Mad Manatees 2015.3 CLOSED (or Poptarts? Pet pics?) (Page 15)

Originally posted by mcmanusclan5

That's AWESOME!  I had read the Jesse Thomas article in Triathlon, but hadn't seen that video and the results across athletes.  Actually pretty impressive difference...  Topside must make a difference, too.

So, I'm thinking that if I shave my arms/shoulders, I could totally go pro. 

Matt

Originally posted by IronOx

I don't shave my legs--I think everyone should shave armpits, but no one should have to shave legs.  Until someone explains how it is okay for guys but 'gross' for women.  I saw that video last year before Whistler and decided I could use the help.  First time I had shaved in about 5 years.  It didn't help that much . 

Originally posted by 4agoodlife

J and I had a pretty heated discussion about him shaving before IMAZ...partly due to that video and stats. Told him until he's closing on podium contention, it's not gonna happen. And if it does happen before that, I'm not shaving.

Of course there was the whole "if I crash..." argument, but until he does, discussion is closed 

Originally posted by mcmanusclan5

Ha!  Kim keeps threatening to wax me (I rate high on the Chewy scale).  Arms, back, chest and all... 

Hasn't come to that yet, but I don't sleep as soundly as I used to. 

Matt

PS - I did shave my legs for Galveston and CapTex - there's a first time for everything - and the dude in the video is right about how the sheets feel at night!  Feels cool and weird as he!! at the same time - true with jeans, as well.  Really really really weird feeling... at first. 

'Course, not as weird as when your daughter notes - without batting an eye - that she needs to shave cuz her legs are now fuzzier than dad's!

M

Originally posted by 4agoodlife

J and I had a pretty heated discussion about him shaving before IMAZ...partly due to that video and stats. Told him until he's closing on podium contention, it's not gonna happen. And if it does happen before that, I'm not shaving.

Of course there was the whole "if I crash..." argument, but until he does, discussion is closed 

Originally posted by mcmanusclan5

Awesome!  Really curious to hear how it goes.  Seems like a really cool addition to the racing menu (at least if you're a swimmer - I admit that I'd be embarrassed doing my big, sloppy, slow, open turns at something like that!!). 

When's the meet?  Doing any specific training for it?

Oh, and I was actually wondering the same thing as your comment on the fur-aero penalty.  I've actually asked that in the past and been poo-pooed as a crackpot (true enough, but perhaps for other reasons).  All I know is that Andy Potts - who didn't shave his legs for years as he didn't believe in any advantage on the bike - was wearing one of those tops (M2 maybe) on the bike to cover his arms/shoulders.

If covering them with some slick fabric works, I'd have to think that taping a bunch of brillo pads on one's shoulders before a ride would have the opposite effect...   

Anyone have any thoughts on that (seriously - the top vs. no top vs. fur for aero)?  I imagine it's slight, as are all of these, but I wonder if it's of a similar magnitude to the gains of one of those bike tops?

Matt

Originally posted by mcmanusclan5

Depends a bit on the pistol.  A Desert Eagle isn't going in much less than a frame pack, but a small 9mm (Shield or such) opens some options.

I know some folks who run with a belly band (there are several models out there, but that search will get you going) or if it's a very small weapon a Stowaway (not sure if that one would be good for anything more than a short run, though).  Also know several who run with a small weapon in a fanny/belly pack (that one seems like it would also bounce, but doesn't seem to bother some people).

The belly band would put the pistol closer to hand if needed (unless your weekend runs are overnight ones and you just want something in camp, then just a more secure packing method might suit, but it didn't sound like that from the question), but still concealed and not bouncy during a run. 

Agree the pack strap idea is interesting.  Would need to be a pretty secure strap, I'd think, unless it's a mini-pistol...

Is it primarily for two or four legged critter protection (no pressure to answer - just curious)?

Matt

Originally posted by rrrunner

Very good points. Mine is a .40 Glock, so it's big.  I'd figured that with the low risk I was ok with it in my backpack but I guess if I really think through situations in which I would need it then having it behind me is of little use. I am thinking four legged (or no legged). I was hoping to avoid two packs but I guess something on my waist makes the most sense.

Thanks for the input y'all. Discussions on here always make me think things through more thoroughly.

Originally posted by mcmanusclan5

Ha!  Kim keeps threatening to wax me (I rate high on the Chewy scale).  Arms, back, chest and all... 

Originally posted by melbo55

For those discussing hydration packs that also have options for CC:  my ultrarunner friend recommends this vest for hydration although she doesn't 'carry':

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GN4OOHC/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3JTEENOA7U7ZV&coliid=I1UV4AYO5UN9CD&psc=1

Originally posted by melbo55

For those discussing hydration packs that also have options for CC:  my ultrarunner friend recommends this vest for hydration although she doesn't 'carry':

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GN4OOHC/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3JTEENOA7U7ZV&coliid=I1UV4AYO5UN9CD&psc=1

Originally posted by Jet Black No specific training. I'm sure they'll work on turns the week before in practice, but I'll miss it as I'll be on vacation. I've read over on slowtwitch about the sleeved tops and apparently the shoulders and upper arms make the biggest difference. A full sleeve is faster than one to the elbow, but you get the biggest gains by just covering down to the elbow. And that discussion was just about the fabric being faster than skin, not hair. I really think you'd see a huge difference by wearing a sleeved (to the elbows) on the bike. I've got a castelli T1 that's supposedly 1.5 minutes faster on HIM distance & 3 minutes faster on IM distance. I'd bet you could double those numbers with the amount of hair you'd be covering.

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Yeah a ton of people love this vest.

For me, the way I look at it is that if I am going to bring this much water, I should probably have enough space to carry survival essentials. I've always been skeptical if these vests can do that. Perhaps they can but I dunno...I also wonder if they are designed to carry weight in the way TJ needs.

I definitely don't know the answer but this is what prevents me from inVESTing in one heh

Originally posted by rrrunner

Yeah, until I go ultra (um, not anytime soon) I don't think I'll need that much water. I've actually turned my search toward holster type options and think I'm goin to try this if I hear back from them that it will work in my situation.

Originally posted by Asalzwed

So, is it 4 or 2 legged predators that you are most concerned about? 

Originally posted by rrrunner

Yeah, until I go ultra (um, not anytime soon) I don't think I'll need that much water. I've actually turned my search toward holster type options and think I'm goin to try this if I hear back from them that it will work in my situation.

Originally posted by amd723

I look at that and think chafing!!

Originally posted by rrrunner

It's got some really good reviews for people that use it running. I do want to be able to wear it on my back tho

Originally posted by Asalzwed

How are you going to handle hydration for the PPA