SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! (Page 197)

Man I didn't realize your wife was racing this weekend too. Very cool.  Is she up here on BT?

Awesome that you feel better in the water.  I was hoping that would be the case. 

Just site more often on the swim. Not that big of a deal.  And of course you'll be able to use the others around you for a bit of guidance.  You 'll know you are going the wrong way when you are swimming perpendicular to most other's   Wow!  I just looked a the course maps.  When you return on the swim you cross paths of those going out.  That could fun. 

Cool news about the bike!  One bottle should be plenty for the ride.  If not a behind the seat cage or she can throw a cycling jersey in T1 and a bottle in the back pocket.  That's gonna add some time though

edit... I just noticed  Karen was on the podium at this race last year, wonder if she can provide some good course recon for you.

Edited by fattyfatfat 2009-08-04 2:34 PM

Chris,  I agree with Andy, Reub and John.  Not every day is going to be stellar...I'm coming off a few rough ones myself  : )  But I will also add that if this is your first brick of this length it is going to take it all out of you and not feel too good.  With time and repetition it will feel better...that's why you are doing it before your HIM.  Come race day you will be use to the feeling and it won't be as bad  : )  Please don't make a lot out of the distance of an HIM.  Just think of it as an opportunity to have more fun over a longer period of time    It really is a matter of relaxing, trusting your training - if you keep the training as you have been you are going to be in great shape from a training perspective - and having fun.   Seriously, your traininly looks strong, so relax.   Let the rough training days go and enjoy the breakthroughs!!!   You will rock in 8 weeks !!!

Hey, Tracy, didn't know they had waves in NC....the surf was bad here this morning.  No wind.  Would've been a perfect day for a bike ride, though.  Darn how work gets in the way of training!  and Surfing

On the pre-workout food question, I am a morning workout person, also, and pre-swims never eat, pre-run, never eat, pre bike always eat.  I bring gu for the longer swims (more than one hour) and will take it with water a few minutes before getting in. 

So far I just bring gu for runs longer than 8 miles, but I know I should eat my pre race meal at least 90 min before my long runs from now on and have decided that for marathon training, I am going to do this if it kills me.  Even if I have to wake up at 4 to eat.  I am considering fuel for marathon training long runs, but I have never been able to take in sports drinks on runs...and have been sort of ok with water and gels.  Although, at mile 9 of my half marathon, my stomach got all crazy, I think it was because when I took my gu, I had to take it with gatorade, because there wasn't water at that station.  So, not sure about Infinit at this point.  Lots of time to try different things.

Oh, to Dannett...remember what you have overcome!  You are a strong, capable woman who can do pretty much anything you want to do!  The evidence is right here, right now!    Be happy in what you do.  You definitely deserve it.  This is definitely a great group, one that I've learned lots from (including from you).

Oh, to John, I think Fred Flintstone Rocks!!! 

Reuben, good luck and have fun this weekend...to you and your wife...you only have one first tri!

Reub:

For the sprint itself, one water bottle should be enough. For longer rides xlab and hydrotail make behind the seat hydration systems, and if she has aerobars there are numerous systems for between the bars.

Doug

Big question, how hard did you push the bike? do you train in Power or Zones? Reason I ask is if I sit in Z4/5, I am pretty gassed heading into the run.   I hovered in Z4 85% of the time when riding the LG HIM course last week and I could barely muster Z2 on the run and had to walk up the biggest hills.  I realize you might be able to get a little more out of things in a shorter brick, but still it was 90F.  Cut yourself a little slack and go a little easier on the bike next time and see if that helps!!!

Doug---you're a lawyer?  Wouldn't have guessed that in a million years.  Not that there is anything wrong it with it.....just always interesting to find out something new about people.

Reuben--I tend to drift to the left when I swim.  I am a single sided right breather. My swimming teacher always tells me to bring my right hand out a little further to compensate for the drift.  Might try that to see if it helps.  I know when I remember to do it, it works for me.

Thanks everyone.  I think I am just going to have to chaulk it up to "one of those days".  I signed up for a sprint on the 16th and tried to somewhat simulate race conditions minus the swim, but bust the bike hard.  As I said earlier, I tried to keep it all in the big ring and in my aerobars- even on the 10% grades to help my fitness.  It's not feasible for me to race like this.  In training, I have done up to 48b/3r, so I shouldn't be too worried.

I think it was just kind of that panic thing.  I will say that I have not had too many days like these, but man do they suck! 

Happy Training!

Edited by Jeepguy2358 2009-08-04 3:38 PM

Thanks Suzy.  I train in Zones.  Looking at my Garmin, I was pretty much high Z3 / low 4.  I know I pushed it too hard though.  I guess it's hard to have both - an all out effort on the bike and a decent run.  I wouldn't normally do that.  I guess I was just getting a little greedy.

Chris---

Everyone has already said something to you, and you have responded, but a bad day REALLY is A GOOD DAY!  We grow from it.  Just ask Andy's child after they crashed into a fire hydrant.

We learn from the rough days....

Did my reps tonight
21, 27, 21, 21, 50 = 140

Also threw in what we always called 6 inches... not sure what it is really called, where you lie on your back and have your feet together 6 inches off the ground, did that for 60 seconds.

+ 20 twisting crunches to each side.

Figure if I am going to take the time to do the situps might as well work the rest of the area.

LOL! I sent Chrissie an offer for free beer in Zurich on FB today. Damn if she isn't going back to Roth.

Are you pulling our chains?  What is the C x?

Hey Chris---I had the chance to hit a home run on the suckmeter during OWS tonight.  And to Steve's point I learned something valuable.  I need to get my rear to class more often!

Suzy

Nope.  No BS .. that's her.  C x is her signature. 

JOHN...YOU SCARED HER OFF!  What's up with that?

HOLY COW YOU ARE STILL YELLING AT ME.  I LOVE IT!!   Not scared...intimidated!

I like that idea of doing a different type of crunch w/ each set.  I did straight basic crunches tonight.

So my 200 situp report: initial test 80
First day - Week 3 Column 3
21
27
21
21
maxed out at 50

Next day is Friday.

SHUT UP SUCKA!!!! I *heart* Chrissie  omg 

I tend to be the same way but I'm digging these late afternoon/evening workouts this week.  Then I'm too tired to eat afterwards and go to bed.  Maybe that will be the "magic weight loss" pill I've been looking for.  LOL

My abs are frickin KILLing me today.  I guess that is a good thing.  Can't wait for tomorrow's Day 2 of week 1.

And I'm doing baby stuff compared to Tony and Jeremy.  Hmm.  Gotta start somewhere.
 

My favorite is toast and pb.  That seems to settle well in my stomach but keep it from grumbling.  My nutritional coach has me experimenting w/ empty stomach early AM workouts for the light ones like 30-45 min - low intensity.  She said that it helps teach the body to use its stores for fuel and not what you just ate (paraphasing of course).  Anyways, it been ok and I figure I'm saving 100-200 in those cases so over a month or so that could be a 1 lb.

That's awesome - your son must be so happy.  Congrats to the team!!!!!!!!!!

Ditto w/ everything else the group has said but I will pass along one more piece of advise from my last mentor group when I had some rough HIM training days. 

You are training for the race on X date not the workouts you are doing now.  The plans are designed to break you down and build you up for endurance of an HIM.  So don't sweat it esp. on a hot day.  No pun intended!

See John You should have went to Roth instead. Maybe you can switch it up. I dig Chrissie too. But I'm loving Lindsay Corbin after seeing her this weekend

Edited by TrevorC 2009-08-04 9:49 PM

Who calls it that? You or Sam? I had too....It was like a fastball down the middle.