Fred D's Ironman/Half-Ironman focused Mentor Group --CLOSED (Page 16)

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Run update.  Ran 4 trail miles yesterday.  Now, before you start yelling at me for running on trails  , before this really turned into an injury during a run in Cozumel, I was managing this as tightness, and it would generally go away in 24 hours or less.  And oddly enough, it hurt less for a shorter time after hillier runs, sometimes not at all.  Maybe it was the changing landscape, or the cushioning, I don't know, but 4 miles in the hills felt OK after, while 4 miles of pavement would hurt much worse.

It feels like I am mostly back to the management stage, and I am working pretty hard on glute strength as the suspicion is this is gluteus medius related.  Hips were sore getting out of bed, but feel pretty good today even after sitting for a while, so knock wood it's on the upswing.

I am just going to build slowly to Calif and see how it goes. 

Travel back to Tucson today.  Good timing, rain in the forecast here.  This state is so misnamed.  Last time I came to FL, which wasn't that long ago, I arrived in a downpour...

Question for the swimmers.  When do you breath in relation to the recovery part of your stroke?  I think I have my timing messed up and I am not sure if it is causing me to slow down or what.  I pretty much start breathing as soon as I start my recovery but I keep seeing things about breathing when your arm is right above your head really.  So that's kind of the total opposite of when I breath.

Even if you could, why bother?  You know you'll be miserable for a long time after in recovery.  But why do an IM if you don't like to train?  And if you are only doing 2 hours you don't like to train.  Even the most busy of folks can find more then 2 hours in their week.

It is funny - just read both and there's definitely some interesting psychology involved.  I just don't get the mentality of putting in the bare minimum. Or doing it to say you've done it.  I am not a big volume person but I want to do the work - the accomplishment is far more satisfying when preceded by hard work, smart goal-setting and really committing to it.

For me, some of the joy of training is reduced just due to the juggling between all the other things going on but i can honestly say I do love it. 

I play hockey once a week (occasionally twice) during the winter.  I really love the sport.  I used to play golf quite a bit but triathlon has definitely taken over that.  If I am going to be gone for 4 hours it will be on my bike not on a golf course.  Now the only time I golf is when I want to drink beer .

I usually take Mondays off primarily because Saturday and Sunday are higher volume days and I could use it.  I know that family and work can force people to take unscheduled days off on a weekly basis.  If that is your case I would probably not have a scheduled day off just take it when it comes.  This is also why I like training early in the morning because very rarely does something come up where I miss a workout.

ETA:  If your body feels good on a scheduled day off - do some active recovery biking or swimming.  An EZ swim is good to keep your stroke in tact and feel for the water plus you are doing something .

I agree.  Way to many people out there looking for shortcuts.  2 hours a week is comical really...trying to figure out what could be done in 2hours each week that would prepare someone for a 17 hour race...becuase it will take that person all 17 hours.

I think we are preaching to the choir as all of us like to train...but funny that people actually consider these things!

i find her threads totally useless, she has been posting like that for the last year, i responded to the first few, now i find it a waste of time and keystrikes.

if you are gonna race the race, respect the distance and the work to get it done. I really do not like the shortcut route or the people that are involved in them. If you hate training, STOP training, if your biggest goal is to hear some guy call your name, you have bigger issues in your life than you are realizing.

Sorry, but posts like hers totally cheese me and i have absolutely NO respect for them. Maybe a little harsh, but it is the way i feel.

So anyway, my coach has me scheduled for a day off every monday, last night i worked on one of my race bikes, i probably shoulda worked out, i wanted to do core, but i am paying him for his input, and i am sure in 2 months i will be wanting the rest day, just felt weird, i wanted to work out, but didn't.

anyone else feel like that??

I think of her posts like a COJ post.  Think of it that way and then it seems better.  I don't really get her and her questions are very much the same over and over BUT she actually gets good responses.  She ignores them, you can tell by her very next question, but I like to think that someone else is learning. 

Well, she might actually be learning something I must admit.  She just takes a really long time to get there.  I remember when she was trying to do all the group classes and wanted to train for an IM.  She enjoyed the group classes and hates tri training but at least she picked one.  lol

Totally.  I tried the day off approach and it just mentally didn't work for me.  I also think it gives me too many 2 a days, which is harder to fit in my schedule.  So I am sticking to the 7 day plan this time.  Life gives me too many breaks as it is, regardless of my desire to take them or not

bryancd - 2012-01-10 8:48 AM

Rudedog55 - 2012-01-10 9:39 AM

So anyway, my coach has me scheduled for a day off every monday, last night i worked on one of my race bikes, i probably shoulda worked out, i wanted to do core, but i am paying him for his input, and i am sure in 2 months i will be wanting the rest day, just felt weird, i wanted to work out, but didn't.

 

anyone else feel like that??

Learn to embrace the rest day. Look forward to it, plan to do different things. You will learn to appreciate it, I know I do.

You use to work out every day did you not Bryan?  Do you find yourself more physically rested now?  Or is it more a mental break? 

bryancd - 2012-01-10 11:48 AM

Rudedog55 - 2012-01-10 9:39 AM

So anyway, my coach has me scheduled for a day off every monday, last night i worked on one of my race bikes, i probably shoulda worked out, i wanted to do core, but i am paying him for his input, and i am sure in 2 months i will be wanting the rest day, just felt weird, i wanted to work out, but didn't.

 

anyone else feel like that??

Learn to embrace the rest day. Look forward to it, plan to do different things. You will learn to appreciate it, I know I do.

I know I am often anxious to do all the training i can in the early stages of a training cyclye and then anxious for reast days in peak weeks.  I hope to be able to build in a regular rest day and only tapping into it when life is pretty crazy.  For me, Fridays are the hardest to get in if i can't get in a morning workout so it's best if it's a rest day - or i beat myself up for not doing any training.

Disclaimer: I am no great swimmer but a drill that really helped me more with the overall timing/rythm of the stroke (and for me breathing was part of it) was the 'underhand switch'.  I'll have to look for a definition but the swim coach used this one for the group and it really clicked for me on how it all was put together - not sure if it's what you're looking for ...

BOOYAH!!!!  I got sponsored!!!

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Congrats!!! That's awesome!!!

Wow, my new job is making it a lot harder to keep up with these forums!

Congrats! Sweet! What does it involve??

not quite sure yet, i am sure i will get more info, but basically just raise awareness for the organization and their cause.  This one kinda hit home, i had only submitted two apps, i really wanted to be a part of a philanthropic endeavor this year, and this seemed like a worthy cause.