Riding with cops...... (Page 2)
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() MadMathemagician - 2012-06-22 11:33 AM The Libertarian in me cringes. That is a blatant act of violating your privacy. He had no probable cause to do a background check on you. You should report him. He has abused his position. Because thanks isn't enough for this post. I'm sure this cop wouldn't want anyone rummaging through his past. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I just posted this story because I thought it was worth a giggle or two. As I said before, I am very easy going, and did not at all feel offended or violated. I have the utmost respect for cops and what they do...........
I certainly did not mean to set off a firestorm.
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() aquagirl - 2012-06-22 12:10 PM duder5189 - 2012-06-22 11:59 AM rsmoylan - 2012-06-22 10:52 AM aquagirl - 2012-06-22 11:12 AM So I went out for a ride the with a couple of new buddies. We were riding along and got to chatting about injury and subsequent recovery time. Friend number one, who I will refer to as "Chuck" says to me " Yes, it get's harder to recover as you get older, you are xyz years old right?"
OK BT never mind how old I really am, since THAT is not up for discussion here..........but anyway....
I looked at Chuck....blinking....he had overestimated my age by several years. I said " Oh way to overestimate a girl's age, are you always this charming??" He responded with " But I thought that is what it said on your licence, no?" Ummm........and when did I show my drivers licence to you? He then sheepishly admitted that he had run my licence. Huh? He said that he wanted to make sure I was not a convicted drug dealer or some such thing, before hanging out with me. I just laughed. Wondered if this was standard procedure when a cop makes a new friend. Too funny......... I am pretty easy going, and was not at all offended. I have since gotten to know he and his wife rather well. Nice guy, nice family. But I still giggle at the memory.
Lost in this discussion; was he right? Were you going to lie about your age? Or did he look up the wrong person? This was my question too...did he catch you in a lie or what?
Also, I think I'd feel fairly violated if someone I was hanging with sprung that on me. I don't know, maybe just tell me you're a cop and need to check out my priors before forming a bond with me or something instead of doing it behind my back. No! I never lied about my age.......why the heck should I ? (.... but that does not mean I am going to share this magical number with BT. He just came out with my "age", when we had the discussion about recovery from injury taking longer now than when we were in our 20's. So when he said I was "xyz" I corrected him and told him how old I really was. He just misread the date on the licence.
I did not feel violated or offended by the check. I see the point of it. He needs to know who he is associating with........... So do you. Your safety is just as important as his. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() DanielG - 2012-06-22 11:15 AM You do realize it doesn't really matter what happened or what you say about it now, people like getting spooled up over cops and it takes a life of its own. DING DING DING We have our winner! |
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![]() DiOnMaui - 2012-06-22 1:09 PM As was mentioned after my post...if they used civilian means to get this information, then that is 100% acceptable and, as mentioned, anyone can do it. However, if he used department equipment, it is most certainly a violation of procedure unless there is cause. Depending on the department/agency it may not even be acceptable to do it via the means that's available to you as a non-cop. Appearance of Impropriety is just as bad as actually doing something wrong and people may see you did a check and the common man would think you improperly used government resources to achieve that end. Well, so much for wanting to keep this lighthearted in the manner the OP started the thread. |
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![]() | ![]() MUL98 - 2012-06-22 1:05 PM Like i said if he used official capacity that would be bad. However if he went and filled out the same form any joe citizen can do and get a state run background check no problem.Tripopo - 2012-06-22 11:58 AMDepends on how he did it. As a private citizen you can go and have a criminal background check done on anyone. Most civilians don't know how so they don't. Now if he accessed the info on his own and not through a procedure available to all citizens yes abuse of power/violation of some criminal database privacy laws. Well it's not very hard to figure out how. Just google "criminal background check."There is a difference between using a private company as opposed to the resources of the state for this kind of check. The OP left me with the impression that he used his position as a cop to get at the info. |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() That's an outrageous invasion of privacy. We ALL have to be careful with who we socialize with. While I wouldn't report him, I would not continue any sort of friendship with him. And I would make it clear to him that his actions were/are completely inappropriate. The fact that he admitted it to you shows poor judgement on his part. IMHO. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I run people all the time to check to see if there are outstanding warrants for them on a public site. It's not a big deal that he looked to see if she was "convicted drug dealer" to me. IMO he was flirting with you |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() amd723 - 2012-06-22 1:20 PM DiOnMaui - 2012-06-22 12:09 PM jeffnboise - 2012-06-22 6:57 AM DiOnMaui - 2012-06-22 10:35 AM Calling BS on that one! I'm afraid you haven't given enough thought to the EXTREME lengths that criminals will go to elude Law Enforcement. Depending upon the duties an officer is performing, particularly undercover/plainclothes-type work, someone with criminal intent can gain a significant amount of intel simply by observing an officers comings and goings. If I know Officer "Friendly" is going for a bike ride on Tuesday; then that may be a more favorable time for to conduct any illegal activity. I've always found it rather....amusing... that nobody ever questions my motives when I'm giving CPR or helping you find your lost child. I don't think any of us in Law Enforcement are asking for a special "Thank You" cookie, but I/we would, at least, appreciate your trust. Contrary to growing opinion, We ARE the good guys, after all. Whoa...before you get the wrong idea... I'm from a law enforcement family, have many friends in law enforcement and have a healthy respect for the law (nearly became an officer myself)... As was mentioned after my post...if they used civilian means to get this information, then that is 100% acceptable and, as mentioned, anyone can do it. However, if he used department equipment, it is most certainly a violation of procedure unless there is cause. Not only would it be a violation of policy, it could result in the agency losing its right to use the system and at the extreme end, could be a violation of law. Of course, the laws in Canada (where I assume the OP lives) may be different. and I thought her location was a line from the Immigrant Song by Zepplin |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() aquagirl - 2012-06-22 12:05 PM People. Lighten up.
Peace out........
Seriously, plus anyone can do a simple DL search these days. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jford2309 - 2012-06-22 1:51 PM I run people all the time to check to see if there are outstanding warrants for them on a public site. It's not a big deal that he looked to see if she was "convicted drug dealer" to me. IMO he was flirting with you In the course of your duties, and I'm sure your running name/permit checks based on other things... a complaint, loitering, littering, whatever. Not just hey I met someone new let me run them and see what I get on the return. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() So I am I the only one wondering if the cop does rolling stop signs? |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Left Brain - 2012-06-22 10:03 AM In 25 years I've never done that. If I found out one of the guys/gals who works for me did that they'd be back in a uniform, or worse. For those of you who think it's ok, you have NO IDEA how much information on people we have access to. Frankly, it's scary. No kidding. I think this is one of those rare scenarios that unite both the Ayn Rand right-wing libertarians and the aging-hippie-question-authority leftist libertarians (like me) by its creepy government overreach quotient. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() tcovert - 2012-06-22 2:27 PM No kidding. I think this is one of those rare scenarios that unite both the Ayn Rand right-wing libertarians and the aging-hippie-question-authority leftist libertarians (like me) by its creepy government overreach quotient.
And here come the government haters/conspiracy theorists Edited by flashpoint145 2012-06-22 2:56 PM |
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![]() aquagirl - 2012-06-22 12:27 PM I just posted this story because I thought it was worth a giggle or two. As I said before, I am very easy going, and did not at all feel offended or violated. I have the utmost respect for cops and what they do...........
I certainly did not mean to set off a firestorm.
Hey Helen, good to see you are out having fun. Everyone can tell from your pictures you 25
Ok time to climb into my black helicopter and go sneaking around |
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![]() tcovert - 2012-06-22 2:27 PM Left Brain - 2012-06-22 10:03 AM In 25 years I've never done that. If I found out one of the guys/gals who works for me did that they'd be back in a uniform, or worse. For those of you who think it's ok, you have NO IDEA how much information on people we have access to. Frankly, it's scary. No kidding. I think this is one of those rare scenarios that unite both the Ayn Rand right-wing libertarians and the aging-hippie-question-authority leftist libertarians (like me) by its creepy government overreach quotient. Ayn Rand...makes me want to listen to 2112 on todays run, great suggestion, thanks |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() abqtj - 2012-06-22 11:11 AM aquagirl - 2012-06-22 12:05 PM People. Lighten up.
Peace out........
Seriously, plus anyone can do a simple DL search these days. Thanks that's scary they have my picture and everything. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() ckallpoints - 2012-06-22 2:17 PM abqtj - 2012-06-22 11:11 AM aquagirl - 2012-06-22 12:05 PM People. Lighten up.
Peace out........
Seriously, plus anyone can do a simple DL search these days. Thanks that's scary they have my picture and everything.
That's weird...It's my name, but my girlfriend's picture is posted??? Crazy DMV... |
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Good lord people, anyone can run a criminal history check based on a name. Check out www.idcourts.us Put in any name and find their record in the state of Idaho. You don't know what this cop did or didn't look up. "It's called jump to conclusions. It's a mat with different conclusions on it, that you jump to!" |
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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() DanielG - 2012-06-22 11:35 AM Nahhh, never happens! Especially never happens when a daughter of a really close friend starts dating. Not once, never. HEHEHEHEHEHE, good to see you play by the rules..... I would be doing a back ground check... ![]() |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() JasenGuy - 2012-06-22 2:19 PM ckallpoints - 2012-06-22 2:17 PM abqtj - 2012-06-22 11:11 AM aquagirl - 2012-06-22 12:05 PM People. Lighten up.
Peace out........
Seriously, plus anyone can do a simple DL search these days. Thanks that's scary they have my picture and everything.
That's weird...It's my name, but my girlfriend's picture is posted??? Crazy DMV... Somehow, they had my ex - wife's picture on my license. I will be contacting the DMV tomorrow! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mll1605 - 2012-06-22 3:13 PM So I am I the only one wondering if the cop does rolling stop signs? No, that was my first thought as well. I regularly ride with 2-3 sheriff's deputies and yes, they do roll stop signs and lights when we are the only ones there and do not trigger a light change. As for the background check, I have no problem with it. Don't break the law and you have nothing to hide. And if you have broken the law and been caught and convicted, then you obviously have a problem with laws and authority so I would expect you to have an issue with someone checking your background. |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm sure cops do do this. After all lots of people break the rules at their jobs. But I'm curious if anyone would feel any different if someone you rode with looked up your medical records. Maybe just to see if you had any communicable diseases they should watch out for. My guess is most people would be appalled by someone doing that. But doctors and nurses save more lives than cops do. Law enforcement officers do deserve our respect, but they are not above the law. Even though I have nothing to hide I would never consent to a search of my person without a warrant. I think this cop violated the law in a pretty basic way and not for any very good reason. He violated common courtesy by discussing your age without you bringing it up. I think we should demand even more integrity from law enforcement. They should act in a way that is worthy of the respect we give them. |
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