Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread (Page 3)
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey gang. Glad to see someone started this thing so early! I am in for 2011. Wife and I volunteered this year and I signed up on site Monday morning. I've had this on the radar for over 3 years and am very focused on crossing the finish line. 1. Is this your first IM? Yes 2. Have you done LP before? See answer #1 ![]() 3. What are your goals for the 2011 race? (Changed the year... you did mean 2011, right??) Train hard and smart Reach the start line healthy and confident Cross the finish line Cross in sub 12 hour Sub 11 would be awesome 4.How/Why did you select the Lake Placid Race? Closest to home (6 hour drive) It's one of the "biggies" Like climbing Love that part of the country 5. Do you have any specific questions that you wish addressed about LP (the race, training etc) Not right now I find it very interesting that some people are hesitant to set goals at this time. My belief is that there is power in committing to a goal. Once one gets behind somethig it is out in front of them, pulling them along. Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth, the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one commits oneself, then providence moves too. All sorts of things occur to help one that would never otherwise have occurred. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favour all manner of unforeseen incidents and meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way. W. H. Murray (1913-1996) |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() KathyG - 2010-09-16 8:29 AM wstchstrTriathlete - 2010-09-16 8:13 AM Is anyone doing a Half Ironman leading up to Placid? If so, how far out? Seemed like a lot of folks last year did one in early June @ about the 6-7 week out mark: Rev3 Quassy, Mooseman, Eagleman. I have Mooseman on my radar again. I have a rolled over entry from Patriot HIM due to knee scope this year which is about 4 or 5 weeks out from LP. I may opt to do aquabike instead to allow solid trainng or skip it. It is a bit close to do a 70.3 as it is key training time. Early June or sooner is probably better fit to race a 70.3. In '08 when I did LP I opted to not race much before the IM just due timing training was more a priority than racing. I have a roll over for HarryMan due to an Achilles injury. That was in late May in 2010. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Prep race - Rev3 Quassy. Think it's June 5th. Train right through. Eagleman had been on my radar for some time but it's too out of the way for me and Rev3 is probably a better course for me to practice restraint on the hills. Not going to do any short stuff before it I don't think. Gearing - I have a 50/34 on the P2. On my roadie I have a 53/39 and it was weird going to the P2 compact at first, but now I'm used to it and definitely going that route for Placid. I swapped the stock 12/25 cassette for an 11/23 just because I always felt like I was missing a gear. For LP, I'd probably just go back to a 12/25. I'm going to get up to the course and ride it with my group to check it out. I may end up with a 27 if necessary, but going to hold off until I check it out. Not sure I'll need it. Training - Specific plan won't start for a bit, but I'm going to focus on a couple of limiters for a couple of months I think. I talked to a couple of coaches so far and am evaluating the route I want to go. I've read (skimmed) "Going Long", "Be Iron Fit" and some of the "Endurance Nation" stuff as well to try and get a handle on basic approaches before taking a coaches advice blindly. Just don't want to totally wing it anymore like I've been doing. I won't really take any time off but maybe just some down weeks if I feel like I need it or I get a coach and they make me. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I found the link I mentioned that discusses gearing for IMLP. Key is to have proper gearing for your ability on the bike. So using similar gearing as someone did who rides .5- 1-2 hours faster or slower than you do probably isn't wise. For me I did 7:52 bike at LP in 2008 with FTP around 190. I had compact with 11-28 and spent to much time in the 34-28. For IM Canada I changed gearing to a 10 speed 11-34 cassette and put a long cage MTB derailuer on which allowed me to spin up the mountain climbs and keep my power more even. Most all of you guys will be significantly faster than me on the bike so what works for me isn't applicable. But thinking about gearing is good for everyone. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mrbbrad - 2010-09-16 7:34 AM Hey gang. Glad to see someone started this thing so early! I am in for 2011. Wife and I volunteered this year and I signed up on site Monday morning. I've had this on the radar for over 3 years and am very focused on crossing the finish line. 1. Is this your first IM? Yes 2. Have you done LP before? See answer #1 ![]() 3. What are your goals for the 2011 race? (Changed the year... you did mean 2011, right??) Train hard and smart Reach the start line healthy and confident Cross the finish line Cross in sub 12 hour Sub 11 would be awesome 4.How/Why did you select the Lake Placid Race? Closest to home (6 hour drive) It's one of the "biggies" Like climbing Love that part of the country 5. Do you have any specific questions that you wish addressed about LP (the race, training etc) Not right now I find it very interesting that some people are hesitant to set goals at this time. My belief is that there is power in committing to a goal. Once one gets behind somethig it is out in front of them, pulling them along. Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth, the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one commits oneself, then providence moves too. All sorts of things occur to help one that would never otherwise have occurred. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favour all manner of unforeseen incidents and meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way. W. H. Murray (1913-1996)There is power in commiting to a goal...however, for some people there is also pressure from the outside to meet that goal. Also, I've never trained for an IM before and have no idea at this point in time if the time that I am currently setting for myself is out to lunch in reference to my ability, specifically for the bike/run. So I will wait until I have finished some key training days before I define my time goal. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I also plan on switching my cassette to a 27-28 and currently ride a 12-25. I'll be doing a half out here somewhere in western Canada or NW USA...I have my eye on a few. I'm also planning on running some training camp weekends for myself in the Rockies if I can manage. I'm only about 3hrs away. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I agree Melissa (Melindy?)....(either?)...
Cool idea about the rockies, the Northwest is an area I've never been and deeply want to experience! Edited by cusetri 2010-09-16 11:05 AM |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Love the Schleck jersey. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Seeing this thread was perfect timing to give me a new long-term focus after IMWI! 1. Is this your first IM? 3rd. (Redman '09, IMWI '10) 2. Have you done LP before? I was too scared of the bike course to even attempt to register last year before I'd completed my first IM. 3. What are your goals for the 2010 race? Enjoy the whole experience Get back down to race weight (over the fall/winter-about 10 to 15 lbs.) Stay injury-free (Serious injury before my 1st IM, but injury-free before 2nd. I'd like to keep that up!) Improve at least some in each discipline Time Goal: under 13:43:14 4.How/Why did you select the Lake Placid Race? The race venue fascinates me (I've never been East.) and I'm a teacher so I'll be off work the month of the race. I wanted a challenge! 5. Do you have any specific questions that you wish addressed about LP (the race, training etc) How does the bike compare to IMWI? People said IMWI was "hard", but I thought it was "fun". I don't want an excuse to slack off on my training, but I lost a lot of sleep this summer before I had ridden the WI course and realized it wasn't nearly so bad. If it really is significantly harder, I want to know now so I can be prepared! |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() cusetri - 2010-09-16 9:31 AM Is it the racing for recovery half?doing the American TTT in Ohio with a bunch of people. I'm going to cut out a lot of the short races this year...they are fun, but take away from weekend's where I can train steady..... |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() carlwithac - 2010-09-16 1:43 PM cusetri - 2010-09-16 9:31 AM Is it the racing for recovery half?doing the American TTT in Ohio with a bunch of people. I'm going to cut out a lot of the short races this year...they are fun, but take away from weekend's where I can train steady..... yeah!.....its like 1 hour from my MIL house....also, my wifes broter's ILaws like in Monroe, so if we coudl score a place to stay there it woudl be nice! |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() cusetri - 2010-09-16 10:04 AM I agree Melissa (Melindy?)....(either?)...
Cool idea about the rockies, the Northwest is an area I've never been and deeply want to experience! Melissa or Melindy..either or. Melindy is a nickname from the Ghoulies in the Challenge forum area. Haha. I will respond to both...and Melissa is apparently a common name on here. The Rockies are right at my doorstep...(more or less...3hr drive to Jasper National Park)...so I figure I should take advantage of this fact. HILLS HILLS HILLS...I've never been over to your area...IMLP will be my first time! (Well..I've been to eastern Canada...just not the states!) Alberta, BC, Montana, Washington and Oregon are awesome areas to visit! ![]() |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kaburns1214 - 2010-09-16 10:27 AM Love the Schleck jersey. Haha. Thanks. Oh Andy. I don't know what I am going to do with myself next July...between the Tour and IMLP...I'm just going to be a super pumped, crazy person...haha |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Has everyone booked hotels, etc yet? I have ended up in Saranac Lake (10min away from LP) because it seemed everyone else got on the organisation train before me! |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mndymond - 2010-09-16 5:27 PM Has everyone booked hotels, etc yet? I have ended up in Saranac Lake (10min away from LP) because it seemed everyone else got on the organisation train before me! At the residence inn in LP. |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm renting a house in LP along with other family members. It's expensive but so was getting multiple hotel rooms. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() We haven't looked or booked any place. I'm not staying in a dumpy hotel this year like we did in '08. Cost of lodging is one of the big down sides of Lake Placid. Any tips share them. We want to stay someplace with a kitchen. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm staying a Gauthiers Saranac Lake Inn...I have a microwave and fridge. Looks pretty respectable and about $199/night...which isn't bad considering the only other options I could find at the time were like 500+...It seems to be getting down to slim pickings. I emailed a bunch of places in Lake Placid and they are already putting names down on the waiting list for the weekend...and a few are not taking reservations until about Feb. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() cornerofdivision - 2010-09-16 6:57 PM I'm renting a house in LP along with other family members. It's expensive but so was getting multiple hotel rooms. Doing the same thing. The house is right off the bike and run course towards the top of Mirror Lake. For an event like this, I am making sure my family (there will be 12 of us! made sense $$$ wise) get front row seats and easy acommodations. This past year when volunteering, I stayed at The Pines, located HERE. 4 night min stay, $200 a night. Its at the other end of the main drag, so a bit of a walk the swim start, but you are close to the restaurants @ that end of town. I would stay there again. Edit: No kitchen in rooms. Edited by wstchstrTriathlete 2010-09-16 6:25 PM |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Other thing is we will have 4 or 5 of our kids with us who will be 12-22 so we need space and the kitchen is a must as I'm not eating out for 4-5 days. Maybe I should look for a place but not motivated to do so yet. |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 1. First Ironman Will be my second, doing Beach2Battleship in November 2. Have you done LP before? No 3. Goals? Finish strong and have fun 4.Why LP? Fairly close to home, and supposed to be a beautiful location 5. Questions? Not yet but will have some before long Staying at Mirror Lake, can't beleive price but first time so why not be close to everything. One less thing to worry about. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm staying at Lake Placid Summit Hotel, on the west side of Mirror Lake. Just a short walk from the olympic oval. After being at the race this year I realized the advantages of having a hotel within quick walking distance of the venue. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Dream Chaser - 2010-09-16 9:03 AM TankBoy - 2010-09-15 4:19 PM Dream Chaser - great to hear you are signed up for the race again this year! I signed up for IMLP online the monday after the race, and that night began reading last year's thread, starting at the beginning and reading all the way through - I only finished it yesterday morning before starting this new thread. It was really great to follow you, Kathy, cusetri, PennState, and everyone else that were regulars, even though I was reading it after the fact. In a weird way it really was like following a television miniseries along - and the way you just disappeared from the thread at the very end was VERY mysterious! No last minute freak-out, no race report, no nothing! It was really a season ending cliff-hanger! In all seriousness, glad you are OK and back in the hunt. For those of us (me) that have proven to be injury prone, I really look forward to hearing from you over the course of the next year about lessons learned, etc, if you don't mind sharing. You clearly put in the work last year - I am sure your rotten luck could happened to any of us at any time if we are not careful, or perhaps even if we are. You read that whole thread, God Bless you! The overall support from fellow BT'ers was amazing. The entire LP experience as a whole was amazing. When I got home I spoke with my physical therapist and an sports orthopedist and my tendinitis, we believe, was caused by improper technique. Not to throw anyone under the bus, but a particular person in the Triathlon Industry told me to keep my knees in and almost have them brushing the top tube. By keeping your knees slanted inward you become more aerodynamic, and your center of gravity is moved toward the center of the bike, effectively giving you more power. I searched online, and sure enough 'knees toward the center' is a practiced TT Position and recommended by many people in the cycling world. Unfortunately for me, perhaps due to a body irregularity?, keeping my left leg in tweaked my ligmament and pinned it against my outer knee bone forcing it to rub. So what I learned from this injury experience is *I* need to keep my legs straight up and down when I pedal. I've since stayed off the bike from July 23rd and on the 38th day of no biking, I went for a 20-mile ride and all is well. I've since ridden 25 miles just this weekend and, Thank God, the pain has not returned. Also, in retrospect, during my Winter Base Cycling on the Drainer and throughout the Spring on outside rides, I built my volume carefully but I rarely put forth an EASY effort. I was also putting forth a Moderate to HARD effort. This time around I will make certain to include more EASY Rides. Perhaps this is me being overcautious. I'm also going to purchase a road bike and put in a lot of training time on the roadie. I think consistently hammering out multiple 100-mile months of volume on a TT bike in a TT Position wreaked havoc on my lower bike. And I was refit three or four times last Spring to try and dial in the best position for me, but *for me* I think I need to log more time in a less aggresive position and then slowly increase my Aero TT Position time as we get closer to the Race. I've also noticed many pro triathletes Like Macca and Ben Hoffman log a ton of time on there Road Bikes, so there must be something to this approach. We'll see. Okay, I'm done rambling about my experience. I look forward to sharing the Journey of this time-around with everyone on this thread. I'm gonna call mscotthall as the official Dark Horse! Orriginally this winter I planned to just maintain a modest base of 7 to 8 hours a week, then 20 weeks out (1st week in March) I planned to follow the BT Intermediate Ironman Plan. However, since I was not able to race LP, and since my cycling injury strangely did not affect my running whatsoever, I've been Marathon training and feel I have a realistic chance of qualifying for the Boston at my October (Steamtown) or Novemeber (Philly) Marathon. If I do qualify, then I am going to take December off (by 'off' I mean maintain a 5 to 7 hour week base of EZ SBR) the start Training again in January with a 60% focus on Running, 20% Bike, 20% Swim ... and once I run and recover Boston, start a 12-week Ironman Program the first week of May. Lastly, I will signing up for Rev3 Quassy, June 11th. Rev3 runs an unbelievable event (see my RR). I met Craig Alexander and Miranda Carfrae. My kids played at the Quassy Amusement park for free Saturday and Sunday. And the Quassy Bike and Run cross is absolutely BRUTAL. An excellent prep for LP Dream Chaser - just. wow. Thanks for sharing what must have been a rough and conflicted time. As a first timer I came to BT to simply learn more about important aspects of IM training, like focus, pace, patience, nutrition, etc. Your experience provides so much more than that; it should remind us all us all of the strength of character that defines the best of this sport. I hope I can live up to the example you have set - like cusetri said - I am already pumped up - and we still have 10 1/2 months to go! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() drdking - 2010-09-15 11:14 PM I end my tri season this Sunday with Syracuse 70.3. drdking - Good luck this weekend! |
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