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2013-06-25 2:14 PM in reply to: TankBoy |
Seattle | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by TankBoy Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by marcag RR from airport, off to Germany. Was supposed to go to Colorado but go re-routed :-) http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp... I had the same thoughts you did about the quad issues on the bike. First was how how it compared to training rides, and then what could be done with the swimming. I noticed that you swim less than I do per week, but also less per swim. Not sure how well mine will translate yet, and won't know for awhile. Just something I saw. At the very least, I do have notably less leg cramping in the swim workouts now as opposed to earlier in the year or any time before that. Marc, clearly you just need to start wearing compression sleeves on the swim. I used to suffer the same issue on the swim (calf cramps) and it seems to have been mostly solved with an increase in overall volume (frequency and distance per workout). Has this always been a problem, or is it a new one to you? It looks like your swim volume will be lower this year than last (but is still higher than most). On the bike I don't suffer quad cramps very often, but I am prone to having my adductors seize up on grippy rides that have a high VI. They usually come later in the ride when I try to settle in and ride steady-state, but the damage is done. It has gotten somewhat better since I have incorporated more hard group rides in my training and I try to stay with the splits. I usually try to jam in extra electrolytes and fluids when they set in. I know in all likelihood that is nothing more than a placebo, but it still seems to help even so. In my experience cramping is always an issue of fitness and over-shooting targets. In my case I am lucky: you don't really need your adductors to be firing right to still run ok. Unfortunately that is not so true with your quads, but you obviously seemed to keep your legs underneath you with a 1:35 run! A few of years ago in a HIM I got caught up in a bike race and overcooked the bike by about 10 watts over my target. I had planned to run a Hi everyone! Just wanted to drop in and say this picture made my day. I kind of want to laminate it and put it in MY bag I'm laughing with you Rusty, WITH you! |
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2013-06-25 2:38 PM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Quick question - for you and the group - what do you use to track performance during the ride and run? I have the 910, but it has failed now in 2/3 tri's (the one race this season it didn't acquire any position information - had me swimming to the Bay of Guinea off Africa - a VERY straight line on Strava, so some excellent sighting, clearly... and a nice speed of ~54,000 miles/hour. Not sure what that is per 100m, though). I have my first Oly (ever) this weekend and want to just use the 910 on multisport throughout, but am concerned about it not performing again. Also, how'd you get the NI during the race? Not sure I've seen that option on either my 910 or my 800 for my road bike (which has a PM - sadly, my tri bike does not... YET). Congrats again. Top step of the podium must be nice! Matt 810 on the bike, 210 on the run. I like using more dedicated devices for each and also race with what I train with. |
2013-06-25 3:43 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Quick question - for you and the group - what do you use to track performance during the ride and run? I have the 910, but it has failed now in 2/3 tri's (the one race this season it didn't acquire any position information - had me swimming to the Bay of Guinea off Africa - a VERY straight line on Strava, so some excellent sighting, clearly... and a nice speed of ~54,000 miles/hour. Not sure what that is per 100m, though). I have my first Oly (ever) this weekend and want to just use the 910 on multisport throughout, but am concerned about it not performing again. Also, how'd you get the NI during the race? Not sure I've seen that option on either my 910 or my 800 for my road bike (which has a PM - sadly, my tri bike does not... YET). Congrats again. Top step of the podium must be nice! Matt 810 on the bike, 210 on the run. I like using more dedicated devices for each and also race with what I train with. 910 for both, with QR. I used the 910 for the last sprint in auto multisport, but will not be using it in the water for IM C |
2013-06-25 4:12 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Quick question - for you and the group - what do you use to track performance during the ride and run? I have the 910, but it has failed now in 2/3 tri's (the one race this season it didn't acquire any position information - had me swimming to the Bay of Guinea off Africa - a VERY straight line on Strava, so some excellent sighting, clearly... and a nice speed of ~54,000 miles/hour. Not sure what that is per 100m, though). I have my first Oly (ever) this weekend and want to just use the 910 on multisport throughout, but am concerned about it not performing again. Also, how'd you get the NI during the race? Not sure I've seen that option on either my 910 or my 800 for my road bike (which has a PM - sadly, my tri bike does not... YET). Congrats again. Top step of the podium must be nice! Matt 810 on the bike, 210 on the run. I like using more dedicated devices for each and also race with what I train with. I like dedicated devices too. 500 on the bike and 305 for the run for me. |
2013-06-25 4:33 PM in reply to: axteraa |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN |
2013-06-25 5:27 PM in reply to: axteraa |
Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN I've decided to accelerate my schedule and do an ironman next week instead of at Canada.....
The most unique event that makes July 4 so legendary around here is the HERMOSA BEACH IRONMAN competition. In this extreme athletic test, participants must run a mile, paddle a surfboard a mile and then consume a 6-pack of their favorite beer! The first one to hold down their beverage(s) successfully wins, and you may want to keep your distance from the center of the action or you're at risk of getting drenched. For pics of the event's crazy action, check out the Ironman gallery. The action starts at 11:00 a.m. and anyone over 21 is eligibile to enter- just make sure you know that close to 1,000 spectators will be monitoring your skills. For those interested in participating, the Ironman is $20 and you will need to bring your own surfboard and 6-pack to join in. Keep in mind that alcohol fines are TRIPLED in Hermosa Beach on the 4th, and you will need to be very discreet if you choose to partake in the activities, especially soon after the Ironman. If you're interested in registering, you'll need to go to GAME CHANGERS from 1:00 P.M. - closing on JULY 3! |
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2013-06-25 5:39 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
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2013-06-25 6:15 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Quick question - for you and the group - what do you use to track performance during the ride and run? I have the 910, but it has failed now in 2/3 tri's (the one race this season it didn't acquire any position information - had me swimming to the Bay of Guinea off Africa - a VERY straight line on Strava, so some excellent sighting, clearly... and a nice speed of ~54,000 miles/hour. Not sure what that is per 100m, though). I have my first Oly (ever) this weekend and want to just use the 910 on multisport throughout, but am concerned about it not performing again. Also, how'd you get the NI during the race? Not sure I've seen that option on either my 910 or my 800 for my road bike (which has a PM - sadly, my tri bike does not... YET). Congrats again. Top step of the podium must be nice! Matt 810 on the bike, 210 on the run. I like using more dedicated devices for each and also race with what I train with. I used the 910xt for the whole race at Honu, but when I set up the autosport, I used a pool swim because for whatever reason I always lose GPS signal about 15-20 minutes into every OWS I've done. Once I lose that signal, it throws everything else in the multisport off. I have been meaning to take the steps to do the master reset and reinstall the firmware, but I'm too lazy right now. GPS data on the swim is of no significance to me. I still use my edge 500 on the bike though...so really the 910 is just a stop watch for me on the swim, collects data on the bike even though I don't look at it (other than maybe an occasional glance at total time), then it serves as my run watch. |
2013-06-25 6:27 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
Master 2912 ...at home in The ATL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by ChrisM I've decided to accelerate my schedule and do an ironman next week instead of at Canada.....
The most unique event that makes July 4 so legendary around here is the HERMOSA BEACH IRONMAN competition. In this extreme athletic test, participants must run a mile, paddle a surfboard a mile and then consume a 6-pack of their favorite beer! The first one to hold down their beverage(s) successfully wins, and you may want to keep your distance from the center of the action or you're at risk of getting drenched. For pics of the event's crazy action, check out the Ironman gallery. The action starts at 11:00 a.m. and anyone over 21 is eligibile to enter- just make sure you know that close to 1,000 spectators will be monitoring your skills. For those interested in participating, the Ironman is $20 and you will need to bring your own surfboard and 6-pack to join in. Keep in mind that alcohol fines are TRIPLED in Hermosa Beach on the 4th, and you will need to be very discreet if you choose to partake in the activities, especially soon after the Ironman. If you're interested in registering, you'll need to go to GAME CHANGERS from 1:00 P.M. - closing on JULY 3!
I would be down for a relay team, but you probably don't want me in the anchor leg. My couple of attempts at a beer mile did not end well. And that was back when I was "training" for it. |
2013-06-25 6:45 PM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
Master 2912 ...at home in The ATL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Originally posted by bzgl40 Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 For some reason, I can't get THIS race report. Keeps shunting me to a login page - even though it shows me as logged in on the top! I can read others, though... Will try this one again later, but not sure if anyone else has had the same problem with it. And, thoroughly uneventful races are usually ones that are paced perfectly, right? Matt I finally gave up and just went to his race log and directly to the race report. Duh. Yep, that worked! Great race - no apologies necessary for the RR (short course does not make it boring!). Quick question - for you and the group - what do you use to track performance during the ride and run? I have the 910, but it has failed now in 2/3 tri's (the one race this season it didn't acquire any position information - had me swimming to the Bay of Guinea off Africa - a VERY straight line on Strava, so some excellent sighting, clearly... and a nice speed of ~54,000 miles/hour. Not sure what that is per 100m, though). I have my first Oly (ever) this weekend and want to just use the 910 on multisport throughout, but am concerned about it not performing again. Also, how'd you get the NI during the race? Not sure I've seen that option on either my 910 or my 800 for my road bike (which has a PM - sadly, my tri bike does not... YET). Congrats again. Top step of the podium must be nice! Matt whoops - sorry - it looks like I used the URL for the page in edit mode.... As to what device I use for data, it really depends on the race and what my coach wants to see. But mostly put me down for another vote for "dedicated devices." My bike always has my Garmin 800 on it. I have a 500, but as I have posted before, I love the elevation look-ahead feature of the 800 and use that as my primary screen with 3s power and HR also displayed. I have other screens that I will toggle through on longer races. The only thing I use my 500 for is to loan to frindes to convert them to the dark side. For open 5k & 10k runs I use my garmin 610, but don't look at it much - it is only to collect data to adjust my zones. For Sprint and olympic tris I will use my 310xt, but again, it is really only a data collection device for the run. I wear it from the get-go, but only so I don't have to fiddle-fart around with it during the race. I wish I had something smaller that was waterproof that was as good. I find it to be more important to use something for pacing on HMs, Marathons+, trail runs of any distance, HIMs and IMs. For HMs, HIMs, and longer-ish trail runs I use my 610 - for the tris I will grab it in T2 and put it on and start it up as I am running down the road - it grabs a signal really, really fast. I might wear a timex on the swim, especially if it is a two-looper. If I do it usually stays on my wrist while I am on the bike, simply because I forget to pop it off in T1. |
2013-06-26 8:00 AM in reply to: TankBoy |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN My wife and I are in Ottawa for a few days after the race. Very warm and humid here, glad it wasn't like this for the race! We've gotten a couple of runs and ride in while here. I'm still recovering a bit but my legs feel pretty good for the most part. Tab says she enjoys me doing the HIM distance much more than IM - both from a spectator POV and how much the race beat me up. I think I agree with her, I can see it becoming my race distance of choice. |
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2013-06-26 8:41 AM in reply to: axteraa |
Payson, AZ | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by axteraa My wife and I are in Ottawa for a few days after the race. Very warm and humid here, glad it wasn't like this for the race! We've gotten a couple of runs and ride in while here. I'm still recovering a bit but my legs feel pretty good for the most part. Tab says she enjoys me doing the HIM distance much more than IM - both from a spectator POV and how much the race beat me up. I think I agree with her, I can see it becoming my race distance of choice. I've not done a IM but I like the HIM distance. Both from a race distance but also the volume of training for it. Although if you looked at my logs you'd hardly believe I like that volume...but I digress. I toyed with doing an IM a few times and I just can't get behind the training required to do it right |
2013-06-26 8:52 AM in reply to: bzgl40 |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN I didn't like the necessity of having to go so long for the long runs and rides. I do longer rides now for training because they're fun. But it's not as regular. The running wasn't. I also didn't really like going through the day. I like stepping it up on race day and everything up to HIM allows for that. Might try again some day, but it would be a much more adventurous one. |
2013-06-26 10:39 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Veteran 2842 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN For the Hermosa Beach IM, that might be the ONLY event I can think of where my rugby background and "training" might come in handy. Jason, when you use the 910, do you zero it out on the run before you start, and does it acquire signal well on the go? I'm guessing so, if you lost the signal on the swim (which is exactly what happened to me a few weeks ago during my race, I think). I wonder if you can tell it lost signal during the race, as I recall looking at it on the bike AND run and getting pace info. In fact, it loaded the pace info up to GC for those legs, but didn't have an overal speed for either - and the map had me going to the Bay of Guinea off the coast of Africa and back for all 3 legs! It was, I must say, an impressive looking swim. As for HIM vs IM - hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahahaahahahaha. Whoooo.... OK. I'm back. Just had to laugh at myself for even writing that, having not even done an Oly yet. I do get the sentiment of being able to race a race rather than complete an event. It's why I like the HM distance so much - you can redline for pretty much the whole thing, and only need a few days to recover. That said, Kim is interested in trying her first marathon in the fall, so I'm signed up to run BayState with her in November. Been a looooooong time since I've done a full marry, so I'm kind of looking forward to it and seeing what I can do. My base is actually better now (even having only stepped up this year to longer runs and soon tri's) than when I ran them a couple decades ago, although I will only have 8 weeks between my HIM and the M... Should be fun anyway, and there are a bunch of fall sprints that I'll sprinkle in during training for fun. OK, now why did I start this post again? Beer or something, I think... Back to work now! Matt |
2013-06-26 10:50 AM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Jason, when you use the 910, do you zero it out on the run before you start, and does it acquire signal well on the go? I'm guessing so, if you lost the signal on the swim (which is exactly what happened to me a few weeks ago during my race, I think). I wonder if you can tell it lost signal during the race, as I recall looking at it on the bike AND run and getting pace info. In fact, it loaded the pace info up to GC for those legs, but didn't have an overal speed for either - and the map had me going to the Bay of Guinea off the coast of Africa and back for all 3 legs!
What I did was set the watch in run or bike mode while in T1 before the race to let it aquire the signal. Garmin's tend to recognize the last location they had a signal quickly. Then I set up the multi sport mode with the pool swim, bike, and run. I found that well within the time I was going through T1, my watch had reaquired the signal for GPS. When I had issues with the GPS signal dropping during OWS, I could feel my watch vibrate. I looked at it, and on the screen it said "GPS signal lost." One of these days I'm going to have the firmware fixed...but I'm still too lazy. I tried it once already and must have done something wrong. |
2013-06-26 12:15 PM in reply to: axteraa |
Elite 3779 Ontario | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by axteraa My wife and I are in Ottawa for a few days after the race. Very warm and humid here, glad it wasn't like this for the race! We've gotten a couple of runs and ride in while here. I'm still recovering a bit but my legs feel pretty good for the most part. Tab says she enjoys me doing the HIM distance much more than IM - both from a spectator POV and how much the race beat me up. I think I agree with her, I can see it becoming my race distance of choice. I get beat up no matter the distance...I'm scared to think how I would feel doing a full IM. |
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2013-06-26 12:17 PM in reply to: Jason N |
Elite 3779 Ontario | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by Jason N Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Jason, when you use the 910, do you zero it out on the run before you start, and does it acquire signal well on the go? I'm guessing so, if you lost the signal on the swim (which is exactly what happened to me a few weeks ago during my race, I think). I wonder if you can tell it lost signal during the race, as I recall looking at it on the bike AND run and getting pace info. In fact, it loaded the pace info up to GC for those legs, but didn't have an overal speed for either - and the map had me going to the Bay of Guinea off the coast of Africa and back for all 3 legs!
What I did was set the watch in run or bike mode while in T1 before the race to let it aquire the signal. Garmin's tend to recognize the last location they had a signal quickly. Then I set up the multi sport mode with the pool swim, bike, and run. I found that well within the time I was going through T1, my watch had reaquired the signal for GPS. When I had issues with the GPS signal dropping during OWS, I could feel my watch vibrate. I looked at it, and on the screen it said "GPS signal lost." One of these days I'm going to have the firmware fixed...but I'm still too lazy. I tried it once already and must have done something wrong. With my 910 I've decided (for now) not to use it in the swim. I just have it sitting on the bike setup in Multisport mode for the bike and run. |
2013-06-26 12:18 PM in reply to: TankBoy |
Elite 3779 Ontario | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Very late race report - but this is from my last Sprint. http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp... |
2013-06-26 1:43 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by brigby1 I didn't like the necessity of having to go so long for the long runs and rides. I do longer rides now for training because they're fun. But it's not as regular. The running wasn't. I also didn't really like going through the day. I like stepping it up on race day and everything up to HIM allows for that. Might try again some day, but it would be a much more adventurous one. Norseman |
2013-06-26 1:53 PM in reply to: axteraa |
Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Tab says she enjoys me doing the HIM distance much more than IM - both from a spectator POV and how much the race beat me up. I think I agree with her, I can see it becoming my race distance of choice. Weird. My wife has said exactly the same thing. She calls it the perfect distance. Training isn't horrible. Spectating is only a few hours s. 12, recovery is easy and you can actually do stuff that night/the next day |
2013-06-26 1:53 PM in reply to: axteraa |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by brigby1 I didn't like the necessity of having to go so long for the long runs and rides. I do longer rides now for training because they're fun. But it's not as regular. The running wasn't. I also didn't really like going through the day. I like stepping it up on race day and everything up to HIM allows for that. Might try again some day, but it would be a much more adventurous one. Norseman Exactly |
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2013-06-26 2:01 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN OK, havng saddle issues. When I got the fit, my LBS said that the rails could be an issue as the saddle was slammed forward and pressure was being put on the rails in front. It's a fairly cheap PX saddle. Fitter said it "could be an issue" The issue is the rails breaking, tho they are steel. So that, coupled with a little numbness (tho not that bad) on recent 5 hour rides tempted me to try an adamo. Tried before, didn't like it. First two times used a friend's prologue on the trainer. Seemed ok, not bad, more comfortable than before. 3d try was an attack I bought on ebay based on a slowtwitch rave review. 75 mile which, um, may not have been "smart." painful by the end. At the risk of TMI, I am getting cysts on the skin where the sitbones meet the saddle and exert the most pressure. Resolved enough to get on the trainer today, and wasn't bad, but sitting here afterards. Well, ouch. A bit lost. Should I go back to my original saddle and risk the rail issue (which I am not sure is much of an issue), and the minor numbness??? try a different adamo model (why do they have so damn many???) .... gut it out with the attack??? It doesn't seem to be a "fit" issue as I can on occasion find a comfortable spot, and it's pretty good in aero (it's sitting up and climbing that I think is the worst). But it's more of a skin reaction to the pressure issue, which I am not sure I can adapt to...... Oh, and this comes on the heels of a temporary foray from Infinit to on course nutrition to see if I can live off the course. Why the F do we (I) try all these new things training for an IM, can't leave well enough alone. |
2013-06-26 2:08 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by ChrisM Tab says she enjoys me doing the HIM distance much more than IM - both from a spectator POV and how much the race beat me up. I think I agree with her, I can see it becoming my race distance of choice. Weird. My wife has said exactly the same thing. She calls it the perfect distance. Training isn't horrible. Spectating is only a few hours s. 12, recovery is easy and you can actually do stuff that night/the next day I'm sure we would all feel the same way as spouses/SO, supporters, or spectators. My GF is actually doing Cycle to the Sun (Haleakala) again this weekend. She signed up at the last minute since some of her coworkers are doing it (also their second time). They moved the race up to late June which totally took it off my race schedule (too close to Honu), but since she didn't do Honu this year she figured she would give this race another go. I won't be making the trip since it was such a last minute decision, but it would have been cool to drive SAG for them. |
2013-06-26 2:10 PM in reply to: Jason N |
Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by Jason N Originally posted by ChrisM Tab says she enjoys me doing the HIM distance much more than IM - both from a spectator POV and how much the race beat me up. I think I agree with her, I can see it becoming my race distance of choice. Weird. My wife has said exactly the same thing. She calls it the perfect distance. Training isn't horrible. Spectating is only a few hours s. 12, recovery is easy and you can actually do stuff that night/the next day I'm sure we would all feel the same way as spouses/SO, supporters, or spectators. My GF is actually doing Cycle to the Sun (Haleakala) again this weekend. She signed up at the last minute since some of her coworkers are doing it (also their second time). They moved the race up to late June which totally took it off my race schedule (too close to Honu), but since she didn't do Honu this year she figured she would give this race another go. I won't be making the trip since it was such a last minute decision, but it would have been cool to drive SAG for them. Being in the midst of IM training again, can't say I disagree. I don't mind the long rides and runs, I just don't like the pressure of having to do them, if that makes sense |
2013-06-26 2:37 PM in reply to: mndymond |
Member 112 Danielson Ct | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Congrats on graduating. Lots of dedicated hours. |
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