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2012-12-13 6:15 AM
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If I were Skupin I would have had a really hard time keeping Abi as she sits there and calls me a moron and an idiot. What a strange way to plead your case to stay. I'm going to have to hit mute during the finale when she has her chance to speak. I'm sure there will be nothing but garbage coming out of her mouth.

I really can't believe Lisa made it this far. I don't know why exactly, I just didn't see it at the beginning of the game. She seems too nice to play Survivor I guess.

Skupin all buzzed on sugar was pretty funny . That trip swimming with the wale shark, what a once in a lifetime experience. Very cool.

I like Malcolm and all but I really don't want to see him skate to the end. I hope someone can give him some competition and keeps things interesting.

 



2012-12-13 6:32 AM
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Wow - RC on Abi Maria's ponderosa video. Wicked.
2012-12-13 7:21 AM
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BikerGrrrl - 2012-12-12 9:35 PM I am lost on the wisdom of that vote...

 

I think Abi did herself in when she called Skupin "stupid" and a "moron"... not smart when you are fighting for your life in the game.  Maybe she realized that she had NO shot of winning this game and wanted to sleep in a bed and eat.  She might have had Artis and Petes vote but that is about it.  Best she could do is split the vote but I agree on the idea that keeping either Malcom or Denise helps you.  Lisa has no shot at winning and Skupin still has some jury members that don't like him very much so which ever player makes final three Malcom or Denise is probably winning the prize. 

 

I could put up with that crazy bish Abi for 3 more days for a million.   I mean I've put up with my wife for 16 years.  I like them crazy.

2012-12-13 7:27 AM
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trigal38 - 2012-12-13 6:15 AM

If I were Skupin I would have had a really hard time keeping Abi as she sits there and calls me a moron and an idiot. What a strange way to plead your case to stay. I'm going to have to hit mute during the finale when she has her chance to speak. I'm sure there will be nothing but garbage coming out of her mouth.

I really can't believe Lisa made it this far. I don't know why exactly, I just didn't see it at the beginning of the game. She seems too nice to play Survivor I guess.

Skupin all buzzed on sugar was pretty funny . That trip swimming with the wale shark, what a once in a lifetime experience. Very cool.

I like Malcolm and all but I really don't want to see him skate to the end. I hope someone can give him some competition and keeps things interesting.

 

 

Lisa has somehow found a crack each time she was targeted and she played the game and fought for her life and it worked out.  I respect her for doing that but she is wishy washy as any player I've ever seen and can be a bit annoying in that respect.  I don't see a problem with adjusting your strategy based on new information but she changes her strategy with the way the wind is blowing. 

I also find it hard for someone like her as a Christian to play this game the way it has to be played usually to win.  It's a cutthroat game that makes you often go back on your word.

This should be a good finale Sunday.  All the players there played and didn't really ride coat tails.  I guess you could say Denise did once the merge happened but she always spoke up in Tribal and competed very hard in challenges.

 

The whale shark reward was AMAZING.. that is going on my life to do list.  Skupin all jacked up on Mountain Dew was great.  My son thought he was drunk.  Hope his stomach didn't turn on him after all the sodas considering he hasn't had sugar in a long time.   

2012-12-13 7:28 AM
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Abi called Skupin an idiot then a moron twice just to show how much she CAN'T win and why they need to NOT get rid of her so they can have her in the final 3....sitting next to Abi is a no-brainer, so she was behaving in a way to demonstrate how awful she could be so they would see that anyone in the finals with HER would win....she just wanted to survibe the night.

2012-12-13 7:38 AM
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trigal38 - 2012-12-13 4:32 AM Wow - RC on Abi Maria's ponderosa video. Wicked.

 

Abi deserves that but really RC needs to let it go but now she looks more like Abi and it's sad. Also Abi really has no idea how she acted and I think she is confusing being "honest" for being a total beotch.

 and look Carter trying to flirt with Abi lol.



2012-12-13 9:12 AM
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I have followed the season on and off, but have caught the last 3 episodes, so I may have a different take. Wouldn't it have made sense for Malcom (with Abi and Denise) to vote off Skupin? That would leave him allied with Denise and against weaker players Lisa and Abi for both immunity and final 3. Or is Denise that much of a threat to him?

If Malcom doesn't win immunity, I think he is the target as Lisa and Skupin take their chances against Denise.

Is Malcom really that much of a favorite to with the million? Denise seems to be the type that could get some votes.



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2012-12-13 9:19 AM
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TriJedi - 2012-12-13 9:12 AM I have followed the season on and off, but have caught the last 3 episodes, so I may have a different take. Wouldn't it have made sense for Malcom (with Abi and Denise) to vote off Skupin? That would leave him allied with Denise and against weaker players Lisa and Abi for both immunity and final 3. Or is Denise that much of a threat to him? If Malcom doesn't win immunity, I think he is the target as Lisa and Skupin take their chances against Denise. Is Malcom really that much of a favorite to with the million? Denise seems to be the type that could get some votes.

 

I've watched all season and from my perspective Malcom is the man to beat from a "respect of the game" perspective.  He started on a losing tribe and he and Denise were the only ones left standing.  That is outplay and outlast.  Once on the new tribes/merge Malcom was a physical threat and won immunities and seemed to be in on the decision making and had a strong alliance since the merge.  Denise is the same way but just didn't win immunities like Malcom but she is VERY likable and helps at camp.  Skupin seems to be a nice guy but his former tribe members never liked him or Lisa.  I thought Artis, on the jury, was going to come across the fire and get into it with him one episode.  Lisa has been hanging on by a thread in this game but she hasn't really "controlled" it like Skupin/Malcom/Denise. 

 

If the jury is bitter and votes for who didn't send me home then Lisa has a shot but the way she has played toward the end shows her as a player there to win but along for the ride with the rest.  No big move on her part that worked out with her calling the shots.

 

Denise might get the bitter vote just because she didn't seem to rub people the wrong way and didn't seem to be the Godfather orchestrating.  The only person that didn't like Denise is Abi but that crazy girl didn't like anyone.

 

2012-12-13 10:21 AM
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Afletcher - 2012-12-13 6:28 AM

Abi called Skupin an idiot then a moron twice just to show how much she CAN'T win and why they need to NOT get rid of her so they can have her in the final 3....sitting next to Abi is a no-brainer, so she was behaving in a way to demonstrate how awful she could be so they would see that anyone in the finals with HER would win....she just wanted to survibe the night.

As much as I would hate to be seen defending Abi... that was how I took it too. She made her case, and she most certainly will not win no way no how.... BUT... final 3 also get bigger prize money. so she might not win the million, but she most certainly was pleading for more money and it really irritates me when people like her get pulled to end and cash a bigger check than those that were good at the game.

2012-12-13 10:31 AM
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Jtiger - 2012-12-13 6:27 AM
trigal38 - 2012-12-13 6:15 AM

If I were Skupin I would have had a really hard time keeping Abi as she sits there and calls me a moron and an idiot. What a strange way to plead your case to stay. I'm going to have to hit mute during the finale when she has her chance to speak. I'm sure there will be nothing but garbage coming out of her mouth.

I really can't believe Lisa made it this far. I don't know why exactly, I just didn't see it at the beginning of the game. She seems too nice to play Survivor I guess.

Skupin all buzzed on sugar was pretty funny . That trip swimming with the wale shark, what a once in a lifetime experience. Very cool.

I like Malcolm and all but I really don't want to see him skate to the end. I hope someone can give him some competition and keeps things interesting.

 

 

Lisa has somehow found a crack each time she was targeted and she played the game and fought for her life and it worked out.  I respect her for doing that but she is wishy washy as any player I've ever seen and can be a bit annoying in that respect.  I don't see a problem with adjusting your strategy based on new information but she changes her strategy with the way the wind is blowing. 

I also find it hard for someone like her as a Christian to play this game the way it has to be played usually to win.  It's a cutthroat game that makes you often go back on your word.

This should be a good finale Sunday.  All the players there played and didn't really ride coat tails.  I guess you could say Denise did once the merge happened but she always spoke up in Tribal and competed very hard in challenges.

 

The whale shark reward was AMAZING.. that is going on my life to do list.  Skupin all jacked up on Mountain Dew was great.  My son thought he was drunk.  Hope his stomach didn't turn on him after all the sodas considering he hasn't had sugar in a long time.   

This is what irritates me about all those that come to play an "honest" game. First IT'S A GAME. You have watched it, you know how it is played, if your morals are SO HIGH... then DON'T PLAY IT.

Second, that's fine if Lisa is "nice" and all... but then don't go around making promises you can't keep. Ya, you are nice and don't want to cut a throat, but then you go around promising alliances any chance you get!!!

Coach pizzed me off for that very reason... he wanted to go on and on and on about his integrity and how noble he was... but he was like a crack head running around making conflicting alliances with everyone. My God, don't start none, won't be none.

That's what people don't respect, don't say one thing and then do another.... and then don't do that over and over again. I can see that she has played and she is where she is because of it, but I don't see her getting any votes.

2012-12-13 11:09 AM
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I really hate Abi excuse my language but I want someone to punch her in the box.



2012-12-13 11:42 AM
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Honestly, I don't like Abi, but watching Ponderosa at least she is willing to let it go and acknolwedge it was a game and that she was doing what she had to to make it one more day.  RC needs to move on, seriously.
2012-12-13 11:51 AM
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ChrisM - 2012-12-13 9:42 AM Honestly, I don't like Abi, but watching Ponderosa at least she is willing to let it go and acknolwedge it was a game and that she was doing what she had to to make it one more day.  RC needs to move on, seriously.

agree.

2012-12-13 3:31 PM
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ChrisM - 2012-12-13 9:42 AM Honestly, I don't like Abi, but watching Ponderosa at least she is willing to let it go and acknolwedge it was a game and that she was doing what she had to to make it one more day.  RC needs to move on, seriously.

agree.

Yep, I agree too.
2012-12-13 3:33 PM
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trigal38 - 2012-12-13 4:32 AM Wow - RC on Abi Maria's ponderosa video. Wicked.

 

Abi deserves that but really RC needs to let it go but now she looks more like Abi and it's sad. Also Abi really has no idea how she acted and I think she is confusing being "honest" for being a total beotch.

 and look Carter trying to flirt with Abi lol.

OMG yes, that was cracking me up.

2012-12-13 3:44 PM
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trigal38 - 2012-12-13 4:32 AM Wow - RC on Abi Maria's ponderosa video. Wicked.

 

Abi deserves that but really RC needs to let it go but now she looks more like Abi and it's sad. Also Abi really has no idea how she acted and I think she is confusing being "honest" for being a total beotch.

 and look Carter trying to flirt with Abi lol.

OMG yes, that was cracking me up.

That would be great if they hooked up lol



2012-12-13 4:57 PM
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Sorry Big Appa, saw I repeated your point from above...

But clicking thru the Ponderosa vids, I realized how little I actually cared about most of them

RC - well, have to admit I clicked for a bikini shot but the laugh scared me off

Jeff  - Agree, douche.  he also needs to let it go, watched about 60 seconds

Pete/Artis - completely, totally, so what...   didn't even open these.  who cares?

Penner - the only one I actually liked.

Carter - the mouth skeeves me out, had to turn it off.  Sorry, petty

Abi - watched for fireworks, only mildly satisfied.



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2012-12-14 12:36 AM
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Big Appa - 2012-12-13 9:09 AM

I really hate Abi excuse my language but I want someone to punch her in the box.

She's doing what those kind of people do.

She was mean and cruel and a beyotch to eveyone (especially RC) then when she finds out that she was wrong, says sorry once (and probably a bit empty) THEN when the appology is not excepted, they cry that they are trying to be the bigger person and the person wronged is now the bad person.

They feel like that can victomize someone over and over again, then if their apology is not accepted, suddenly THEY are the martyr and the victom.

Interesting that RC tells her to not talk to her just like she told RC weeks ago - payback...

BOTH need to grow up, IMO.

Oh, and Carter hitting on her?  Turns my stomach.  Boy must be horny being 40 days from home?  That's scraping the bottom of the barrel.

2012-12-14 12:41 AM
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Oh, as for game play?  Stupid to not at least TRY to get Denise out...  Maybe they thought that Malcom would give her the idol and put them at risk?

If they (Lisa and Skupin) joined with Abi to vote out Denise and he gave her the Idol?  Then whoever Malcom and Denise voted for was gone or tied.  Even if they voted Abi as per plan and she went, then suddenly they tried to cross Malcom/Denise and hurt their chances next round?

I guess I'm grasping at straws trying to think of SOME reason they didn't go for Denise.

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Kido - 2012-12-14 12:41 AM

Oh, as for game play?  Stupid to not at least TRY to get Denise out...  Maybe they thought that Malcom would give her the idol and put them at risk?

If they (Lisa and Skupin) joined with Abi to vote out Denise and he gave her the Idol?  Then whoever Malcom and Denise voted for was gone or tied.  Even if they voted Abi as per plan and she went, then suddenly they tried to cross Malcom/Denise and hurt their chances next round?

I guess I'm grasping at straws trying to think of SOME reason they didn't go for Denise.

I think this is right, now that you mention it I think they did discuss this problem at one point.   Still, I think it was worth the risk and once again have proven themselves idiotic.

2012-12-14 8:24 PM
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I think Abi's downfall at that last tribal was pushing the case too hard for how much she couldn't win...she went overboard.  You lay the seed...and let them ponder.  If you push and push and push they are just going to snap and get rid of you....

Haven't seen the Ponderosa Video yet...will watch that in a bit.



2012-12-16 6:21 PM
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Getting close. I'm calling Malcolm. I think he pulls out immunity and wins.

If I'm wrong on that, Denise wins.

Not sure about favorite player, Malcolm, Denise, and Penner have a good shot.

But if you have watched the previews.... at least we will be rewarded another precious moral conflict/delima by Lisa before all is said and done.

2012-12-16 7:44 PM
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Kido - 2012-12-07 5:16 PM

The way I see it breaking down:

If malcom gets to the end, he wins.

Denise can beat everyone except Malcom.  Get rid of him and make it to the final, has a good chance.

Skupin can only beat Lisa and Abi so needs to get rid of Malcom and Denise

Lisa's ONLY longshot is with Abi and Skupin (long shot per my previous commet).  She will lose to Denise and Malcom for sure.

Abi, well, is Abi, and would lose to pile of poop, if put up against it.

 

Good synopsis and I agree that One-on-One, Malcom beats everyone, Denise beats everyone but Malcom, etc...  but I think there is another dimension that needs to be considered - the three person vote.

In a three person vote, the dynamic changes dramatically. IF Lisa or Skupin  go to the end with BOTH Malcom and Denise then they have a very good chance to win.  Here is why: 

There are NO Blue tribe players in the jury. NONE.  All were eliminated too early. But there will be 5 Yellow jury members  (RC, Artis, Pete, Abi, and either Lisa or Skupin). Tribal loyalty should sway some.  

As for the remaining three red tribe jury members, their vote may be split between Denise and Malcom. Both have similar claims to why they are 'Survivors' - both are veterans of a Blue tribe that went to nearly every tribal, tough luck all through the start, physical and charismatic domination, etc.  

If I was Lisa or Skupin the strategy I'd use would be to get rid of my yellow tribe mate. 

2012-12-16 8:50 PM
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Oooo, things just got interesting.....
2012-12-16 9:40 PM
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Ahhww man... soooo close. But then again, so was Ozzy. Tough break Malcolm.

Skupin winning immunity bolstered his case, but I just don't think he will get enough votes that like him. I think it will be Denise. Curious if she has Malcolms vote.

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