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2007-10-19 10:34 AM
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I dated a guy a lot like that... I didn't realize how much it sucked until I was out. You will be SO much happer without all of that crap! YAY for you!



2007-10-19 10:39 AM
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pigfinn - 2007-10-19 10:12 AM
Finally, in August... I approached him and I said "if we don't work on this criticism, I need to get out of this relationship... because I am hurting", and he wrote back and said "you just don't want to be happy, you never wanted to be happy, this is about you and you being negative and always looking at the bad side of things".  So I wrote him back and said "so you are saying you don't want to look at the criticism", and he wrote back and said "again, this is about you and never wanting to be happy".  He wouldn't address it.  He wouldn't even do such much as acknowledge it.

So I ended it... it was impossible to get through to him that his "brutal honesty" was killing me inside



Yeah. I know people like that and YOU'RE always the one with the problem. It's NEVER that they do something wrong -- it has to be YOUR flaw.

See the problem with people like that is they're so focused on finding every little thing wrong with other people that they don't focus on their own `character flaws,' which is sometimes what they call them.

People like this guy end up alone and bitter and wondering why, since they're perfect, nobody wants to be around them.
2007-10-19 10:40 AM
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That's what we are here for...BTer's stick together.....NOW VENT AWAY!!!
2007-10-19 10:53 AM
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Renee - 2007-10-19 10:15 AM

Sounds like you have a case of jackassitis - an allergic reaction/condition resulting from constant exposure to a donkey....

Whew, I thought for a minute it stated DONKAI!  JSZAT would have taken umbrage.   

2007-10-19 10:57 AM
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pigfinn - 2007-10-19 9:24 AM

oh sorry, I guess I should have been more clear.

I am relating to the exboyfriend... and letting go of the anger and sadness and bitterness that I have for him. I see him post on another forum, a runners forum that we were both part of. I do not post there anymore, but am bitter to the fact that I can't, because he is there, and also that he flirts with women on there (some of who were my friends, go figure), and most of all, ,most people don't know how critical and mean he could be to me He is such a bullsh*tter, has them all fooled that he is such a nice guy. I'm just pissed about it all, and I just need to let it go

What's the forum link and his moniker?  I'll create a new account and start flaming him big time, but *stressing honesty here* will NEVER mention anything about you and BT or any association thereof.

2007-10-19 11:00 AM
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Oh so do it!!!!!


2007-10-19 11:08 AM
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pigfinn - 2007-10-19 11:29 AM
Renee - 2007-10-19 10:15 AM

Sounds like you have a case of jackassitis - an allergic reaction/condition resulting from constant exposure to a donkey. It'll pass. The key is to give yourself plenty of TLC and try to shift your energies from dwelling on the donkey to salving your wounds. Also, congratulate yourself on removing the verbally abusive pinhead from your life. You did right by yourself.

Death by papercuts. Ugh.

Let it out! If you have access to a heavy bag, that's a great way to purge that bitterness. Or, run hard. Have a good weekend!

thanks After some work on my own, through a bit of therapy and some other online forums... I did realize it was a verbally abusive relationship indeed.  Have you ever seen this site... http://www.youarenotcrazy.com/

Ah therapy is great, isn't it? Have not seen that site.

You don't have to necessarily let go. I found this attitude very helpful in dealing with someone I cared about who was toxic: I'll love you from a distance! A far, far distance.

Gotta love (from a distance) the people in your life who say "I love you and I'd love you more if you change!" I miss them! Or, I make it my mission to miss them. And then I don't.

2007-10-19 11:13 AM
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1stTimeTri - 2007-10-19 11:57 AM

pigfinn - 2007-10-19 9:24 AM

oh sorry, I guess I should have been more clear.

I am relating to the exboyfriend... and letting go of the anger and sadness and bitterness that I have for him. I see him post on another forum, a runners forum that we were both part of. I do not post there anymore, but am bitter to the fact that I can't, because he is there, and also that he flirts with women on there (some of who were my friends, go figure), and most of all, ,most people don't know how critical and mean he could be to me He is such a bullsh*tter, has them all fooled that he is such a nice guy. I'm just pissed about it all, and I just need to let it go

What's the forum link and his moniker? I'll create a new account and start flaming him big time, but *stressing honesty here* will NEVER mention anything about you and BT or any association thereof.



Yep, just tell us the forum and his name. It'll be like sicking the pit bulls on him!
2007-10-19 11:27 AM
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2007-10-19 11:27 AM
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1stTimeTri - 2007-10-19 8:57 AM

What's the forum link and his moniker? I'll create a new account and start flaming him big time, but *stressing honesty here* will NEVER mention anything about you and BT or any association thereof.


I was just going to offer to do the same thing!

Pigfinn...if you're such an awful person, it's a wonder he lowered himself to be with you. I mean, what does it say about him if all he can get is awful you??

Boys are mean...present company exempt, of course.
2007-10-19 1:04 PM
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Whew Pigfinn, thanks for the clarification (I think). 

If you liked the relationships you had on the other forum, keep them active.  I'll guess it's a lot like BT and you can choose to engage/stalk/spar/??? with some members and never contact others.  (We're happy for you to spend more time on BT.)  As for him hitting on mutual forum-friends, they either know him and are aware of how he operates, or soon will be.  If one of them contacts you about him, stick to facts ("We've moved on."  "I didn't like the way he treated me."

Enjoy the new-found freedom! 



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2007-10-19 1:45 PM
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Many of you already know pieces of *my* story.... and pigfinn, I've shared much of it with you previously...

I could have written that website. I lived it. For 10 years. And reading it makes me uncomfortable. Gives me a feeling somewhere between relief, disdain, sadness and shame... if there's a point in a Venn diagram where those 4 intersect.  I used to measure the good times with my exhusband in half days.

It takes time to work through it. To get through it.

But know... and keep always in mind, that you are a competent wise woman. You have done what is right for you and for your soul. You have done what is going to allow you to bloom and flourish and develop in ways that simply were not possible before.

There's good stuff out there. And there's a measure of pride and freedom in taking care of yourself. And realizing what's just not right.

I'm grateful every day. When I look around at the life I've had the opportunity to create for myself... the people that are by my side... my kitties, my home, Chris. The very items that make my life so good and full now are the things I have chosen for myself. After making the one choice that changed my life entirely. The choice to LEAVE.

My life could have turned out much differently. And I'm glad it didn't.

Give yourself some time. Re-group. If you are having trouble making sense of it all, go seek out some counseling. Very complex issues at play.

Good Luck and you know how to get ahold of me if you need anything. Kiss

2007-10-19 1:48 PM
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pigfinn - 2007-10-19 8:55 AM
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pigfinn - 2007-10-19 10:24 AM

oh sorry, I guess I should have been more clear.

I am relating to the exboyfriend...

I thought you were talking about the undies under your bike shorts.

just when I was beginning to like youYell

Well I'm glad I took care of that before you thought I'd make any kind of friend.

2007-10-19 2:30 PM
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Pigfinn,

Just like everyone said it sounds like you made the right decision, nobody should live like that. Now you have time to focus on yourself and whatever makes you happy. Yeah it's a bummer to lose someone that you care for and wish they would change but it sound that it's better to cut your loses at this point. I won't tell you that there are plenty of fish in the sea, go get a cat or a dog to fill the void or just engulf yourself in your workouts and your BT friends. You always have old and new friends here to talk to when you need them.

By the way we won't hold the over abundance of panties in your drawers against you.

2007-10-19 2:54 PM
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HCS5QA - 2007-10-19 2:30 PM

Pigfinn,

Just like everyone said it sounds like you made the right decision, nobody should live like that. Now you have time to focus on yourself and whatever makes you happy. Yeah it's a bummer to lose someone that you care for and wish they would change but it sound that it's better to cut your loses at this point. I won't tell you that there are plenty of fish in the sea, go get a cat or a dog to fill the void or just engulf yourself in your workouts and your BT friends. You always have old and new friends here to talk to when you need them.

By the way we won't hold the over abundance of panties in your drawers against you.

thanks

<By the way we won't hold the over abundance of panties in your drawers against you.> I think you guys aleady have, LOL!!



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2007-10-19 6:04 PM
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Pigfinn

yeah you need to let go. Maybe in time you can post there again but reminders are hard things. I can talk to my exs but ones I really cared about it might take a couple of years. Then you remember and realise your a triathlete which means you can have an elistest attitude towards them and know your better. .



2007-10-19 7:20 PM
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"By the way we won't hold the over abundance of panties in your drawers against you. "

What is an overabundance? Say a person had something approaching 100 in her drawer, hypothetically. Is that an overabundance? Or is something closer to 500 an overabundance? I'm thinking 200 is an abundance and anything over 300 is an overabundance.



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2007-10-19 7:29 PM
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Good for you!

I read this book a while back and it really helped:

book

The Little Book of Letting Go, by Hugh Prather 

2007-10-19 9:11 PM
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Renee - 2007-10-19 5:20 PM

"By the way we won't hold the over abundance of panties in your drawers against you. "

What is an overabundance? Say a person had something approaching 100 in her drawer, hypothetically. Is that an overabundance? Or is something closer to 500 an overabundance? I'm thinking 200 is an abundance and anything over 300 is an overabundance.

I'm thinking 100 is obsessive, 200 fanatic, 300 psychotic and 10 to 20 is normal. Now depending on the style and the matching night ware one for each day of the month might be fun (sorry thinking out load, down hector)

2007-10-19 9:31 PM
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HCS5QA - 2007-10-19 10:11 PM

Renee - 2007-10-19 5:20 PM

"By the way we won't hold the over abundance of panties in your drawers against you. "

What is an overabundance? Say a person had something approaching 100 in her drawer, hypothetically. Is that an overabundance? Or is something closer to 500 an overabundance? I'm thinking 200 is an abundance and anything over 300 is an overabundance.

I'm thinking 100 is obsessive, 200 fanatic, 300 psychotic and 10 to 20 is normal. Now depending on the style and the matching night ware one for each day of the month might be fun (sorry thinking out load, down hector)



You still do not answer what is "over abundance"
2007-10-19 10:09 PM
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HCS5QA - 2007-10-19 10:11 PM
Renee - 2007-10-19 5:20 PM

"By the way we won't hold the over abundance of panties in your drawers against you. "

What is an overabundance? Say a person had something approaching 100 in her drawer, hypothetically. Is that an overabundance? Or is something closer to 500 an overabundance? I'm thinking 200 is an abundance and anything over 300 is an overabundance.

I'm thinking 100 is obsessive, 200 fanatic, 300 psychotic and 10 to 20 is normal. Now depending on the style and the matching night ware one for each day of the month might be fun (sorry thinking out load, down hector)

10 to 20 is borderline homeless shopping bag lady!

Variety, Bubba, variety.



2007-10-19 10:12 PM
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JChristoff - 2007-10-19 10:31 PM

You still do not answer what is "over abundance"

Overabundance is when your panties don't match your bra. Those should be tossed. A good ratio of panties to match one bra - 3:1. 30 bras is about right - one for each day of the month. Therefore, 90 panties is just about right.

It's all about the math.

2007-10-19 10:57 PM
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I'm slow getting in on this thread but...he seriously criticized you because you had too many underwears that were the same pattern??? ARE YOU SERIOUS??? most guys would be delighted to be with a woman that LET them see their underwear on a regular basis. Ugh. This dude seriously needs to get a life. I am happy for you that you got out of this relationship but I know it is still hard. ((BIG HUG)) even though I don't know you I can still e-hug you! You go girl!
2007-10-19 11:36 PM
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Renee - 2007-10-19 8:12 PM

Overabundance is when your panties don't match your bra. Those should be tossed. A good ratio of panties to match one bra - 3:1. 30 bras is about right - one for each day of the month. Therefore, 90 panties is just about right.

It's all about the math.

Since you put it that way, I'm sold. Bring on the Panties! Oh yeah, bras too.



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2007-10-20 3:38 PM
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We're not supposed to spit during a run?  How else is a dainty lady to clear the Gatorade gak out of the back of her mouth?  You're lucky you dumped him before he advised you to stop sweating too -- that one would have been dangerous.

Seriously, he sounds like a toad.  I'm sure he had (or did a good job faking) some good qualities too, but you've done the right thing.   

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