everyone is is using the training log.  It would be super helpful it you would log your training for a few reasons.  Reason #1 is probably encouragement.  As you may have noticed, we Manatees talk a lot and part of that is checking in on each other a lot.  No one wants to check in to see a blank wall!  Also, if you have questions, other Manatees may want to check your logs to help answer it.  

X2 on this point. One of the best things that started when I first wandered in here was the # of inspires and PM's that I would receive. I knew people were looking at my logs and encouraging me to improve.   That made me feel good and want to push myself. I can't let down such a cool group of people now, can I? Wink

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