Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread (Page 29)

Not when it's done properly.

After Tri season was over I went into cyclo-cross season and that kept my cycling sharp with low volume/high intensity riding. I also been running consistently and like 6 weeks ago I started my general prep for LP;, that is working lots on my limiters, general fitness and body composition via sport specific nutrition to get back to my racing weight. I am working at increasing my cycling power threshold via hard riding on little riding per week plus running often building to run every day. Speed is not important at the moment, just logging minutes/miles running! Swim is on hold due to shoulder injury but that will come over the next few months. I am also doing sport specific strenght training (core, hills, plyos, drills) and I will switch to specific LP training sometime around late Feb early March.

what?!??!?!??!!??!?!?!!?

j/k.....lets not get on that topic in a heated fashion.....


on a serious note Jorge, how do you come to what is your ideal race weight?  we had a pretty heated discussion within my tri-team on what it is exactly

it is cool it works for you but I know very little pros tapering that much. The Sutton squad is famous for getting into racing with very short tapering (1 week or less). Also, using training models such as Philip Skiba RaceDay you can see this very clear by keeping a training log and letting the model base on yor actual #s and current fitness level suggest your optimal taper schedule.

Ask your coach how/where does the 3 week taper "tradition" started; once you get know the history as to why it became famous you might agree why it makes little sense, not to mention physiologically speaking makes even less...

It's not a "tradition", I could care less about Sutton, and we are not pro's. If you want to send people out to do 100 mile rides 2 weeks before their race, knock yourself out. We'll talk after you do it for yourself...

I agree the number of days is very athlete dependent, some need more, some less.

Edited by bryancd 2009-12-30 5:20 PM

Wow! That's....enlightening. Do an Ironman because YOU want to or do one because it's GOOD for your business, but either way, don't whine about it! This is a no crying thread, and those are tears! Whaaaaa!! No one listens to me because I have never done an Ironman! Whaaaaa!

Forget my times, Jorge. This isn't about me, it's about you. It's your day, not mine. As a caoch, i know you would say the same to your athletes.

Edited by bryancd 2009-12-30 5:59 PM

That was a joke in reference to a response you made earlier on this thread, I guess the sarcasm was so subtle it got missed. Anyway, no tears, no whining, no excuses from me. Trust me, I have my personal reasons to do an IM though the smack talk is just a plus and keeps the motivation flowing but you still are the crazy uncle . At the end of the day as long as my athletes buy into all my blabbing and are achieving their goals I am good. I'll stop the sarcasm and jokes because it is hard to convey it properly online. Those that have met me will know I am in fact smiling while participating in this thread as I don't take online formus too serious. It is all good and fun.

What the hell do i know, I've only been doing this 4 years!

Exactly. So shut your trap. If more people would listen to me around here, half the podiums would be BTers. Oh yeah, and Jorge...can you remind me again if 95% FT means my 95% of my 20 min pace or my 60 min pace?

Yes! Let's have some beers!

Swishyskirt and I volunteered in the women's transition area last year (not that you'd be able to volunteer in the women's transition area, but...). We got to see the swim start, last swimmer out, pros come in, last man across the finish line at midnight.  I think men feel demasculinized in the men's TA though...too much nekkidness??  I'd say go for the bike area...I told my husband to sign up to volunteer with taking bikes or handing them off.  ENJOY!!

I'm going to follow the 20 week BT plan in 10 weeks! =p  Until then...I'm working on getting some strength back in this bod to prepare for the onslaught of training.

I'm stealing your idea!

Right, a taper should be part of "The Plan" based on your overall training load, recovery required, ect., as Jorge said. I was just challenging the notion that 3 weeks is somehow not optimal or correct, nothing is correct, it is all athlete dependent. And now we have a good review of tapering int he thread, although 6 months too early for all of you.

Or you can do what I do...Just let Jorge tell me what to do*.  :P

*while asking questions all the time to challenge/question why we are doing things for clarity.

Ha!  x2 to the entire post.  especially the *!  Well said, Dan. 

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I ended 2009 with a craptastic TWO mile run. Here's to a happy and healthy New Year and having a fun, fast race in LP in July!!!

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