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Romney messed up big-time in Ohio.  The double whammy of stating he was fine with Detroit going bankrupt, along with the ad stating Jeep was shipping jobs to China...bad moves.

Conservatives should be very happy.  This Obama victory will be like jet fuel for Limbaugh and Hannity.  Heck, they may even be the early front-runners for the GOP '16 ticket.  

One more happy moment...Akin and Mourdock, bye bye.  Rape is rape.  No part of it is "a gift from God."

lol on the limbaugh/hannity.

Akin and Mourdock were both idiots and they paid a dear political price for it.  I also think it really helped Obama shape the entire Republican party with their whacked out statements.

I do agree that there is a silver lining, but it's not quite what you're thinking.  The D's pushed all the bad stuff in Obamacare until after the election.  Well, it's now after the election. 

Also, if Obama doesn't turn the economy around the next 4 years the Dems will have a tough go in 2016.

...unless the GOP adopt the strategy they're discussing on Fox and shift even further to the right. I strongly maintain that as much as people want fiscal restraint and a focus on the economy, they aren't willing to sacrifice on the social issues. As long as the GOP keeps hammering their pro-life, anti-same-sex marriage agenda and making it central to their platform, they're going to have a hard time coaxing younger and more moderate voters to their side.

I know many conservative circles that embrace the "we need to go further to the right" approach.  I've also thought that the massive debt, spending and such would force people to open their eyes and take a more fiscal conservative approach, but I don't think that's a winning strategy.  Look at Europe, they're in worlds more financial trouble than we are and the masses want more entitlements, not less.

I've said it before. I was a Republican from Reagan through Bush's second term. I still believe in fiscal conservatism. I just cannot endorse their current social platform.

I don't see how same-sex marriage diminishes the value of a heterosexual marriage. If two adults love each other and are willing to care for and commit to each each other, more power to them.

Abortion does not have to be an all or none issue. First trimester, up to the mother. After that, medical necessity only. And provide birth control counseling so it becomes rare. And a path for adoption if that is the decision.

And so on...

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mrbbrad - 2012-11-07 8:32 AM I'm surprised the sun even bothered to come up this morning.

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2012-11-07 9:08 AM
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National and local elections are over and the chips have fallen where they may.  Fine.  I can live with that.   Gays can marry, some folks can smoke pot, you don't have to show ID to vote, some folks will continue to get free stuff.   Knock yourself out.  Now....what the heck is the plan to get out of this financial mess?....I haven't heard one.  And taxing the rich ain't the answer.
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Birkierunner - 2012-11-07 9:08 AM National and local elections are over and the chips have fallen where they may.  Fine.  I can live with that.   Gays can marry, some folks can smoke pot, you don't have to show ID to vote, some folks will continue to get free stuff.   Knock yourself out.  Now....what the heck is the plan to get out of this financial mess?....I haven't heard one.  And taxing the rich ain't the answer.

I read on a conservative blog that Obama planned all along for the fiscal cliff to hit.  That's his budget plan.

It has to be true because of where I read it. 

2012-11-07 9:12 AM
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Birkierunner - 2012-11-07 10:08 AMNational and local elections are over and the chips have fallen where they may.  Fine.  I can live with that.   Gays can marry, some folks can smoke pot, you don't have to show ID to vote, some folks will continue to get free stuff.   Knock yourself out.  Now....what the heck is the plan to get out of this financial mess?....I haven't heard one.  And taxing the rich ain't the answer.
I'm sure it's in here somewhere....

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/07/us/politics/transcript-of-president-obamas-election-night-speech.html?pagewanted=all. .

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2012-11-07 9:37 AM
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Birkierunner - 2012-11-07 9:08 AM National and local elections are over and the chips have fallen where they may.  Fine.  I can live with that.   Gays can marry, some folks can smoke pot, you don't have to show ID to vote, some folks will continue to get free stuff.   Knock yourself out.  Now....what the heck is the plan to get out of this financial mess?....I haven't heard one.  And taxing the rich ain't the answer.

I read on a conservative blog that Obama planned all along for the fiscal cliff to hit.  That's his budget plan.

It has to be true because of where I read it. 

I read that on some not so conservative sites as well. It triggers an automatic Tax hike, so he gets what the Rep's are so adamant about not giving him, just by doing nothing. 



2012-11-07 10:45 AM
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Birkierunner - 2012-11-07 9:08 AM National and local elections are over and the chips have fallen where they may.  Fine.  I can live with that.   Gays can marry, some folks can smoke pot, you don't have to show ID to vote, some folks will continue to get free stuff.   Knock yourself out.  Now....what the heck is the plan to get out of this financial mess?....I haven't heard one.  And taxing the rich ain't the answer.

I read on a conservative blog that Obama planned all along for the fiscal cliff to hit.  That's his budget plan.

It has to be true because of where I read it. 

I read that on some not so conservative sites as well. It triggers an automatic Tax hike, so he gets what the Rep's are so adamant about not giving him, just by doing nothing. 

He also gets what he promised not to do... tax hike on everyone. He also get huge cuts to programs he said he was not going to cut. That does not solve his problem of giving more free stuff to everyone and having the rich pay for it.

2012-11-07 10:50 AM
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jmk-brooklyn - 2012-11-06 11:34 PM Still no concession from Romney? What's his play? Can he really think that it's not over?

I think it does tell us that he genuinely thought he was going to win in a big way.  I'm betting he's in shock at this point.

He does need to come out pretty soon because he's not helping anyone by dragging it out.

I guess. I assumed that his campaign saying that he hadn't written a concession speech was just posturing, but I guess not. I feel badly for his supporters at his HQ.

He didn't come out a minute too soon or too late, and his speech was about as gracious as anyone could hope for.  His vision is better than Obama's....always has been.

I'm happy for you guys, the next four years should be stellar. Laughing

I thought his concession speech was pretty good. McCain's last time I thought was much better but this was a different race and a different place for the country. I do think he could have come out sooner, just to allow more people to see him give his speech. Same thing with President Obama's speech - I had to go to bed before I could hear him.

2012-11-07 10:50 AM
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Birkierunner - 2012-11-07 9:08 AM National and local elections are over and the chips have fallen where they may.  Fine.  I can live with that.   Gays can marry, some folks can smoke pot, you don't have to show ID to vote, some folks will continue to get free stuff.   Knock yourself out.  Now....what the heck is the plan to get out of this financial mess?....I haven't heard one.  And taxing the rich ain't the answer.

I read on a conservative blog that Obama planned all along for the fiscal cliff to hit.  That's his budget plan.

It has to be true because of where I read it. 

I read that on some not so conservative sites as well. It triggers an automatic Tax hike, so he gets what the Rep's are so adamant about not giving him, just by doing nothing. 

He also gets what he promised not to do... tax hike on everyone. He also get huge cuts to programs he said he was not going to cut. That does not solve his problem of giving more free stuff to everyone and having the rich pay for it.

He's no up for re-election anymore, so why does he care if he does what he said he wouldn't?

2012-11-07 10:53 AM
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GomesBolt - 2012-11-07 2:40 AM Biggest winners were the hardcore MSNBC type liberals, unions (except coal), and China.

Biggest losers were evangelicals (because like Powerman said, unless Republicans abandon social issues, there will be no getting younger voters), and Coal/emitters.

 

You already can't build a coal plant in this country. The EPA has already issued regs on limiting CO2. Now that the election is over, those will certainly go into effect. But the regs were worked on the last couple of years since courts ruled the EPA can limit CO2. So they wrote the regs to say ANY new plant will have to emit half the CO2 they do now... so even if I permitted a plant last year, when it came on line this year, and the EPA regs go into effect, it had to meet th new regs. There are no coal plants permitted right now. You have to have carbon capture equipment to meet the regs and that does not really exist right now. That magic number of "half" is still enough for natural gas plants... so you can build those if you want... but there is no telling if those too will be regulated lower in the future.

But have no fear... China adds a 300MW plant every week, so coal workers will still have a job and the export sector will profit.

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I'm moving to Canada.


2012-11-07 11:16 AM
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mrbbrad - 2012-11-07 9:32 AM I'm surprised the sun even bothered to come up this morning.

That's because the sun is a socialist, giving away free light and energy to lazy planets that just hang out in orbit around it, contributing nothing to the fusion, but just taking. 

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mrbbrad - 2012-11-07 9:32 AM I'm surprised the sun even bothered to come up this morning.

That's because the sun is a socialist, giving away free light and energy to lazy planets that just hang out in orbit around it, contributing nothing to the fusion, but just taking. 

Actually the planets are being held captive by the sun and are therefore surfs to its will, absorbing it's toxic emissions and protecting it from rogue asteroids.

2012-11-07 11:20 AM
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I"m trying to figure out why anyone is happy with this.....or would be unable to sleep they were so happy....or would be celebrating anything about this.  I woke up this morning and the political climate/makeup in this country is virtually unchanged....which means more of the same.  Who's happy about that? 

I have to say that none of it bothers me much, it is what it is.....but geez.....happy over more of the same?  I'm not tracking that very well.

2012-11-07 12:11 PM
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Just got time to check.....the markets are certainly happy with the election.
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tuwood - 2012-11-07 9:41 AM
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Romney messed up big-time in Ohio.  The double whammy of stating he was fine with Detroit going bankrupt, along with the ad stating Jeep was shipping jobs to China...bad moves.

Conservatives should be very happy.  This Obama victory will be like jet fuel for Limbaugh and Hannity.  Heck, they may even be the early front-runners for the GOP '16 ticket.  

One more happy moment...Akin and Mourdock, bye bye.  Rape is rape.  No part of it is "a gift from God."

lol on the limbaugh/hannity.

Akin and Mourdock were both idiots and they paid a dear political price for it.  I also think it really helped Obama shape the entire Republican party with their whacked out statements.

I do agree that there is a silver lining, but it's not quite what you're thinking.  The D's pushed all the bad stuff in Obamacare until after the election.  Well, it's now after the election. 

Also, if Obama doesn't turn the economy around the next 4 years the Dems will have a tough go in 2016.

...unless the GOP adopt the strategy they're discussing on Fox and shift even further to the right. I strongly maintain that as much as people want fiscal restraint and a focus on the economy, they aren't willing to sacrifice on the social issues. As long as the GOP keeps hammering their pro-life, anti-same-sex marriage agenda and making it central to their platform, they're going to have a hard time coaxing younger and more moderate voters to their side.

I know many conservative circles that embrace the "we need to go further to the right" approach.  I've also thought that the massive debt, spending and such would force people to open their eyes and take a more fiscal conservative approach, but I don't think that's a winning strategy.  Look at Europe, they're in worlds more financial trouble than we are and the masses want more entitlements, not less.

I've said it before. I was a Republican from Reagan through Bush's second term. I still believe in fiscal conservatism. I just cannot endorse their current social platform.

I don't see how same-sex marriage diminishes the value of a heterosexual marriage. If two adults love each other and are willing to care for and commit to each each other, more power to them.

Abortion does not have to be an all or none issue. First trimester, up to the mother. After that, medical necessity only. And provide birth control counseling so it becomes rare. And a path for adoption if that is the decision.

And so on...

BrianRunsPhilly 2016 - I'm in

I'm unelectable. I inhaled. And stuff

Plus I like my current gig. You don't ever see Obama posting here during the work day, do you?



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some big hysteria going on - just try to keep some of the passion alive for politics - dont be a Q4YR voter. If it makes you feel better you can blame/credit me as an Ohio voter

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2012-11-07 12:55 PM
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Left Brain - 2012-11-07 12:11 PM Just got time to check.....the markets are certainly happy with the election.

From here - http://www.truthfulpolitics.com/http:/truthfulpolitics.com/comments/impact-of-political-party-and-stock-market-performance/

Jeremy Siegel discusses a similar point:

“And historically, the initial reaction of the market to a Republican presidential victory confirms this thesis. During the last 120 years, the Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 0.7% on the day following a Republican victory in the presidential elections while it has fallen 0.5% the day after a Democrat captured the White House[.]  However, a closer look tells a far different story. Over that same 120 year period, the average annual stock market return has totaled only 8.25% under Republican rule, while it has returned 10.85% with Democrats in power.”

To read the full article, click on Which Party Is Better for Stocks?

ETA: second link is broken.  Can't find the original article anymore.  Still searching.



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2012-11-07 1:09 PM
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The stock market may be down but the gun market is up.  I am watching prices of ARs go up every 20 mins.  And they are selling out of stock quickly.
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TriRSquared - 2012-11-07 1:09 PM The stock market may be down but the gun market is up.  I am watching prices of ARs go up every 20 mins.  And they are selling out of stock quickly.

The gun market has been up the entire Obama presidency.  Seriously.  This is nothing new.

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TriRSquared - 2012-11-07 1:09 PM The stock market may be down but the gun market is up.  I am watching prices of ARs go up every 20 mins.  And they are selling out of stock quickly.

The gun market has been up the entire Obama presidency.  Seriously.  This is nothing new.

Oh I know. Ruger is up 600% over 4 years ago. S&W like 260%.  But I have been watching prices on a popular gun site that changes them every 20 mins.  This AM they started creeping up and up and up.  And the stock is depleting faster than I've ever seen it.

I expected it.  Just amazing to see it happen in real time. And of course I had to help stimulate the economy by adding a few sales



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TriRSquared - 2012-11-07 1:09 PM The stock market may be down but the gun market is up.  I am watching prices of ARs go up every 20 mins.  And they are selling out of stock quickly.

The gun market has been up the entire Obama presidency.  Seriously.  This is nothing new.

Oh I know. Ruger is up 600% over 4 years ago. S&W like 260%.  But I have been watching prices on a popular gun site that changes them every 20 mins.  This AM they started creeping up and up and up.  And the stock is depleting faster than I've ever seen it.

I expected it.  Just amazing to see it happen in real time. And of course I had to help stimulate the economy by adding a few sales

Which I really can't understand.  Individuals keep claiming "Obama is coming for our guns" and he has done absolutel NOTHING to show that he is.  Talk about paranoia. (And I don't mean you)

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TriRSquared - 2012-11-07 1:09 PM The stock market may be down but the gun market is up.  I am watching prices of ARs go up every 20 mins.  And they are selling out of stock quickly.

The gun market has been up the entire Obama presidency.  Seriously.  This is nothing new.

Oh I know. Ruger is up 600% over 4 years ago. S&W like 260%.  But I have been watching prices on a popular gun site that changes them every 20 mins.  This AM they started creeping up and up and up.  And the stock is depleting faster than I've ever seen it.

I expected it.  Just amazing to see it happen in real time. And of course I had to help stimulate the economy by adding a few sales

Which I really can't understand.  Individuals keep claiming "Obama is coming for our guns" and he has done absolutel NOTHING to show that he is.  Talk about paranoia. (And I don't mean you)

This happens every time a Democrat is elected president.  You are right he has done nothing in his first term to make anyone worry. 

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crowny2 - 2012-11-07 2:16 PM

TriRSquared - 2012-11-07 1:09 PM The stock market may be down but the gun market is up.  I am watching prices of ARs go up every 20 mins.  And they are selling out of stock quickly.

The gun market has been up the entire Obama presidency.  Seriously.  This is nothing new.

Oh I know. Ruger is up 600% over 4 years ago. S&W like 260%.  But I have been watching prices on a popular gun site that changes them every 20 mins.  This AM they started creeping up and up and up.  And the stock is depleting faster than I've ever seen it.

I expected it.  Just amazing to see it happen in real time. And of course I had to help stimulate the economy by adding a few sales

Which I really can't understand.  Individuals keep claiming "Obama is coming for our guns" and he has done absolutel NOTHING to show that he is.  Talk about paranoia. (And I don't mean you)



It’s not paranoia, it’s marketing.
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jmk-brooklyn - 2012-11-07 2:56 PM
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TriRSquared - 2012-11-07 1:44 PM
crowny2 - 2012-11-07 2:16 PM

TriRSquared - 2012-11-07 1:09 PM The stock market may be down but the gun market is up.  I am watching prices of ARs go up every 20 mins.  And they are selling out of stock quickly.

The gun market has been up the entire Obama presidency.  Seriously.  This is nothing new.

Oh I know. Ruger is up 600% over 4 years ago. S&W like 260%.  But I have been watching prices on a popular gun site that changes them every 20 mins.  This AM they started creeping up and up and up.  And the stock is depleting faster than I've ever seen it.

I expected it.  Just amazing to see it happen in real time. And of course I had to help stimulate the economy by adding a few sales

Which I really can't understand.  Individuals keep claiming "Obama is coming for our guns" and he has done absolutel NOTHING to show that he is.  Talk about paranoia. (And I don't mean you)

It’s not paranoia, it’s marketing.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get you.

And it's not the government many are afraid of... it's the populous.

http://twitchy.com/2012/11/02/as-election-day-nears-obama-supporters-step-up-riot-threats/

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