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 2009-07-15 11:13 AM in reply to: #2286902 |
Champion  8540      the colony texas |  Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight LossI'm only slightly joking when I add the "put the fork down" and "push away from the table" exercises you can work out all you want but it still comes down to calories. other than that slight hijack,, the same as everyone else.. running burns a bit more per hour than the others but running everyday is tough.. while I could (motivation issue's) bike an hour everyday |
| 2009-07-15 11:44 AM in reply to: #2286490 |
Member 72 Middletown, CT | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss The answer is D) Lifting weights and counting calories. You might burn more calories during swimming, biking and running than lifting weights, but you'll burn more the rest of the day if you lift heavy weights. |
| 2009-07-15 11:50 AM in reply to: #2287049 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss steven_lohmann - 2009-07-15 12:44 PM The answer is D) Lifting weights and counting calories. You might burn more calories during swimming, biking and running than lifting weights, but you'll burn more the rest of the day if you lift heavy weights. But the "rest of the day" still won't equal the amount you can burn doing those other things. And you could "easily" run some hard intervals and get a similar effect. |
| 2009-07-15 11:52 AM in reply to: #2287077 |
Master 2167 Livonia, MI | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss JohnnyKay - 2009-07-15 11:50 AM steven_lohmann - 2009-07-15 12:44 PM The answer is D) Lifting weights and counting calories. You might burn more calories during swimming, biking and running than lifting weights, but you'll burn more the rest of the day if you lift heavy weights. But the "rest of the day" still won't equal the amount you can burn doing those other things. And you could "easily" run some hard intervals and get a similar effect. E. All of the above. |
| 2009-07-15 11:53 AM in reply to: #2287093 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss noelle1230 - 2009-07-15 12:52 PM JohnnyKay - 2009-07-15 11:50 AM steven_lohmann - 2009-07-15 12:44 PM The answer is D) Lifting weights and counting calories. You might burn more calories during swimming, biking and running than lifting weights, but you'll burn more the rest of the day if you lift heavy weights. But the "rest of the day" still won't equal the amount you can burn doing those other things. And you could "easily" run some hard intervals and get a similar effect. E. All of the above. If you like.  |
| 2009-07-15 11:55 AM in reply to: #2286490 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss Some of us have to take care of the kids, help clean the house, take the dog out and play with her, go to work with a small commute, etc. etc. so "All of the above" is not really an option. |
| 2009-07-15 11:57 AM in reply to: #2286549 |
Veteran 351 | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss Daremo - 2009-07-15 10:36 AM All of them combined along with proper nutrition. (But running burns the most the fastest as mentioned). X2 I lost 60 lbs running and doing zumba (latin dance aerobics). But those last 10lbs are VICIOUS! I've been trying to lose those "last 10 lbs" for 7 months now! I finally decided it was time to get serious, got back to strict calorie counting and am trying very hard to cut out sugars (I'm one of those people who tells themselves they've been good, so they deserve a cookie). nutrition, cardio, and weight lifting all need to be a regular part of your diet plan to lose those last few lbs! (yes, it's easier said than done - I'm trying to convince myself here too! :-p) |
| 2009-07-15 12:20 PM in reply to: #2286490 |
Master 1572 PA | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss I would chalk up my fat loss as 90% nutrition and an exerise regimen of high intensity interval training along with some basic bodyweight strength stuff (pushups, squats). |
| 2009-07-15 12:21 PM in reply to: #2287049 |
Extreme Veteran 3177 | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss steven_lohmann - 2009-07-15 9:44 AM The answer is D) Lifting weights and counting calories. You might burn more calories during swimming, biking and running than lifting weights, but you'll burn more the rest of the day if you lift heavy weights. Curious as to the proof of this. I saw a recent study come out which actually indicated that the amount burned via extra muscle mass is not really significant in the overall scheme. Also unlike popular belief is the metabolism burning at a higher rate for the rest of the day after any exercise... I still think it comes down to More out than in done in a healthy manner. |
| 2009-07-15 1:24 PM in reply to: #2286490 |
| 244 | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss For me, running. It has leaned out my lower body the best and it actually kills my appetite, esp. long runs. And doing HIIT on the TM....it is intense. Swimming, who knows how many calories I burn because I eat like a pig afterwards. That said, I do lift heavy 2x week and as my muscle mass has increased, so has my metabolism. (Not overnight, mind you. I've been adding muscle slowly over 4 yrs. It seems to take me forever) |
| 2009-07-15 1:32 PM in reply to: #2287347 |
Master 2167 Livonia, MI | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss LaurenCO - 2009-07-15 1:24 PM For me, running. It has leaned out my lower body the best and it actually kills my appetite, esp. long runs. And doing HIIT on the TM....it is intense. Swimming, who knows how many calories I burn because I eat like a pig afterwards. That said, I do lift heavy 2x week and as my muscle mass has increased, so has my metabolism. (Not overnight, mind you. I've been adding muscle slowly over 4 yrs. It seems to take me forever) That's another good point about running. I also find that running decreases my appetite unlike every other form of exercise which increases it. |
| 2009-07-15 1:33 PM in reply to: #2287179 |
Champion 5522 Frisco, TX | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss bel83 - 2009-07-15 12:21 PM steven_lohmann - 2009-07-15 9:44 AM The answer is D) Lifting weights and counting calories. You might burn more calories during swimming, biking and running than lifting weights, but you'll burn more the rest of the day if you lift heavy weights. Curious as to the proof of this. I saw a recent study come out which actually indicated that the amount burned via extra muscle mass is not really significant in the overall scheme. Also unlike popular belief is the metabolism burning at a higher rate for the rest of the day after any exercise... I still think it comes down to More out than in done in a healthy manner. x2 - Balance is the key - eat right and do a mixture of high intensity/shorter duration and lower intensity/longer duration exercise in any of the three individual disciplines (or better yet, all three). Avoid the routine, the body adapts to the routine. |
| 2009-07-15 1:35 PM in reply to: #2287347 |
 Master 1324 Rochester, NY | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss LaurenCO - 2009-07-15 2:24 PM Swimming, who knows how many calories I burn because I eat like a pig afterwards. Swimming doesnt get the rep because your HR doesnt go as high in this exercise. So the technical calorie counter doesnt measure as high compared to running, etc. But they arent counting the calories burned to stay warm. Your stomach knows though and thats why you're ravenous afterwards. |
| 2009-07-15 2:53 PM in reply to: #2286490 |
Expert 1123 Falls Church, VA | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss The hunger after the swim isn't always because you burned a lot of calories, it's because of the cold water. (at least that is the current understanding) |
| 2009-07-15 3:18 PM in reply to: #2286490 |
Master 1690 Metro NY Area | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss Running seems to burn more calories but I can bike or swim much, much longer than I can run. It's all good for you. Rest and sleep are also important and often not considered but it all adds up. |
| 2009-07-15 4:00 PM in reply to: #2287077 |
Member 72 Middletown, CT | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss JohnnyKay - 2009-07-15 12:50 PM But the "rest of the day" still won't equal the amount you can burn doing those other things. And you could "easily" run some hard intervals and get a similar effect. Someone starting out will not be able to put the miles or time in doing SB or R to make those huge calorie deficits that more experienced athletes do. They could do the weight training and reap the benefits for hours afterwards. The problem with hard intervals is you really can't do them everyday without getting injured. But you can lift everyday if you rotate the exercises. Let's compromise and say run intervals a couple times a week and lift the other days. Count calories on all the days. Edited by steven_lohmann 2009-07-15 4:01 PM |
| 2009-07-15 4:03 PM in reply to: #2287810 |
Expert 1123 Falls Church, VA | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss steven_lohmann - 2009-07-15 5:00 PM JohnnyKay - 2009-07-15 12:50 PM But the "rest of the day" still won't equal the amount you can burn doing those other things. And you could "easily" run some hard intervals and get a similar effect. Someone starting out will not be able to put the miles or time in doing SB or R to make those huge calorie deficits that more experienced athletes do. They could do the weight training and reap the benefits for hours afterwards. The problem hard intervals is you really can't do them everyday without getting injured. But you can lift everyday if you rotate the exercises. Let's compromise and say run intervals a couple times a week and lift the other days. Count calories on all the days.Still.. the increased metabolism of muscle can get exaggerated, plus it's hard as hell to build muscle. Watching your calories is the best discipline of course. I don't try to lose weight any faster on 8 hours of activity as when I did it on 5 hours (that would be dumb!) |
| 2009-07-15 4:14 PM in reply to: #2287810 |
Extreme Veteran 3177 | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss steven_lohmann - 2009-07-15 2:00 PM JohnnyKay - 2009-07-15 12:50 PM But the "rest of the day" still won't equal the amount you can burn doing those other things. And you could "easily" run some hard intervals and get a similar effect. Someone starting out will not be able to put the miles or time in doing SB or R to make those huge calorie deficits that more experienced athletes do. They could do the weight training and reap the benefits for hours afterwards. The problem with hard intervals is you really can't do them everyday without getting injured. But you can lift everyday if you rotate the exercises. Let's compromise and say run intervals a couple times a week and lift the other days. Count calories on all the days.I am still curious about how people would reap benefits for hours after a weightlifting workout. I am not trying to cause an arguement I am really curious where this information comes from. Everything I have seen has indicated that if there is a metabolic boost it is very minimal and it is actually greater and lasts longer with a higher intensity workout but still does not account for very many calories during your day. And again the amount of calories burned by any extra muscle mass is going to be minimal as well. When I find the articles I have read recently I will link them but I would be interested to see where you get your information regarding weightlifting. |
| 2009-07-15 6:15 PM in reply to: #2286490 |
Expert 1053 Culpeper, VA | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss I would say running, but honestly in the first part of the loss process I would say to use an eliptical of some kind. If you work hard, it has an amazing time/calories burnt ratio. It takes strain off of the knees while you shave off extra weight. I shaved from 255 down to 175'ish and running hurt my knees at first even at low levels of running speed/distance. Add to the fact I had knee issues from earlier life athletics. It is worth mentioning controling your diet is important as well. I think swimming is probably as good or better than running, but being a good enough swimmer to get the benefit of the same effort doesn't come as natural as dinking around on an eliptical machine. |
| 2009-07-15 7:34 PM in reply to: #2287853 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss bel83 - 2009-07-15 5:14 PM steven_lohmann - 2009-07-15 2:00 PM JohnnyKay - 2009-07-15 12:50 PM But the "rest of the day" still won't equal the amount you can burn doing those other things. And you could "easily" run some hard intervals and get a similar effect. Someone starting out will not be able to put the miles or time in doing SB or R to make those huge calorie deficits that more experienced athletes do. They could do the weight training and reap the benefits for hours afterwards. The problem with hard intervals is you really can't do them everyday without getting injured. But you can lift everyday if you rotate the exercises. Let's compromise and say run intervals a couple times a week and lift the other days. Count calories on all the days.I am still curious about how people would reap benefits for hours after a weightlifting workout. I am not trying to cause an arguement I am really curious where this information comes from. Everything I have seen has indicated that if there is a metabolic boost it is very minimal and it is actually greater and lasts longer with a higher intensity workout but still does not account for very many calories during your day. And again the amount of calories burned by any extra muscle mass is going to be minimal as well. When I find the articles I have read recently I will link them but I would be interested to see where you get your information regarding weightlifting. You are absolutely correct. The whole "weight lifting burns calories for long afterward" is WAY over-hyped in magazines, etc. It's become 'accepted wisdom', but falls squarely into 'urban myth'. |
| 2009-07-15 10:29 PM in reply to: #2287175 |
| Veteran 250 | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss gopennstate - 2009-07-15 12:20 PM I would chalk up my fat loss as 90% nutrition and an exerise regimen of high intensity interval training along with some basic bodyweight strength stuff (pushups, squats). +1 So many people underestimate the power of bodyweight exercises. I lost around 20 lbs during the second semester of last school year doing workouts of only 15-20 minutes of interval/bodyweight exercise, with the occasional run/heavy lifting. |
| 2009-07-15 10:37 PM in reply to: #2286490 |
Pro 4608 Brooklyn, NY | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss Running has done it for me. Now that I'm IM training I'm up about 8 pounds, but last year during marathon training I was the thinnest I'd been in years. I think the combination of the three is best, I got to that point before mary training by swimming and biking a lot as well, but when the run volume went up, my weight went down. It makes me look forward to marathon season post-IM. |
| 2009-07-16 12:39 AM in reply to: #2286490 |
| Expert 658 | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss swimming is best i think gives you a more total body workout if you have bad technique it sucks though, so if you have never swum much stick with running |
| 2009-07-16 11:32 AM in reply to: #2286490 |
Extreme Veteran 374 Hoboken, NJ | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss X2 for everyone indicating diet is key for weight loss regardless of which discipline you pick. Related to that, IMO, managing fat consumption is key to that diet (after all, most of us don't really want/need to lose weight - we want to drop fat to improve our overall body composition). I can be pretty obsessive about tracking my fuel intake and one thing I consistently find: If I work to eliminate all fat from my diet what I find is that, on a day by day basis, I end up having consumed approx. the right percentage of calories from fat. To be clear, I know you shouldn't try to eliminate *all* fat - my point is, fat is in everything and it's incredibly easy to consume far more than you intend or need to... |
| 2009-07-16 2:37 PM in reply to: #2286789 |
Extreme Veteran 418 Pittsburgh | Subject: RE: Which Discipline For Weight Loss So does tapeworm, I hear. |
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